Mike Winger's "Why I think Calvinism is Unbiblical"

[2ndTimothyGroup]

If you read the thread you would see that to whom this was written claimed that remnant Gentiles are not mentioned anywhere in the Book of Romans and I have lovingly corrected him as instructed to do so in Scripture for it is given for this reason as mentioned in 2 Timothy 3:16-17 which your name here points to.

Christians are always called to give an answer to those who ask them a reason for the hope that is in them with meekness and reverence to God and I sincerely seek to do so to those who are teachable but for them that continually ignore the plain truth of Scripture, they are called to be lovingly dealt with the rod of truth with which offense is expected and which Christ warned would happen.

Was Paul wrong in openly rebuking Peter in Galatians 2:11-14?

I agree with the old Russian proverb which says "It is better to be slapped with the truth than kissed with a lie" and I believe the Scriptures also agree.

Pro_27:5 Open rebuke is better Than love carefully concealed.

Pro_9:8b Rebuke a wise man, and he will love you.

Christians are called to love people more than the fear of possibly offending them which the Gospel is assured of doing to those who are proud of heart.

Do as you wish. I have no desire to argue with you, nor anyone else.

 

[Evmur]

the Israelites of old were a perfect picture and testimony of the depravity of man being chosen by God and yet utterly failing in obedience to Him. To them indeed were given the Scriptures which only served to make most of them more accountable unto their greater judgement but to them also was given the promise of the New Covenant (Jer 31:31-33) which was fulfilled in Christ (Heb 8:8-13) and that David's tent which was prophesied in Amos 9:11 to be rebuilt has already been fulfilled as confirmed below in the New Covenant people of God in which there is neither Jew or Gentile anymore but are one in Him (Gal 3:28).

Act 15:15 And with this the words of the prophets agree, just as it is written:
Act 15:16 'AFTER THIS I WILL RETURN AND WILL REBUILD THE TABERNACLE OF DAVID, WHICH HAS FALLEN DOWN; I WILL REBUILD ITS RUINS, AND I WILL SET IT UP;
Act 15:17 SO THAT THE REST OF MANKIND MAY SEEK THE LORD, EVEN ALL THE GENTILES WHO ARE CALLED BY MY NAME, SAYS THE LORD WHO DOES ALL THESE THINGS.'

You have shot your own foot there.

After Jesus had risen the disciples asked Him this very question "Lord will You at this time restore the kingdom to Israel?" He said to them "Israel has blown it, the kingdom willl never be restored to them"

Wait a minute, YOU said that, Jesus did not.

He said "it is not for you to know times and seasons which the Father has fixed by His own authority but you shall receive power when the Holy Spirit has come upon you and you shall be My witnesses....."

Peter later preached that heaven must receive Jesus until the time of restoration of all things as spoken by the mouths of all the holy prophets of old.

All the prophets speak about a righteous kingdom of peace and prosperity here on earth for all men of which under David the Jews were to administer. "Thy Kingdom Thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven."

 

[Evmur]

All of the true Israel of God being called the remnant was indeed saved in Christ and was being saved in Paul's time and will be saved until the time of the Gentiles is fulfilled which happened as Daniel and Christ prophesied in the temple being destroyed which ended the sacrificial system of the Old Covenant and ushered in the New Covenant in which true Israelites are the seed of Abraham in Christ being circumcised of the heart and not of the flesh because Christ made both one in Him (Eph 2:11-18).

Those who call themselves Jews today follow the oral traditions of the Talmudic Pharisees and not the Scriptures, who Christ warned twice were imposters of the Synagogue of Satan. It is the false dispensational eschatology that has deceived so many today like yourself that is the cause of the open massacre of civilians among those who have more semitic blood than those who claim to be semitic and is well documented in this video below.

Must see: THE MYSTERY OF ISRAEL - SOLVED!

