Message from a doctor. Please read this Very Usefully.

  • Christian Chat is a moderated online Christian community allowing Christians around the world to fellowship with each other in real time chat via webcam, voice, and text, with the Christian Chat app. You can also start or participate in a Bible-based discussion here in the Christian Chat Forums, where members can also share with each other their own videos, pictures, or favorite Christian music.

    If you are a Christian and need encouragement and fellowship, we're here for you! If you are not a Christian but interested in knowing more about Jesus our Lord, you're also welcome! Want to know what the Bible says, and how you can apply it to your life? Join us!

    To make new Christian friends now around the world, click here to join Christian Chat.
May 27, 2023
79
19
8
#1
Whenever, I (‘I’ being the tutor at medical school) teach clinical medicine to students in the fourth year of medicine, I ask the following question:


"What are the causes of mental confusion in the elderly?





Some answers like: "Tumors in the head".


I answer: No!





Others suggest: "Early symptoms of Alzheimer's".


I answer again: No!





With each rejection of their answers, their responses dry up.


And they are even more open-mouthed, when I list the most common cause:





- dehydration





It may sound like a joke; but it isn't.


People over 60 generally stop feeling thirsty and consequently, stop drinking fluids.


When no one is around to remind them to drink fluids, they quickly dehydrate.





Dehydration is severe and affects the entire body. It may cause abrupt mental confusion, a drop in blood pressure, increased heart palpitations, angina (chest pain), coma and even death.





This habit of forgetting to drink fluids, begins at age 60, when we have just over 50% of the water we should have in our bodies.


People over 60 have a lower water reserve. This is part of the natural aging process.





But there are more complications. Although they are dehydrated, they don't feel like drinking water, because their internal balance mechanisms don't work very well.





Conclusion:


People over 60 years old dehydrate easily, not only because they have a smaller water supply; but also because they do not feel the lack of water in the body.





Although people over 60 may look healthy, the performance of reactions and chemical functions can damage their entire body.





So here are two alerts:


1) Get into the habit of drinking liquids. Liquids include water, juices, teas, coconut water, soups, and water-rich fruits, such as watermelon, melon, peaches and pineapple; Orange and tangerine also work.


The important thing is that, every two hours, you must drink some liquid.





Remember this!


2) Alert for family members: constantly offer fluids to people over 60. At the same time, observe them.





If you realize that they are rejecting liquids and, from one day to the next, they are irritable, breathless or display a lack of attention, these are almost certainly recurrent symptoms of dehydration.





Inspired to drink more water now??


Send this information out to others! DO IT NOW! Your friends and family need to know for themselves and help you to be healthier and happier.


*It's good to share with people over 60* an anyone intending to get to over 60 !!!






My added comments.


On my stay in hospital early 2016 my oximeter SpO2 reading was always 95%, the hospital put me on blood thinners because I was dehydrated. Later on that year I had a hernia operation, after the operation I was told by the ward doctor to drink lots of water to flush out some stuff that was given to me during the operation, after drinking almost 3 liters of water for some logic I over did, in between two nurses reading of about half a hour the SpO2 suddenly jumped from 95% to 98%. The nurse thought the oximeter had gone faulty and she went and got another one, and sounded very surprised to get the same higher reading. After the SpO2 got to 98% I stopped drinking so much water.





With all the walking I did before 2016, such as 40 minutes fast walk each way to work and back home each day and with lots of other walking I slowly dehydrated myself.


Since then I realized there is no need to splash out on the cost and buy oximeters, although it is faster and best to have one ready to see if you are dehydrated during the very hot summer days, you can see there is a strong link between “The amount of water (liquid) you might drink, the amount of work or sweating you might do and the SpO2 reading.” There could be a cheaper, better test so you do not need to use the oximeter so much, back in the days when I was dehydrated and my SpO2 reading would have been stuck on 95%, my first toilet visit of the morning just after I got out of bed was always dark yellow until I drank more water during the morning, Now I have realised if my first toilet visit of the day is not almost clear, it means I have not been drinking enough water during the day before.





More things on water.


I used to get rid of a runny nose during the flu season, by drinking a glass of water every 20 minutes, the nose dries up after 2 hours. It seems drinking enough water during the flu season helps flush out any virus from the body. (but I never get the influenza now, or cold sores for that matter since I cut down on food rich with refined sugar, NZ recipe for Milo is just a sugar fix with hot chocolate flavouring, that is why when it was first made off-shore nobody liked it, until they put all the sugar back into it.)





