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Cako53
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Because Joesph Smith was not a true prophet! We are to watch out for false teachers. Not listen to their lies. The book of mormon is not the truth. It is a book of lies.
You are allowed your own opinion.
11th Article of Faith
We claim the privilege of worshiping Almighty God according to the dictates of our own conscience, and allow all men the same privilege, let them worship how, where, or what they may.
Why can't you give that to them?
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Cako53
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I'm starting to worry about you. First you couldn't remember a sentence from a couple comments back. Now you can't even remember one sentence from one sentence back.
"11th Article of Faith
We claim the privilege of worshiping Almighty God according to the dictates of our own conscience, and allow all men the same privilege, let them worship how, where, or what they may.
Why can't you give that to them?"
Here I'll spell it out for you. Why can't you give them the same P R I V I L E G E they give you? Why can't you give them the P R I V I L E G E to let them worship how, where or what they may? Why go attack their faith?
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Cako53
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I'm starting to worry about you. You preach to me about love then clearly don't show it, hmmm. Hypocrite much? Okay, so how about I give someone else the privelage to kil people just because they don't mind if I kill people? Just because someone says you can do it doesn't make it right. We are to not conform to this world and its evils.
According to you, showing you love would be telling you what's wrong with you. If that's the case, then I don't show love to very many people. The LDS church is evil? You listed cut and paste reasons for why the LDS faith is evil and you refused to read any explanations I gave you. If you want to believe the LDS church is evil go right ahead.
There is a funny coincidence here. In the Book of Mormon the Lamanites constantly taught their children to hate the Nephites and told them how evil they were. You also are taught how evil the LDS are. Funny coincidence but I know you don't care because you think the Book of Mormon is of the devil and anything shown you is disregarded as being lies.
ALMA (Book of Mormon)
CHAPTER 20
13 And now when Lamoni had rehearsed unto him all these things, behold, to his astonishment, his father was angry with him, and said: Lamoni, thou art going to deliver these Nephites, who are sons of a liar. Behold, he robbed our fathers; and now his children are also come amongst us that they may, by their cunning and their lyings, deceive us, that they again may rob us of our property.
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Cako53
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I never said that's how you show love. That is a form of showing love, yes. Letting a borther or sister walk not in the light is deffinatly not love! If you think it is, you need a wake up. The reason I disregard what the book of Mormon says is because it goes against the word of God! Show to me how the book of Mormon does not go against the bible and how it is truth and I will gladly listen. But you have not been capable of doing that since the beginning.
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forgivenandloved
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I'm sorry I don't remember saying anything about hate. I think the spirit of being able to stand in what you believe is awesome
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Cako53
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I couldn't agree more!I'm sorry I don't remember saying anything about hate. I think the spirit of being able to stand in what you believe is awesome
Show you how the Book of Mormon does not go against the Bible? What do you think I've been doing? I've been listing you references from both the Bible and the Book of Mormon. I wouldn't expect you to know that though because you said you don't even read my posts.
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Cako53
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So you show the odd quotes that relate, okay. How about this. Where in the bible does it say that we will stand before Joesph Smith on judgement day?
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Searching4somethinglost
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Mute, some things to consider
1.you went way off topic from the begining
2.your defending an obviously corrupt cult.
3.why not try and actually answer one of Cakos questions instead of trying to avoid it.
4.why are you even in this forum, you're obviously not a teen.
5.and instead of trolling teens why don't you find something more constructive to do
1.you went way off topic from the begining
2.your defending an obviously corrupt cult.
3.why not try and actually answer one of Cakos questions instead of trying to avoid it.
4.why are you even in this forum, you're obviously not a teen.
5.and instead of trolling teens why don't you find something more constructive to do
The topic was "Mormon's shut down.". I already addressed everything in the video. This thread was created for the soul purpose of ripping on the LDS faith. This thread wasn't created out of love. This thread was only to persecute those who believe differently from you. You expect me to join in and agree with you?
Apparently a cult is anything that preaches love towards one another.
A better question would be why so many teens are taught to hate the LDS faith. I already answered virtually every question he asked and gave him places to find more answers to questions he may have. If you had read anything I said, then you would have noticed that.
If I saw kid's beating on an old lady or vandalizing someones home, do you think the correct thing to do would be to say "I'm not their age. I better not get involved." You're right I'm not a teen. Are you upset someone is telling you what you're doing is wrong? Would you like me to go so you can continue on with your hate?
Constructive like attacking another persons faith?
If I answer that question, will you cease calling them a cult and erase your thread? Will it change your opinion at all? Will you renounce what you've been saying towards the LDS? If you agree to that, I will answer your question. If you will not agree to that, then I will not answer your question. However, you don't need me to answer your question anyways. You have more than enough sources to go find that answer on your own in a matter of minutes.
I'd be lying if I said I didn't expect you to agree to that and then claim any answer I give you is not an answer. Either way, I'm curious as to what you will say.
I'm sorry I don't remember saying anything about hate. I think the spirit of being able to stand in what you believe is awesome
Where has anyone anyone stated what they believe? The only thing they've stated is what they believe is false about the LDS church.