That is cack

Jesus reiterated Daniel by saying "Jerusalem will be trodden down of the Gentiles until the times of the Gentiles be complete" so it was still future.
If you have seeing eyes Jerusalem has been recovered to the Jews, that's what the war is all about.

The nations are once again going to surround Jerusalem with their armies but God is going to come and defend the Jews "they shall look upon Him whom they have pierced and they will repent and surrender to Him, the whole nation of them.

Until God is ready to do all these things there will be no rapture, no resurrection of the righteous. And these things will not take place without GREAT TRIBULATION to the church.

The Jews will not endure the Great Tribulation, there will be trouble in Jerusalem for sure but the Israel as a whole will escape these things. But before the antichrist can accomplish his work he must destroy [in as much as he is able] the church. This is why the church goes through the great tribulation .... not the Jews.

Israel's punishment is at an end, their vindication draws nears.

 

[Evmur]

those who fall away and never return and die in their sin will know that they were never backsliders married to the Lord but were reprobate never chosen by Him for salvation.

so they were not saved.

 

[Evmur]

All of the true Israel of God being called the remnant was indeed saved in Christ and was being saved in Paul's time and will be saved until the time of the Gentiles is fulfilled which happened as Daniel and Christ prophesied in the temple being destroyed which ended the sacrificial system of the Old Covenant and ushered in the New Covenant in which true Israelites are the seed of Abraham in Christ being circumcised of the heart and not of the flesh because Christ made both one in Him (Eph 2:11-18).

Those who call themselves Jews today follow the oral traditions of the Talmudic Pharisees and not the Scriptures, who Christ warned twice were imposters of the Synagogue of Satan. It is the false dispensational eschatology that has deceived so many today like yourself that is the cause of the open massacre of civilians among those who have more semitic blood than those who claim to be semitic and is well documented in this video below.

Must see: THE MYSTERY OF ISRAEL - SOLVED!

If you have the Holy Spirit you should be alerted to the words of satanic origin [THE MYSTERY OF OF ISREAL - SOLVED]

All anti semitism is fo satanic origin. As shown in Revelation how the dragon sent a flood after the woman ... but she was given wings to fly into the wilderness to be nourished.

 

[maxamir]

Do as you wish. I have no desire to argue with you, nor anyone else.

I do not seek to do as I wish but as the Lord wants which is according to Scripture and I hope you desire to do the same.

 

[maxamir]

You have shot your own foot there.

After Jesus had risen the disciples asked Him this very question "Lord will You at this time restore the kingdom to Israel?" He said to them "Israel has blown it, the kingdom willl never be restored to them"

Wait a minute, YOU said that, Jesus did not.

He said "it is not for you to know times and seasons which the Father has fixed by His own authority but you shall receive power when the Holy Spirit has come upon you and you shall be My witnesses....."

Peter later preached that heaven must receive Jesus until the time of restoration of all things as spoken by the mouths of all the holy prophets of old.

All the prophets speak about a righteous kingdom of peace and prosperity here on earth for all men of which under David the Jews were to administer. "Thy Kingdom Thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven."

Christ is currently ruling through His people who are more than conquerors right now and herald the great victory He has wrought for them but the restoration of all things does not take place in an imaginary 1000 year carnal kingdom but after this world is burnt up in judgement and a new Heaven and Earth is made in which righteousness dwells.

2Pe 3:10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night, in which the heavens will pass away with a great noise, and the elements will melt with fervent heat; both the earth and the works that are in it will be burned up.
2Pe 3:11 Therefore, since all these things will be dissolved, what manner of persons ought you to be in holy conduct and godliness,
2Pe 3:12 looking for and hastening the coming of the day of God, because of which the heavens will be dissolved, being on fire, and the elements will melt with fervent heat?
2Pe 3:13 Nevertheless we, according to His promise, look for new heavens and a new earth in which righteousness dwells.