When I first brought a Brita water filter jug I noticed the filtered water was not much different from unfiltered tap water. I can understand why some people might buy a filtering system and quickly lose interest with the on going cost to keep it going. I heard that to filter water best, the water needs to go through water filters at least three times, so I went and bought another water jug filter. I use the old jug to get water from the tap and pass water from jug to jug twice so the water goes through a filter four times and drink water from the new jug. I am sure the water feels softer or something, unless the extra filtering gives me some kind of placebo effect. This comment of passing water through filters at least three times is backed up by someone who needed to filter water enough to make his own home made wine succeed.




I think it is better to drink most water during the morning and avoid drinking so much liquid during the late afternoon and evening. I had a very good naturopath who got out of bed during the night to make a toilet visit called “nocturia”, he tripped and hit his head against the wall, since then he claimed he can not think as good. There is some claim that eating carbohydrates late afternoon, evening might make someone more likely to make a middle of the night toilet visit.

The telephone numbers are for New Zealand since there is not telephone books anymore,
The light gray font was done that way, so once it is read you could write on top of it with whiteboard marker.

No doubt you could use the idea to make your own up
 

Attachments

Ballaurena

Well-known member
May 27, 2024
415
274
63
#2
Thanks for the tip since I live with two elderly ladies.

And while the avoiding sugar is definitely integral to avoiding sickness, the water drinking tip doesn't work for me since I drink and drink when I'm sick and it doesn't dry my nose. For me, though, avoiding dairy when I'm sick is night and day in my nasal symptoms whatever the studies elsewhere show.
 

HealthAndHappiness

Well-known member
Jul 7, 2022
10,233
4,284
113
Almost Heaven West Virginia
#3
Whenever, I (‘I’ being the tutor at medical school) teach clinical medicine to students in the fourth year of medicine, I ask the following question:


"What are the causes of mental confusion in the elderly?





Some answers like: "Tumors in the head".


I answer: No!





Others suggest: "Early symptoms of Alzheimer's".


I answer again: No!





With each rejection of their answers, their responses dry up.


And they are even more open-mouthed, when I list the most common cause:





- dehydration





It may sound like a joke; but it isn't.


People over 60 generally stop feeling thirsty and consequently, stop drinking fluids.


When no one is around to remind them to drink fluids, they quickly dehydrate.





Dehydration is severe and affects the entire body. It may cause abrupt mental confusion, a drop in blood pressure, increased heart palpitations, angina (chest pain), coma and even death.





This habit of forgetting to drink fluids, begins at age 60, when we have just over 50% of the water we should have in our bodies.


People over 60 have a lower water reserve. This is part of the natural aging process.





But there are more complications. Although they are dehydrated, they don't feel like drinking water, because their internal balance mechanisms don't work very well.





Conclusion:


People over 60 years old dehydrate easily, not only because they have a smaller water supply; but also because they do not feel the lack of water in the body.





Although people over 60 may look healthy, the performance of reactions and chemical functions can damage their entire body.





So here are two alerts:


1) Get into the habit of drinking liquids. Liquids include water, juices, teas, coconut water, soups, and water-rich fruits, such as watermelon, melon, peaches and pineapple; Orange and tangerine also work.


The important thing is that, every two hours, you must drink some liquid.





Remember this!


2) Alert for family members: constantly offer fluids to people over 60. At the same time, observe them.





If you realize that they are rejecting liquids and, from one day to the next, they are irritable, breathless or display a lack of attention, these are almost certainly recurrent symptoms of dehydration.





Inspired to drink more water now??


Send this information out to others! DO IT NOW! Your friends and family need to know for themselves and help you to be healthier and happier.


*It's good to share with people over 60* an anyone intending to get to over 60 !!!






My added comments.


On my stay in hospital early 2016 my oximeter SpO2 reading was always 95%, the hospital put me on blood thinners because I was dehydrated. Later on that year I had a hernia operation, after the operation I was told by the ward doctor to drink lots of water to flush out some stuff that was given to me during the operation, after drinking almost 3 liters of water for some logic I over did, in between two nurses reading of about half a hour the SpO2 suddenly jumped from 95% to 98%. The nurse thought the oximeter had gone faulty and she went and got another one, and sounded very surprised to get the same higher reading. After the SpO2 got to 98% I stopped drinking so much water.





With all the walking I did before 2016, such as 40 minutes fast walk each way to work and back home each day and with lots of other walking I slowly dehydrated myself.


