Not By Works
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its really nice i make it fresh,,, but ya dont want to drink to much cause it comes out the other end a bit to quick... just like your bad doctrins......
Your doctrins are so bad that if i digested them to much like almond milk i would be spewing bittnerness out the rear end which i was beginning to,,,(that is resenting the truth of God. im just so glad someone showed me the light...... God only knowS what i would be like by now if he hadnt.
Do you have something to add to this thread other than verbal attacks that have no value...
More lies, twisted and embellished falsehoods from you Peter.....How does that fit your works for salvation doctrine....?
You obviously cannot read or just skip over what we actually say and believe....
as many time as you embellish, twist or flat misrepresent what we believe and say....it is amazing that you have any time to post anything seeing how you need to be on your knees repenting non stop
Yes i do..........ive noticed the more i speak The truth the more bitter people get..
Nice try, but no ceeeegar.......
try again....how about this one......
NOT by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy has he SAVED US...
A. Salvation is not based upon works
B. It is based upon MERCY
C. It is in past tense-->HAS SAVED US
whether you like to hear it or not mate all this doctrin does is mock good works... thats why so many are offended,,, and how long are you going to keep on doing that ?
I could care less who the truth offends...MATE....I quoted TITUS 3:5 pal....embrace it or reject it.....if you want to trust yourself have a ball....
The truth is these are not wolves, but often just people who know the conviction of God
over sin, but not how to walk in victory, joy and love.
In pilgrims progress this is viewed as the slough of despondency. It can be addictive, like
queen Victoria never overcoming the grief over the loss of her husband.
But these are not wolves or lost people, they are just trapped without a way out, unless
they discover the victory of Christ and love on their throne.
mate it sounds like your quoting tight us the way you post scripture is shameful,
You post scripture and hide behind it... because your denying the truth..now you have a ball and a cigar,, cause you dont win a cigar of me..
He that believeth the Son is having everlasting life......
that life began the moment one believed and is a current possession....a present continuing result from a past completed action....
that life began the moment one believed and is a current possession....a present continuing result from a past completed action....
mate it sounds like your quoting tight us the way you post scripture is shameful,
You post scripture and hide behind it... because your denying the truth..now you have a ball and a cigar,, cause you dont win a cigar of me..
I post scripture and hide behind it...thank....absolutely......scripture trumps false doctrine any and every day.....
For by grace are you saved through faith and that not of yourselves, it is the GIFT of GOD, not of works lest any man should boast....
Keep trusting yourself and your works....me...I trust the word and what it states.......
dc - lies, twisted embellishments - please tell me what are the lies.
I am a simple bible believing christian following evangelical charismatic teaching.
Yet I am evil, the worst ever, sending people to hell. Now this is not an exaguration
of the type of condemnation I get, but I am still unclear why.
The only issues appears to be future sin forgiven, or the idea I have unbelief so am
not a believer.
But if I believe in Christ for the forgiveness of my sins etc. I am saved by any definition
of evangelical theology, and filled with the Holy Spirit. To make me unsaved you have
to go to something very fundamental, or you are just a false accuser like the enemy.
And why make me into an enemy when I should be your brother in the Lord.
Now we are allowed to disown people because of unconfessed sin.
So how do you justify this division you are creating, even to yourself?
If you cannot honestly define it, then how do you expect to convert me to your
point of view?
If your point of view is actually open acceptance of Christ without change, this
is a retrograde belief system if in Christ I walk in love and victory.
So please tell me how am I wrong, lying and distorting anything? Because this
is just how it appears to me, so in all honesty, please bring light to the situation
so that I can see.
If all you can say is just slander, please stop, it is just abuse and makes your
position empty and pointless.
You do understand English right?
I will deny your lack of contextual understanding.....and application!
Saving belief that is rooted in Christ endures to the end and is not some shallow, temporary belief that has no root, produces no fruit and withers away.
No context no malice,, do you deny that those who keep the faith to the end will be saved..yes or no...
Go read your quote....I fire on you because you constantly mouth anyone who disagrees with you....so...how about take your own advice......tell me how these following statements by you add anything of value to this thread....You consistently make false, misleading statements and then when called on it spin it into another twisted misrepresentation and falsehood!
Originally Posted by PeterJens
These are blind guidesThey claim superficially they believe the same
If you do not have a deep sin problem, then you are not part of being honest and the group.
So they identify themselves not by righteousness or faith, but by sin and failure.
Yet this group identify themselves with the exact opposite as if sin is somehow a badge
of honour and not shame.
rather about their experience and failure in their faith and
walk,
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I believe ... you lying scum, twisting and distorting everything to create you evil agenda.
You believe ... you do not understand anything about what we believe you liar, twisting etc.
Now if this is the language things descend to, this is just emotional venting.
Without content nothing can get resolved, but then that is the point, winning by
abuse and not admitting anything because then the truth might come out.
I met this tactic with muslims, but it never worked. All belief systems have to
justify themselves or they will die in the end. And as believers we are commited
to "the truth" But if you abandon this you abandon Christ and become a sign post
of heretics who will get forgotton and rejected.
You believe ... you do not understand anything about what we believe you liar, twisting etc.
Now if this is the language things descend to, this is just emotional venting.
Without content nothing can get resolved, but then that is the point, winning by
abuse and not admitting anything because then the truth might come out.
I met this tactic with muslims, but it never worked. All belief systems have to
justify themselves or they will die in the end. And as believers we are commited
to "the truth" But if you abandon this you abandon Christ and become a sign post
of heretics who will get forgotton and rejected.