Methodist Church continues to split.
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RELIGION, is always trying to make some kind of copy. a gay preacher , one they don't know Jesus, two, have they not read about sodom and Gomorrah, we need to pray for them, that. they see the truth and to have a relationship with Jesus, they might know about him, but they don't know him, the need to be delivered,
Religion does not mean Christian. Anyone can be religious, but only those who know Jesus as their personal savior can be Christian.
A Christian will not practice those things listed in Galatians 5:19-21
Gal 5:19 Now the works of the flesh are evident: sexual immorality, impurity, sensuality,
Gal 5:20 idolatry, sorcery, enmity, strife, jealousy, fits of anger, rivalries, dissensions, divisions,
Gal 5:21 envy, drunkenness, orgies, and things like these. I warn you, as I warned you before, that those who do such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.
If you do these things you can call yourself religious, but you are in no way saved, and thus no way a Christian.
A Christian will not practice those things listed in Galatians 5:19-21
Gal 5:19 Now the works of the flesh are evident: sexual immorality, impurity, sensuality,
Gal 5:20 idolatry, sorcery, enmity, strife, jealousy, fits of anger, rivalries, dissensions, divisions,
Gal 5:21 envy, drunkenness, orgies, and things like these. I warn you, as I warned you before, that those who do such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.
If you do these things you can call yourself religious, but you are in no way saved, and thus no way a Christian.
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Please don't bear false witness against me. I was responding to your statement, "We are literally witnessing the great apostasy, or falling away." I responded if you were aware of the Reformation or Great Awakening(s). Apostasy isn't a new thing, and there's really no evidence that it's worse now than it's been before. In fact, things have been much worse at different times in history.
But what is the point? We have had revivals in the past and the Catholic church is corrupt. But "apostasy" means departure, specifically the church departing from the word of God. I don't think the Catholic church ever had a period of time when they were walking according to the word of God so how could the reformation be a response to apostasy? Likewise with many of the revivals in the past, they were not about the church leaving and then returning to the Lord, it was about people coming to the Lord for the first time in great numbers.
The point is apostasy has happened before, and I see no reason to believe it's worse now than every before. Revivals happened because the Church wasn't doing the job. If you're saying the Catholic church has never in history been part of the Church, then that's a completely different discussion that I'm not going to get into. I see no point.