Since then I realized there is no need to splash out on the cost and buy oximeters, although it is faster and best to have one ready to see if you are dehydrated during the very hot summer days, you can see there is a strong link between “The amount of water (liquid) you might drink, the amount of work or sweating you might do and the SpO2 reading.” There could be a cheaper, better test so you do not need to use the oximeter so much, back in the days when I was dehydrated and my SpO2 reading would have been stuck on 95%, my first toilet visit of the morning just after I got out of bed was always dark yellow until I drank more water during the morning, Now I have realised if my first toilet visit of the day is not almost clear, it means I have not been drinking enough water during the day before.





More things on water.


I used to get rid of a runny nose during the flu season, by drinking a glass of water every 20 minutes, the nose dries up after 2 hours. It seems drinking enough water during the flu season helps flush out any virus from the body. (but I never get the influenza now, or cold sores for that matter since I cut down on food rich with refined sugar, NZ recipe for Milo is just a sugar fix with hot chocolate flavouring, that is why when it was first made off-shore nobody liked it, until they put all the sugar back into it.)





When I first brought a Brita water filter jug I noticed the filtered water was not much different from unfiltered tap water. I can understand why some people might buy a filtering system and quickly lose interest with the on going cost to keep it going. I heard that to filter water best, the water needs to go through water filters at least three times, so I went and bought another water jug filter. I use the old jug to get water from the tap and pass water from jug to jug twice so the water goes through a filter four times and drink water from the new jug. I am sure the water feels softer or something, unless the extra filtering gives me some kind of placebo effect. This comment of passing water through filters at least three times is backed up by someone who needed to filter water enough to make his own home made wine succeed.




I think it is better to drink most water during the morning and avoid drinking so much liquid during the late afternoon and evening. I had a very good naturopath who got out of bed during the night to make a toilet visit called “nocturia”, he tripped and hit his head against the wall, since then he claimed he can not think as good. There is some claim that eating carbohydrates late afternoon, evening might make someone more likely to make a middle of the night toilet visit.

The telephone numbers are for New Zealand since there is not telephone books anymore,
The light gray font was done that way, so once it is read you could write on top of it with whiteboard marker.

No doubt you could use the idea to make your own up

In American the nurses and doctors would call your post utter nonsense and heresy. They would be more than happy to give you dangerous blood anticoagulants, and a dozen other drugs and wash it down with one glass of water to make sure you don't get too much.

Dehydration and starvation are the favorite means of murder by the smiling doctors and nurses in American hospitals. Hospice nurses and doctors do likewise.
You will not find a medical teacher in USA medical schools addressing the important topic you brought up. They would be fired. The pharmaceutical companies that fund and direct the industry do not approve.

GOOD JOB!
🍵🙂👍
 

HealthAndHappiness

Well-known member
Jul 7, 2022
10,233
4,284
113
Almost Heaven West Virginia
#4
Whenever, I (‘I’ being the tutor at medical school) teach clinical medicine to students in the fourth year of medicine, I ask the following question:


"What are the causes of mental confusion in the elderly?





Some answers like: "Tumors in the head".


I answer: No!





Others suggest: "Early symptoms of Alzheimer's".


I answer again: No!





With each rejection of their answers, their responses dry up.


And they are even more open-mouthed, when I list the most common cause:





- dehydration





It may sound like a joke; but it isn't.


People over 60 generally stop feeling thirsty and consequently, stop drinking fluids.


When no one is around to remind them to drink fluids, they quickly dehydrate.





Dehydration is severe and affects the entire body. It may cause abrupt mental confusion, a drop in blood pressure, increased heart palpitations, angina (chest pain), coma and even death.





This habit of forgetting to drink fluids, begins at age 60, when we have just over 50% of the water we should have in our bodies.


People over 60 have a lower water reserve. This is part of the natural aging process.





But there are more complications. Although they are dehydrated, they don't feel like drinking water, because their internal balance mechanisms don't work very well.





Conclusion:


People over 60 years old dehydrate easily, not only because they have a smaller water supply; but also because they do not feel the lack of water in the body.





Although people over 60 may look healthy, the performance of reactions and chemical functions can damage their entire body.





So here are two alerts:


1) Get into the habit of drinking liquids. Liquids include water, juices, teas, coconut water, soups, and water-rich fruits, such as watermelon, melon, peaches and pineapple; Orange and tangerine also work.


The important thing is that, every two hours, you must drink some liquid.





Remember this!


