Not By Works

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Peter, I wasn't even replying to you here..I was answering Jimbo. I think you need some glasses so you can see better. :)
PeterJens said:
blue - I think if you want to layer labels and then say I said this and not that, it is not clear.

No one is born holy, righteous, blameless.
Christ can make us holy, blameless and righteous.

When we walk with Jesus we are holy, blameless and righteous.

Now we can be defiled by sin, by what comes out of our hearts.
But we are purified and can work towards purifying ourselves through what we
dwell on and encourage in our lives.

Now this appears to be what Paul is saying. Do you agree or disagree with this?

Now I meaning firstly, in a biblical sense, is this what Paul is saying and then
secondly on an experiential sense. I think we all know it is hard to believe we
are holy, blameless and righteous, but if God has washed us clean who are we to
deny this.
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JIMBO43 said:
how do you know your Not God so quit your lies and false accusations geeze you truly are wild..
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Your quote applies unto yourself pal......now....again oh deceptive one....if your going to quote me...make the whole quote or be found in false....man and you wonder why I call you a cake taker.....

THE WHOLE QUOTE

A. I called you on failing to use context and verbiage to make a valid point
B. God did not inspire Amazing Grace.....
C. I did not defile and Holy Song of GOD....they are found in the PSALMS....AMAZING GRACE is not a PSALM

You know....the biggest problem found in man is his inability to simply admit error....

ADAM....no not my fault was EVE's.....EVE....NO not my FAULT I was tricked by the serpent......

Just admit it and be biblical Jim.....end of story bro
 
JIMBO43 said:
not sure billy Because if we need to ask him that we also need to hope we will recieve salvation but seeing as some people who have liked your post dont a agree with that then how can your statement be true ? to the people who liked your post... ?
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Hi Jimbob.

i said thank you God for saving me, aorist term, saved and not I hope I am saved.
Thats why those who agree me liked my post.

You have bought hope into this and tried to use it fit your belief
 
Jim, we keep telling you that if you're saved, you already have salvation. You don't need to hope for what you already have. :) You are only deluding yourself if you think you do need to hope for daily salvation. Salvation isn't given daily. It's a once and for all time gift. :)
 
blue_ladybug said:
Jim, we keep telling you that if you're saved, you already have salvation. You don't need to hope for what you already have. :) You are only deluding yourself if you think you do need to hope for daily salvation. Salvation isn't given daily. It's a once and for all time gift. :)
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AMEN.....a current, eternal possession culminating in a glorified celestial body of power.....
 
blue_ladybug said:

Peter, I wasn't even replying to you here..I was answering Jimbo. I think you need some glasses so you can see better. :)
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Sorry I thought this was a discussion forum. lol.

Obviously you do not like answering questions, or is it when you don't
have an answer, I wonder :)
 
ANOTHER STANZA from a song by the "workers for" and "cake takers"

On that bright and cloudy morning when the dead in Christ shall rise
The workers for missing out will weep, wail, and cry
They missed the boat and failed the test because in their works they plied
Now in eternity they gnash their teeth for in their works they tried

yeah I know ;)

GALATIANS 1 and 3<---faith plus works = a false gospel with no power to save and double cursed
 
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BillG said:
Hi Jimbob.

i said thank you God for saving me, aorist term, saved and not I hope I am saved.
Thats why those who agree me liked my post.

You have bought hope into this and tried to use it fit your belief
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AMEN......a confident expectation of something guaranteed......saved now, tomorrow and into the future
 
I have answered your question, more than once. I believe we can only strive towards being holy, sinless and righteous..But we won't attain those statuses in THIS lifetime. If we did, we would be immortals in a mortal world, living holy, sinless, righteous lives.. :)

PeterJens said:
Sorry I thought this was a discussion forum. lol.

Obviously you do not like answering questions, or is it when you don't
have an answer, I wonder :)
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Hoping for salvation when you already have it, is like me hoping to get some chocolate when I already have some.. lol :o
 
blue_ladybug said:
I have answered your question, more than once. I believe we can only strive towards being holy, sinless and righteous..But we won't attain those statuses in THIS lifetime. If we did, we would be immortals in a mortal world, living holy, sinless, righteous lives.. :)
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Come on blue. That is science fiction. And you know the only 2 issues are, communion
with God and learning how to love from the heart. Now you do both of these things.
Now does a baby say, I will never be able to walk, talk, read, write, cook etc. or just
does the next thing in front of it and sees where it goes.

We can theorise about where we might get to or not, but limit God, not our job.
So sister, I hope I can call you this, Jesus loves you, the cross shows how deeply,
now you know it, how are you going to express it? It is not any more complex than
that, other than the hangups we still carry with us from our past.

Some peoples past here go very deep and dark, because they have not let Jesus
deal with it. Do you know know dark Saul had gone? He was a seriously screwed up
guy, but the Lord healed him and made him our brother, an example of burning for
Christ with an emotional passion that took some of the weakest people and made them
precious works in the Fathers house.
 
TimeTravler said:
Is it also true that their unrighteous works
had nothing to do with them
ending up in hell?
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Obviously.......people end up in hell because they reject Jesus...he is the propitiation for the sins of the WHOLE WORLD.......

He that BELIEVES on the SON is having everlasting life!
 
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