 

[maxamir]

That is cack

Jesus reiterated Daniel by saying "Jerusalem will be trodden down of the Gentiles until the times of the Gentiles be complete" so it was still future.
If you have seeing eyes Jerusalem has been recovered to the Jews, that's what the war is all about.

The nations are once again going to surround Jerusalem with their armies but God is going to come and defend the Jews "they shall look upon Him whom they have pierced and they will repent and surrender to Him, the whole nation of them.

Until God is ready to do all these things there will be no rapture, no resurrection of the righteous. And these things will not take place without GREAT TRIBULATION to the church.

The Jews will not endure the Great Tribulation, there will be trouble in Jerusalem for sure but the Israel as a whole will escape these things. But before the antichrist can accomplish his work he must destroy [in as much as he is able] the church. This is why the church goes through the great tribulation .... not the Jews.

Israel's punishment is at an end, their vindication draws nears.

the time of the Gentiles trodding down Jerusalem was completed in that generation and the only Israel that exists today is that which is made up of people from all nations, tribes, tongues and peoples as promised to Abraham.

There is no rapture to escape tribulation and Satan is currently being loosed but because of your faulty eschatology you and so many like you will not be prepared for the winnowing fan that is coming to sift His wheat from the chaff.

 

[maxamir]

so they were not saved.

1Jn 2:19 They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would have continued with us; but they went out that they might be made manifest, that none of them were of us.

 

[maxamir]

If you have the Holy Spirit you should be alerted to the words of satanic origin [THE MYSTERY OF OF ISREAL - SOLVED]

All anti semitism is fo satanic origin. As shown in Revelation how the dragon sent a flood after the woman ... but she was given wings to fly into the wilderness to be nourished.

Semites are descendants of Shem and there are currently around 30 Semitic languages in the middle east and most of those who speak them have absolutely no connection to the counterfeit Jews today that Christ warned of.

The fake Jews are currently slaughtering the true Jews!

 

[2ndTimothyGroup]

I do not seek to do as I wish but as the Lord wants which is according to Scripture and I hope you desire to do the same.

It seems that your objective is to refute virtually everything that everyone says. For any person to do that consistently should concern even the least reasonable of people.

I simply do not have the time to been within satanic Circles of bizarre conversation. I wish you the best.

 

[maxamir]

It seems that your objective is to refute virtually everything that everyone says. For any person to do that consistently should concern even the least reasonable of people.

I simply do not have the time to been within satanic Circles of bizarre conversation. I wish you the best.

my objective is indeed to refute every thing that is contrary to Holy Scripture and if you do not care about God's truth then I doubt you are truly a Christian yet and sincerely pray that God gives you absolutely no peace until you are humbled to submit to His will and not your own as plainly declared in His Word.

 

[cv5]

those who fall away and never return and die in their sin will know that they were never backsliders married to the Lord but were reprobate never chosen by Him for salvation.

Deu 4:29
But if from thence thou shalt seek the LORD thy God, thou shalt find him, if thou seek him with all thy heart and with all thy soul.

Deu 4:30
When thou art in tribulation, and all these things are come upon thee, even in the latter days, if thou turn to the LORD thy God, and shalt be obedient unto his voice;

Deu 4:31
(For the LORD thy God is a merciful God, he will not forsake thee, neither destroy thee, nor forget the covenant of thy fathers which he sware unto them

 

[maxamir]

Deu 4:29
But if from thence thou shalt seek the LORD thy God, thou shalt find him, if thou seek him with all thy heart and with all thy soul.

Deu 4:30
When thou art in tribulation, and all these things are come upon thee, even in the latter days, if thou turn to the LORD thy God, and shalt be obedient unto his voice;

Deu 4:31
(For the LORD thy God is a merciful God, he will not forsake thee, neither destroy thee, nor forget the covenant of thy fathers which he sware unto them

Act 13:48 Now when the Gentiles heard this, they were glad and glorified the word of the Lord. And as many as had been appointed to eternal life believed.