2) Alert for family members: constantly offer fluids to people over 60. At the same time, observe them.





If you realize that they are rejecting liquids and, from one day to the next, they are irritable, breathless or display a lack of attention, these are almost certainly recurrent symptoms of dehydration.





Inspired to drink more water now??


Send this information out to others! DO IT NOW! Your friends and family need to know for themselves and help you to be healthier and happier.


*It's good to share with people over 60* an anyone intending to get to over 60 !!!






My added comments.


On my stay in hospital early 2016 my oximeter SpO2 reading was always 95%, the hospital put me on blood thinners because I was dehydrated. Later on that year I had a hernia operation, after the operation I was told by the ward doctor to drink lots of water to flush out some stuff that was given to me during the operation, after drinking almost 3 liters of water for some logic I over did, in between two nurses reading of about half a hour the SpO2 suddenly jumped from 95% to 98%. The nurse thought the oximeter had gone faulty and she went and got another one, and sounded very surprised to get the same higher reading. After the SpO2 got to 98% I stopped drinking so much water.





With all the walking I did before 2016, such as 40 minutes fast walk each way to work and back home each day and with lots of other walking I slowly dehydrated myself.


Since then I realized there is no need to splash out on the cost and buy oximeters, although it is faster and best to have one ready to see if you are dehydrated during the very hot summer days, you can see there is a strong link between “The amount of water (liquid) you might drink, the amount of work or sweating you might do and the SpO2 reading.” There could be a cheaper, better test so you do not need to use the oximeter so much, back in the days when I was dehydrated and my SpO2 reading would have been stuck on 95%, my first toilet visit of the morning just after I got out of bed was always dark yellow until I drank more water during the morning, Now I have realised if my first toilet visit of the day is not almost clear, it means I have not been drinking enough water during the day before.





More things on water.


I used to get rid of a runny nose during the flu season, by drinking a glass of water every 20 minutes, the nose dries up after 2 hours. It seems drinking enough water during the flu season helps flush out any virus from the body. (but I never get the influenza now, or cold sores for that matter since I cut down on food rich with refined sugar, NZ recipe for Milo is just a sugar fix with hot chocolate flavouring, that is why when it was first made off-shore nobody liked it, until they put all the sugar back into it.)





When I first brought a Brita water filter jug I noticed the filtered water was not much different from unfiltered tap water. I can understand why some people might buy a filtering system and quickly lose interest with the on going cost to keep it going. I heard that to filter water best, the water needs to go through water filters at least three times, so I went and bought another water jug filter. I use the old jug to get water from the tap and pass water from jug to jug twice so the water goes through a filter four times and drink water from the new jug. I am sure the water feels softer or something, unless the extra filtering gives me some kind of placebo effect. This comment of passing water through filters at least three times is backed up by someone who needed to filter water enough to make his own home made wine succeed.




I think it is better to drink most water during the morning and avoid drinking so much liquid during the late afternoon and evening. I had a very good naturopath who got out of bed during the night to make a toilet visit called “nocturia”, he tripped and hit his head against the wall, since then he claimed he can not think as good. There is some claim that eating carbohydrates late afternoon, evening might make someone more likely to make a middle of the night toilet visit.

The telephone numbers are for New Zealand since there is not telephone books anymore,
The light gray font was done that way, so once it is read you could write on top of it with whiteboard marker.

No doubt you could use the idea to make your own up
I appreciate your quest to stay hydrated and encourage others.
That shows me your heart to bless strangers.

I'm sure you can pick up on my sarcasm in the last post. I'm awaken nightly with the restless thoughts of harm the hospitals have done to my family and others. I have no hesitation on speaking the truth about American hospitals. Aside from the unique individuals who disregard the evils of the medical system, I have complete contempt with Americans' most popular idols.

However, I gave credit where credit was due. The honorable medical staff are honorable indeed. The sad fact is that most do as they are told without regards to the patients ' wellbeing.

I was almost ready to open a health supply store, so I reviewed a few water purifiers over the years. The one I use is a Royal Berkey from many years ago. It serves me well from a well. Without doing some digging into the most recent tests, last I checked a couple years ago, the Alexapure had the highest ranked ratings from third party Labs. It's similar to mine. In America, the Berkey company came under attack and no longer sell here from what I read. Your location may be different.

