Not By Works

  • Christian Chat is a moderated online Christian community allowing Christians around the world to fellowship with each other in real time chat via webcam, voice, and text, with the Christian Chat app. You can also start or participate in a Bible-based discussion here in the Christian Chat Forums, where members can also share with each other their own videos, pictures, or favorite Christian music.

    If you are a Christian and need encouragement and fellowship, we're here for you! If you are not a Christian but interested in knowing more about Jesus our Lord, you're also welcome! Want to know what the Bible says, and how you can apply it to your life? Join us!

    To make new Christian friends now around the world, click here to join Christian Chat.
PS said:
Show me where I say "you must maintain your salvation."
Click to expand...

Your stupid games will not work....evertime you stand against eternal security you peddle a self maintained lie pal.....and you can keep playing red x game all you want....you will be red x'ed for eternity!!

So which is it...Catholic, Luthern or Anglican....you peddle a version of the above three regardless....why are you afraid to admit your religious persuasion....
 
  • Like
Reactions: Lightskin and EleventhHour
OSAS is false doctrine.

And you... He has now reconciled in His body of flesh by His death, in order to present you holy and blameless and irreproachable before Him, PROVIDED THAT YOU CONTINUE IN THE FAITH..

-Col 21
 
Maynard said:
OSAS is false doctrine.

And you... He has now reconciled in His body of flesh by His death, in order to present you holy and blameless and irreproachable before Him, PROVIDED THAT YOU CONTINUE IN THE FAITH..

-Col 21
Click to expand...
Maynard, get lost with your Catholic dogma....Jesus saves eternally pal......
 
You jokers and clowns that conflate verses that deal with ongoing sanctification and salvation to peddle a losable salvation will pay the price eternally.....your conflated dogma has no power to save!
 
PS said:
Scripture, please.
Click to expand...
google it yourself.....I quoted three direct quotes before and you rejected them and then red x'ed them.....the bible is replete with the truth in question that you deny and reject man.....and in all honesty...you had better start opening your eyes to the truth and quit being obstinate against it......

The Lord has made the WICKED for the day of evil

The wicked go astray FROM THE WOMB

MANY ARE CALLED but FEW CHOSEN

Many is NOT All And FEW IS EVEN LESS OF A NUMBER

GOD RAISED PHARAOH UP for the express purpose of making his powrt known and EVEN HARDENED HIS HEART

I WILL have mercy ON WHOM I CHOOSE TO HAVE MERCY AND WHOM I WILL I HARDENETH!

I know you hate my guts and oppose everything I write, but what I say is truth regardless of your red x's and rejection or opposition!
 
  • Like
Reactions: Lightskin
dcontroversal said:
It does not get any plainer..........Our righteous works have ZERO to do with Salvation!
New American Standard Bible
He saved us, not on the basis of deeds which we have done in righteousness, but according to His mercy, by the washing of regeneration and renewing by the Holy Spirit,
King James Bible
Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;
Click to expand...
That's true. That's how we come to Him. But I think of how 1 John ends, "Dear children, keep yourselves from idols."

"Those who cling to worthless idols forfeit the grace that could be theirs." Jonah 2:8 My favorite verse from Jonah, which he prayed from the belly of the fish.

We see in the New Testament that greed is idolatry, and indeed anything that comes before God in our hearts is idolatry. Common idols are children, personal desires, smart phones, possessions and money. Reminds me of the parable of the sower and the danger for the believer is being the seed which was sown among thorns - I have always liked the Mark account which states, "the worries of this life, the deceitfulness of wealth and the desires for other things come in and choke the Word, making it unfruitful." This has been my concern for my own life. The "plant" springing from the seed God has sown remains alive! And desires for things other than the Word? Whoa. I don't think I know of anyone like that. Narrow the gate and difficult the Way indeed! Few are they that find it. It's like when Jesus speaks of the widow at the beginning of Luke 18 and says that God's chosen ones cry out to Him day and night and then He wonders aloud, "when the Son of man comes, will He find faith on earth?"

Read Psalm 119. That has to be us. Those things have to be what our hearts individually say. "I rise before dawn and cry for help; for I have put my hope in your Word." I literally do that. Another verse states that the psalmist pants for God's Word! That sound like seed sown on good soil. Elsewhere, it says that he has chosen meditation on God's Word over sleep. Wow. Sounds like a heart free from idols.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Judges1318
EleventhHour said:
Going to work but not for my salvation...that is a done deal ....how blessed we are, those that have accepted Jesus' offer of eternal life and knowing we are secure in Him.
Click to expand...
Amen sister! Praise the Lord! :) - (Psalm 37:28; John 10:27-28; Romans 8:30; Ephesians 1:13-14; 4:30; Philippians 1:6; Jude 1:1 etc..) Going through life on that emotional ride of fear and bondage to IN-security is no way to live the Christian life. :cautious:

72524-05415b3ec77e8e37fc85460e28a36dbb.jpg
 
  • Like
Reactions: dcontroversal
Whispered said:
Yet, what I said was what I meant to say.
Dispensationalists Dispensationalism is also called, Christian Zionism, Separation Theology/Theologians, Rapture cultists, and Scofieldism. For the record.
Click to expand...
i dont subscribe to the pre-trib rapture. but i dont say its cultist really because so many people i know are pre-trib rapture believers and they are really good on everything else doctrinally. i'd say.
 
  • Like
Reactions: dcontroversal
mailmandan said:
Amen sister! Praise the Lord! :) - (Psalm 37:28; John 10:27-28; Romans 8:30; Ephesians 1:13-14; 4:30; Philippians 1:6; Jude 1:1 etc..) Going through life on that emotional ride of fear and bondage to IN-security is no way to live the Christian life. :cautious:
Click to expand...
i can also say constant fear is no good i hated insecurity. perfect love casts out fear.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Whispered, dcontroversal, Lightskin and 1 other person
You must log in or register to reply here.
Top Bottom
Back