Can I just state this...... WRONG!
Are you there yet? Now be honest?
You may not be aware this is a quote from
church Nazarene
It is pointless interacting if you just say "wrong" are you there yet? God bless.....
Can I just state this...... WRONG!
Are you there yet? Now be honest?
I think you have gone beyond Wesleyanism and the Nazarene Church.
I have to give you a star for recognising the theology I am supporting is Wesleyian, namely Nazarene church.
But slowly progress is being made, and some at least, understand this is more than just a personal position.
Mind you the condescension could be avoided if people did some homework.
If you have not gone beyond the teachings of this sect, then I will state I never realized how deep the error is this teaching.
You may not be aware this is a quote from
church Nazarene
It is pointless interacting if you just say "wrong" are you there yet? God bless.....
Hi Stones,
Do you understand the difference between getting alongside people and the witchcraft idea of cursing
someone?
Are you saying when someone has a fatal illness we cannot talk about it, and when we meet our Lord?
Are you ready to meet our Saviour?
Hi vco,
We are to be like Jesus.
Listen, I tell you a mystery: We will not all sleep, but we will all be changed--
in a flash, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed.
1 Cor 15:51-52
And we eagerly await a Savior from there, the Lord Jesus Christ,
who, by the power that enables him to bring everything under his control, will transform our lowly bodies so that they will be like his glorious body
Phil 3:20-21
Being like Jesus is not being God.
It is to have His mind, His heart, His desires and to have a body like His glorious body.
And I am an evangelical christian. Maybe you do not know about our final goal in Christ
properly. I suggest you study a bit more, and answer the question of how do we go from
where we are to this place in heaven?
And you just did it again. How do you know his illness is fatal. You don't!
Pray for him, encourage him. That's coming alongside of him. Like the Comforter!
You cast doubt on all of us.
Hi vco,
We are to be like Jesus.
Listen, I tell you a mystery: We will not all sleep, but we will all be changed--
in a flash, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed.
1 Cor 15:51-52
And we eagerly await a Savior from there, the Lord Jesus Christ,
who, by the power that enables him to bring everything under his control, will transform our lowly bodies so that they will be like his glorious body
Phil 3:20-21
Being like Jesus is not being God.
It is to have His mind, His heart, His desires and to have a body like His glorious body.
And I am an evangelical christian. Maybe you do not know about our final goal in Christ
properly. I suggest you study a bit more, and answer the question of how do we go from
where we are to this place in heaven?
You may call yourself evangelical, but YOUR ATTITUDE of not wanting to Bow or Prostrate yourself before GOD, it NON-EVANGELICAL.
1 John 2:6 (HCSB)
6 The one who says he remains in Him should walk just as He walked.
2 Kings 17:36 (NJB)
36 You are to bow down and offer sacrifice only to Yahweh who brought you out of Egypt with great power and outstretched arm.
WE EVANGELICALS BELIEVE YAHWEH IS ALSO JESUS CHRIST, . . . . . . . DO YOU?
Are we a broken cistern or a beautiful vessel worthy of the King?
Some want to believe God the creator sees us and is happy to leave us alone, broken, empty and defeated.
But Gods desire is this
just as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her
to make her holy, cleansing her by the washing with water through the word,
and to present her to himself as a radiant church, without stain or wrinkle or any other blemish, but holy and blameless.
Eph 5:25-27
God does not leave us but transforms, heals and remakes us.
FollowHisSteps was previously banned and known as PeterJens. Here he is with his sugar coated flowery sweet counterfeit gospel, in full bloom; read it, know it, and run from it. He knows his gospel is not true but is only the imaginations of his sugar coated mind.
Dear forum, believe the Gospel of Jesus Christ, do not believe the counterfeit gospel of FollowHisSteps.
God bless!
Wonderful passage! Kinda negates the perfect holiness in this life thing though.
Right here you, and Scripture admit that WE WILL BE LIKE JESUS PERFECTLY WHEN OUR BODIES ARE TRANSFORMED.
This is an obvious admission that we CAN'T be perfect in mind and soul while we still dwell in our dead Earthly bodies.
I also attend a Nazarene Church. I didn't specifically seek it out, and I have some differences with some of the stuff they believe, but the Holy Spirit is CERTAINLY Present there!
I believe for whatever His purposes are HE sent me there, and I love the people.
Hello TT,FollowHisSteps was previously banned and known as PeterJens. Here he is with his sugar coated flowery sweet counterfeit gospel, in full bloom; read it, know it, and run from it. He knows his gospel is not true but is only the imaginations of his sugar coated mind.
Dear forum, believe the Gospel of Jesus Christ, do not believe the counterfeit gospel of FollowHisSteps.
God bless!
AMEN!!! Brother!!!I think fruits of the spirit depend upon the measure of the spirit we receive just like gifts of the spirit. Do all speak in tongues? do all receive discernment or dream, dreams? No! As far as works go do all do missionary work, feed and clothe the homeless? Do all do prison ministry or tend to the sick and dying? No again, but let's get back to basic Christianity 101 To those who receive much, much is expected but those who receive less, less is expected. I think works are a measure of spirituality and should be done willingly out of gratitude with thanks giving in our hearts. Nothing more nothing less.
Do we ask questions at Bible study that some may be too embarrassed to ask? Do we show up early to make coffee or stay late to clean up or fold chairs? Do we donate GOOD clothes we would not be embarrassed to wear. Do we share from the heart out of love? I don't consider myself a qualified fruit inspector. Rather an ad hoc nut inspector, trying to determine the legitimate from the crazy. Love came to me immediately upon receiving the Holy Spirit but the rest took study, education, practice and work. I say 'I' a lot because regarding personal revelation I cannot speak for others. It's easy to say the sinners prayer but putting the talk to the walk is a different matter.
Most authorities likely would think John the Baptist nuts but those who repented and got baptized got the message. Repent being the key word. Baptism of the Holy Spirit and having a true spiritual experience is far better than taking a bath and reading a book. It's undeniable and motivational. Ask the Lord for it. It changes lives and attitudes immediately. Good works will be the result. You will joyfully to do them and they will be a rewarding experience.
just to add- pay attention to what one does, not just what one says.
speaking of walking like Jesus, walking toward perfection, etc... while at the same time calling members old, bitter, blind, deaf and dumb.
you will know a tree by it's fruit.
PeterJens, you have no humility and anyone who follows in your steps is doomed, never have I seen a counterfeit gospel so deceptive than yours.A small note - a well developed theology and position followed by millions of people cannot
be dismissed or mocked meaningfully in a few words. That is just a joke.
So if you want to be more than a mocker, approach the subject with the maturity it deserves.
PeterJens, you have no humility and anyone who follows in your steps is doomed, never have I seen a counterfeit gospel so deceptive than yours.
Repent and believe the Gospel of Jesus Christ.
Traditions. My tradition is one of challenge and checking, how are we with the Lord.
Let us turn and humble ourselves and praise Him, spend time with Him.
In your tradition, this is probably interpreted as condemnation and causing people to doubt.
Stones, the subject of certain types of illness are best not discussed here.
There are many things that can be miss-understood and even knowledge held by others.
God bless you.