They are large gravity purification units with elements that are reported to be impregnated with silver to keep bacteria growth from taking over. They last a long time. The small pitcher filters are simply activated charcoal and have the dangerous build up of bacteria that passes through in short time. It puts the user at risk, however, I like your attempt to get the chemicals out of the water, especially if tap. The municipal water companies add over 100 chemicals to the water supplies under the single drums labeled Fluorosilicic acid. These are literally toxic wastes from China and the by products of the aluminum/ synthetic agriculture chemical industries.

Why are you so concerned with your O2 saturation if you don't mind me asking? 95-98 is good for any healthy person.
 
May 27, 2023
79
19
8
#5
With SpO2 at 95% you are dehydrated, Below that you might have some other health issue, you need 97% to 99% to be well hydrated,
 

HealthAndHappiness

Well-known member
Jul 7, 2022
10,233
4,284
113
Almost Heaven West Virginia
#6
With SpO2 at 95% you are dehydrated, Below that you might have some other health issue, you need 97% to 99% to be well hydrated,
Here's a scientific comparison of different long term use gravity filters that might interest you.

Gravity Filters

That's good that you are keeping track of your hydration. One thing I've found also an important component of the hydration formula is to keep up electrolytes too. I'm not talking Gatorade or sport drinks like many recommend. They really aren't very good for us.

When drinking and eating, I recommend to my clients to take good quality supplements. They don't have to be the most expensive, but you want to avoid the oxide forms. That would be like Magnesium Oxide which is a waste of money. I use 100% sea salt right now with no flowing agents or prusate in it.
 
May 27, 2023
79
19
8
#7
Thank you HealthAndHappiness I was not sure if you was a health care provider. as I said
With SpO2 at 95% you are dehydrated, Below that you might have some other health issue, you need 97% to 99% to be well hydrated,


Because when you are not stuck on 95% (SpO2) there is no relationship between The amount of water (liquid) you might drink, the amount of work or sweating you might do and the SpO2 reading.

It seems that on 95% it could mean the red blood cells are clogged together, making them harder to carry oxygen, between 97% & 99% the red blood cells do not clog together and can carry more oxygen, it could be as I found out, the hospital looks at a blood sample under a microscope and the only thing they understand is "THIS PATIENT MUST TO BE PUT ON BLOOD THINNERS" which as I understand it makes it harder for the blood to clot when there is blood vessel leakage.

This information is not given in the instruction sheet of oxymeter
 
May 27, 2023
79
19
8
#8
SPOT THE DIFFERENCE 1 CORRECTION & ADD

Thank you @HealthAndHappiness I was not sure if you was a health care provider. as I said
With SpO2 at 95% you are dehydrated, Below that you might have some other health issue, you need 97% to 99% to be well hydrated,


Because when you are not stuck on 95% (SpO2) there is no relationship between The amount of water (liquid) you might drink, the amount of work or sweating you might do and the SpO2 reading.

It seems that on 95% it could mean the red blood cells are clogged together, making them harder to carry oxygen, between 97% & 99% the red blood cells do not clog together and can carry more oxygen, it could be as I found out, the hospital looks at a blood sample under a microscope and the only thing they understand is "THIS PATIENT MUST TO BE PUT ON BLOOD THINNERS" which as I understand it makes it harder for the blood to clot when there is blood vessel leakage.

This TOP SECRET information is not given in the instruction sheet of oxymeter
 

HealthAndHappiness

Well-known member
Jul 7, 2022
10,233
4,284
113
Almost Heaven West Virginia
#9
SPOT THE DIFFERENCE 1 CORRECTION & ADD

Thank you @HealthAndHappiness I was not sure if you was a health care provider. as I said
With SpO2 at 95% you are dehydrated, Below that you might have some other health issue, you need 97% to 99% to be well hydrated,


Because when you are not stuck on 95% (SpO2) there is no relationship between The amount of water (liquid) you might drink, the amount of work or sweating you might do and the SpO2 reading.

It seems that on 95% it could mean the red blood cells are clogged together, making them harder to carry oxygen, between 97% & 99% the red blood cells do not clog together and can carry more oxygen, it could be as I found out, the hospital looks at a blood sample under a microscope and the only thing they understand is "THIS PATIENT MUST TO BE PUT ON BLOOD THINNERS" which as I understand it makes it harder for the blood to clot when there is blood vessel leakage.

This TOP SECRET information is not given in the instruction sheet of oxymeter
American hospital cardiologists put their patients on a protocol of many different drugs. Blood thinners are some of the most dangerous. Like we agree on, water is safer and healthier. I'm not telling anyone what to do, just in agreement with the hydration issue.