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Cako53
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1. You deffinatly did not answer "vitually all my questions"
2. I do not hate the LDS faith, I hate lies. Although I can deffinatly see why you see the mix up between the two.
3. I would not like you to answer my question. I would like you to answer my questions. You have failed to answer any of them, and have just confirmed my knowledge that LDS is a cult, by not answering these. Jesus tells us that when we have the truth with us our enemies will be without words. Our adveraries will not be able to say a thing. Anyone who contradicts the word of God and lives in sin is an enemy of God. God hates sin.
2. I do not hate the LDS faith, I hate lies. Although I can deffinatly see why you see the mix up between the two.
3. I would not like you to answer my question. I would like you to answer my questions. You have failed to answer any of them, and have just confirmed my knowledge that LDS is a cult, by not answering these. Jesus tells us that when we have the truth with us our enemies will be without words. Our adveraries will not be able to say a thing. Anyone who contradicts the word of God and lives in sin is an enemy of God. God hates sin.
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forgivenandloved
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the video, obviously. the man knew what he believed and stood strong in it. You are being completely rude. What are you like 25 in an argument with a 15 year old (in which you are losing). I'm sure the looks real mature on your part right ?????
I addressed all claims in the first video which you presented. Did I not give you websites that contained all the answers to the 50 questions you keep pulling up repeatably? It's up to you to go read it. Do I have to spoon feed it to you?
I offered to answer the last question if you agreed to remove your thread and refute what you've said against the LDS faith. If you cease calling them brainwashed cultists, then I will answer the question. If you will not agree to that, then I will not answer the question.
Instead of reading the answers from the places I have given you, you ignore them. Instead of even trying to find the truth, you don't look for it. It would have been easy for you to find the answers to these questions on your own but you don't even try. You just continue to pull up questions from sites that you didn't think of yourself.
These are not your questions. These are questions you got off a website that have been used over and over and over and over and over. So I gave you a website that already addressed these questions. You refuse to look at answers but that doesn't stop you from cut and pasting the same questions again and claiming the LDS have no answers. If you wanted to find the answers, I showed you where to read them.
I like how you use Isaiah chapter 54 verse 17 to justify attacking the LDS church but you do not understand the context.
ISAIAH
CHAPTER 54
17 ¶ No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the Lord, and their righteousness is of me, saith the Lord.
The verse is in reference to the saints who defend the church of God from those who seek to destroy it. Christ is talking about the church and those who have gathered against it. He's talking about the persecution that the church will face. What you're doing to the Church is referenced in verse 15.
ISAIAH
CHAPTER 54
15 Behold, they shall surely gather together, but not by me: whosoever shall gather together against thee shall fall for thy sake.
I haven't said ANYTHING against your faith. Everything that has been said and done has been against the LDS faith. If anything, that scripture would be in support of me. This is a perfect example of perverting the scriptures to justify your actions.
If I was going to join a church, I would join the church that was most hated.
ST MATTHEW
CHAPTER 5
10 Blessed are they which are persecuted for righteousness’ sake: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
11 Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake.
12 Rejoice, and be exceeding glad: for great is your reward in heaven: for so persecuted they the prophets which were before you.
ST JOHN
CHAPTER 16
1 These things have I spoken unto you, that ye should not be offended.
2 They shall put you out of the synagogues: yea, the time cometh, that whosoever killeth you will think that he doeth God service.
3 And these things will they do unto you, because they have not known the Father, nor me.
ST JOHN
CHAPTER 15
18 If the world hate you, ye know that it hated me before it hated you.
19 If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you.
20 Remember the word that I said unto you, The servant is not greater than his lord. If they have persecuted me, they will also persecute you; if they have kept my saying, they will keep yours also.
21 But all these things will they do unto you for my name’s sake, because they know not him that sent me.
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Cako53
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So my questions are now invalid because they came from a website? Well then your answers are invalid because you are to lazy to type them out. hmmm, you aren't using the greatest logic here.
Why would I remove it if you have shown no proof. If you provfe to me that they aren't a cult, and answering my questions would be a nice start, then I will consider removing it. But until then I will not.
I can easily flip this on you like you flip mine on me. If you were to post the answers instead of being to lazy to maybe I would read them. Hmmm, sound a bit familiar?
I never claimed that they were my questions. Now you are trying to take what I have posted and make me sound foolish. Well I never said they were mine, so really that did you no good. You just pointed out the obvious. So congratualtions and being able to see what is infront of your eyes. You got upset when I provided questions from a website, so why should I listen to your website. "Maybe if you took the time to post the answers."
Contrary to what you said I never used Isaiah 54:17. In fact I never even tried to justify why I was speaking against the LDS church. I was speaking from Luke, not Isaiah. Please don't make assumptions about what I say when they are not true. I was using that as an example of the fact that these questions I have presented have either not been answered or not been answered to a satisfying answer. Instead they would be answered in the manor of an 8 year old.
Really?! You would join the church that is most hated? Hmm that's odd. I would join the church that has the correct teachings. Just because you are hated doesn't mean you are going to heaven. You have some very different thoughts on beliefs I can see.