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I’m too tired to argue today.
It’s been a long busy day for me.
Blessings to all in Christ.
It’s been a long busy day for me.
Blessings to all in Christ.
Why argue...just embrace the truth we are laying bare, come on line with the correct message and be right with God!
Be not removed from the simplicity found in Christ!
Many will say in that day, have we not done blah, blah, blah in your name.....the word many = plenteous in number....and the reason is obvious....
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Amen!
I was just typing the same thing but you stated it better so I stopped .... I really like the phrase "laying bare"
“He who endures to the end will be saved.” When will you believe Him?[/QUOTE]
I posted concerning the scripture about enduring to the end. Did you skip over?
Slain from the foundation of the world. I would think this is spiritual. Before creation. A truth difficult to understand but is stated so is truth. Much like eternal security. Not being the work of man, but of God.
3:7 But what things were gain to me, those I counted loss for Christ.
Php 3:8 Yea doubtless, and I count all things but loss for the excellency of the knowledge of Christ Jesus my Lord: for whom I have suffered the loss of all things, and do count them but dung, that I may win Christ,
Php 3:9 And be found in him, not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by faith:
Php 3:10 That I may know him, and the power of his resurrection, and the fellowship of his sufferings, being made conformable unto his death;
Php 3:11 If by any means I might attain unto the resurrection of the dead.
Straining Toward the Goal
Php 3:12 Not as though I had already attained, either were already perfect: but I follow after, if that I may apprehend that for which also I am apprehended of Christ Jesus.
Php 3:13 Brethren, I count not myself to have apprehended: but this one thing I do, forgetting those things which are behind, and reaching forth unto those things which are before,
Php 3:14 I press toward the mark for the prize of the high calling of God in Christ Jesus.
Php 3:15 Let us therefore, as many as be perfect, be thus minded: and if in any thing ye be otherwise minded, God shall reveal even this unto you.
Php 3:16 Nevertheless, whereto we have already attained, let us walk by the same rule, let us mind the same thing.
Php 3:17 Brethren, be followers together of me, and mark them which walk so as ye have us for an ensample.
Php 3:18 (For many walk, of whom I have told you often, and now tell you even weeping, that they are the enemies of the cross of Christ:
Php 3:19 Whose end is destruction, whose God is their belly, and whose glory is in their shame, who mind earthly things.)
Php 3:20 For our conversation is in heaven; from whence also we look for the Saviour, the Lord Jesus Christ:
Php 3:21 Who shall change our vile body, that it may be fashioned like unto his glorious body, according to the working whereby he is able even to subdue all things unto himself.
OSAS Believers KNOW HIM, intimately, personally, and HE IS IN US AND WE ARE IN JESUS CHRIST's SPIRITUAL BODY, and all of that is LITERALLY, not symbolism. AND you only CLAIM to KNOW what OSAS IS REALLY ABOUT, when we see how little you about OSAS TRUE BELIEFS.
You know Dot, I was tormented by thoughts of unworthiness until the Lord spoke to me.
He said, “you aren’t. (Worthy). But, I have made you worthy.”
Is called rest.
If I am not leaning on my own understanding, what am I leaning on?
His word.
You seriously felt the need to make an issue of this?
well, apparently some are reading the word without the grace of God. There’s the understanding.
When you are born again,for me,God led me to scripture.....I can’t understand the word in my carnal mind...when I was a non believer .only in the Spirit..when I was saved....even then,I don’t understand everything.
I have even written in the Spirit on Facebook.....God speaking through me in my writing.
I posted concerning the scripture about enduring to the end. Did you skip over?[/QUOTE]
Enduring to the end for me means.....we are already saved once we become born again....the reason we will endure to the end is...because we have the power of the Holy Spirit in us,keeping us enduring to the end.
I have been really stressed just lately in a certain area.....then The penny drops......take your eyes and beliefs away from yourself and place them on Jesus,put your trust and belief in him.....then my peace and security return.
I have to constantly do this....because being honest....I am still learning to trust and rely on God.........
You need the Holy Spirit grace,leading,through scripture....you also have to be born again in order for that to happen.
Only the Holy Spirit can lead you through scripture.
You do not even understand what we TEACH, and BELIEVE, or how we DISCIPLE to who are receptive to the GOSPEL.
Enduring to the end for me means.....we are already saved once we become born again....the reason we will endure to the end is...because we have the power of the Holy Spirit in us,keeping us enduring to the end.
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One way to enhance your understanding of what biblical passages meant is to ask yourself, "The audience that was listening to those words when Jesus spoke to them, how would they have understood the meaning of those words?"
That is what context means. The Jews that were hearing those words from Jesus, how would they have interpreted the meaning?
One way to enhance your understanding of what biblical passages meant is to ask yourself, "The audience that was listening to those words when Jesus spoke to them, how would they have understood the meaning of those words?"
That is what context means. The Jews that were hearing those words from Jesus, how would they have interpreted the meaning?[/QUOTE]
No...I don’t ask myself anything....I ask God.......he leads me into all truth..not by me“asking myself “
Sounds like your relying on self!
In that case, anyone can say anything, by claiming "God led me to that truth".