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stonesoffire said:
Ugly? Lol...you are something else Meggido.
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He took it that way the same as EG earlier took it that I was yelling at him.
Since you weren't trying to be ugly (that's something we all have to examine at times and think back to if we were mad or haughty or impatient at the time) then let him know you weren't intending to be ugly. :)
 
Another thing that I see, is the whosoevers. We who have been predestined are the leaves of the tree of life which is sprouts in the Greek. That is the forming of His divine image within and we are the Bride and Spirit combo that offers living water to any who will listen. God is so awesome and wants all to come to a Him. Whosoever will come!
 
Rosemaryx said:
Hi EG...His prize is to be in heaven, face to face with our Lord Jesus Christ...To be in the presence of God and all heavenly things, and to hear those beautiful words " Well done my good and faithful servant " :) ...xox...
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I agree. :)
I do not want different hats or crowns to wear. That's like cracker jack trinkets to me. I want to be with Him. There is no reward that I could desire other than that. I don't even care where I sit as long as I am there, in His Presence. :) I don't even care if I have a nosebleed seat!
 
Stunnedbygrace said:
He took it that way the same as EG earlier took it that I was yelling at him.
Since you weren't trying to be ugly (that's something we all have to examine at times and think back to if we were mad or haughty or impatient at the time) then let him know you weren't intending to be ugly. :)
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Well that's interesting. I guess I've been blinded too. Still don't agree with things he is saying and attitudes. :)
 
stonesoffire said:
Well that's interesting. I guess I've been blinded too. Still don't agree with things he is saying and attitudes. :)
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No, you're not blinded. He just really felt that way. Even though you didn't have ugly intent. I've had people think I was angry at them when I was in deep thought and didn't hear what they said because I was so focused in my mind. I wasn't angry at all, just preoccupied! So I had to just explain to them that I wasn't mad at all but was just caught up in thought and so literally didn't hear them!
 
Magenta said:
A few years ago (in 2011), my daughter and I were going through some of my belongings, and I came across a calendar from the year 2000... and I said, oh! It is only from last year, and then I looked up at her, and she was frozen in place, like her brain just stopped working at the fact of me dropping ten years just like that :eek:

I think that was also when we found the calendar and accompanying diary I kept of her time in the hospital as a preemie, for she was born at twenty four weeks gestation weighing under a pound and a half, and I wrote her weight gain and loss and other stats down every day, how much she ate, the day she first opened her eyes, the day she extubated herself and never went back on the ventilator, the many times she was "bagged," the first time I was ever allowed to hold her, and the first time I ever heard her cry, man, I will never forget that, walking into the special care nursery and hearing a baby that I had never heard before, the hair on my arms raised! It was like I knew it was her from across the room, many months after she had been born, though I had ever heard that sound before. She has those mementos now :)
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Beautiful! We all have had beautiful and sorrowful stories. Am glad you shared this publicly Magenta. Gives reality to just profiles on a website.
 
loveme1 said:
I push nothing but share the New Testament. It teaches plenty to those willing to receive. I believe the Messiah over you always and forever.

You may not see, hear or perceive but by the Power of GOD many love the Truth and receive it willingly.


But may it be that one day soon you start believing.
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Sounds to me like you think you don't need anyone else for you have it all. We are all of HIS body. Members of the same Lord. Whether we agree or not, we all believe in following the Head.
 
TMS said:
Are we justified by Christs imputed righteousness or His imparted Righteousness?
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Have you ever looked at all the scriptures together that states we are justified? Even by our words. Justified or condemned. Not to hell, but in the day of the judgement seat of Christ. Gain or lose rewards.
 
If you're in Christ you have no self-righteousness, you died with Him when He became sin. You now live in Christ who became sin so that we could become His righteousness.
 
Fran is banned!!! oh my! poor lady! i cant believe this is true… what did she do to deserve this?she's my friend!!! dear, oh, dear
 
And when He comes, He will bring His reward with Him...
I always took that to mean that His bride was His reward...
And that He was our reward.

It never occurred to me that my reward was anything but Him. But I know others think there is something more. And it's okay that they see it that way. :)
 
Stunnedbygrace said:
And when He comes, He will bring His reward with Him...
I always took that to mean that His bride was His reward...
And that He was our reward.

It never occurred to me that my reward was anything but Him. But I know others think there is something more. And it's okay that they see it that way. :)
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I thought that was to rule with Him. Never really studied though.
 
Meggido said:
bro...the man is saying you can stop believing and walk away from it...he has never stated you can lose it and neither have I....

Nobody loses their salvation it is a gift from God...I can stop believing and the gift is still there...I did not lose the gift... I stopped believing in it and just kept it up in top shelf of the closet with the rest of the ugly sweaters or ties I never wear anymore....

I am offering a real olive branch here bro....
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so you believe in eternal security? That once a person is savd by true repentance and true faith in th living God, who will NEVER let you down, but only promised see to continue to grace your faith, and promised to continue to sanctify you until the day of Christ, and give you absolutely no reason t stop having faith is saved forever, that nothing h or she does from hat point forward will change that fact?

Thank you, and know I am just stating my view, not attacking anyone, I am asking honest questions here.
 
PHart said:
'Never' believed is not in the text. The one who believes is not condemned, while the one who doesn't believe is condemned.
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The fact that the one who does not believe is in a state of "condemnation" already (again perfect tense) has in its meaning, that it was a state that always was. There is no condition in the statement itself which would have any possibility that the belief or condemnation was in a different state at any time in th past.

Thus applying the word "Never" fits the equation.

basic math, or basic language skills says that if a person was always in a state, they were "never" in another state.

Again, remove the NOSAS glasses, and maybe you will see what jesus actually said.

(I realize using Nosas or osas glasses is pretty much a strawman, but you started it, so please do not be offended)
 
PHart said:
[/B][/COLOR]The promise is conditioned on you continuing to believe and trust in him to finish what he started.

Are you saying he will finish it even if you stop believing (H-grace doctrine)? Or are you saying the true believer can never stop believing?
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No the promisis nhave no conditions, they are statements of promises which God calls as fact,

it says says he has perfected forever those being sanctifi d
it says he who began a God work in you WIL complete it until the day of Christ
it says he will lose no one
it says he will never let us go,


Again, when are you going to trust God, and his promises and not your own ability? To continue in faith, and more importantly, when are your you going to realize God promise to complete or finish your faith by continually growing it, not give you a reason to lose faith? To me that is humanising God!
 
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