Matthew 22:41-46, question

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Vinny22

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So in this verse I partially understand how Jesus is laying the beginnings of introducing himself as the son of God. However what confused me was how he was arguing against himself being the son of David, because isn’t he a descendant of David? If anyone could clarify that would be wonderful.
 

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Jesus is showing quite correctly by citing this passage that the Messiah is also God. It is true Jesus fulfills the messianic prophecies in regards to coming from the root of David but also at the same time since Jesus is also God he is in a sense David's father since by the Word of God (Jesus) everything that was created was made. It is similar to the point made when Jesus says "that before Abraham I am."
 

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So in this verse I partially understand how Jesus is laying the beginnings of introducing himself as the son of God. However what confused me was how he was arguing against himself being the son of David, because isn’t he a descendant of David? If anyone could clarify that would be wonderful.
He is not saying that David is not His physical ancestor.

He is saying that David recognized that Jesus was God, and his Savior. So why don't you Pharisees.
 

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So in this verse I partially understand how Jesus is laying the beginnings of introducing himself as the son of God. However what confused me was how he was arguing against himself being the son of David, because isn’t he a descendant of David? If anyone could clarify that would be wonderful.
Are you also VineyardsOfEngedi?
 

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If anyone could clarify that would be wonderful.
First notice the response of the Pharisees: 42...They say unto him, The Son of David.

The Pharisees wanted to see Christ (Mashiach or Messiah) as merely the descendant of David. They did not want to see Him as the "Son of God" at one and the same time.

So Christ quoted Psalm 110:1 The LORD (Yehova or Yahweh) said unto my Lord (adon or adonai)..." "David in spirit" means by divine inspiration, and those are two different Hebrew words to distinguish God the Father from the Lord Jesus Christ.

David made Christ "Lord", and for all intents and purposes that would be (a) the Son of God and (b) God the Son.

Now at this point the Pharisees should have fallen at the feet of Christ, and worshipped Him as the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob (see Exodus 3). Instead they later on said that by calling Himself "the Son of God", Christ (a mere man in their estimation) was speaking blasphemy, and therefore deserved to die. This led to the crucifixion (which was all a part of God's plan of salvation).

So what happened later on is that these same unbelieving Jews established Rabbinic Judaism, rejected Jesus of Nazareth as their true Messiah, and set up the Talmud in opposition to the Word of God. Today unbelieving Jews continue to reject Christ. And Orthodox and Ultra-Orthodox Jews expect to see their "true Messiah" (who will be the Antichrist, but they are blind to that).
 

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So in this verse I partially understand how Jesus is laying the beginnings of introducing himself as the son of God. However what confused me was how he was arguing against himself being the son of David, because isn’t he a descendant of David? If anyone could clarify that would be wonderful.
He wasn't arguing against Himself being the son of David; He was asking a rhetorical questions to get the Pharisees thinking. The Pharisees already knew the contents of Psalm 110:1, but were rejecting David's descendent (Jesus) as being the Lord.
 

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So in this verse I partially understand how Jesus is laying the beginnings of introducing himself as the son of God. However what confused me was how he was arguing against himself being the son of David, because isn’t he a descendant of David? If anyone could clarify that would be wonderful.
hardly the beginnings of demonstrating He is the Son of God, ha!

but not only is He showing them that the scriptures say the Messiah is both human and divine, but also pointing out the virtue of humbleness, because instead of David as an elder calling himself the lord of his offspring, he calls The Son lord.

those testing Christ trying to find fault in Him in this chapter had already seen and heard enough to have known He is the Messiah, but instead of humbling themselves before Him they were still trying to trap Him - - and Christ had humbled Himself to be born, and to come to them with salvation, meekly. He was there in humility, their Lord, but being treated like they were His lords!

David calls Him Lord because David understood himself to be the servant of The Son, that although He was born a man, an offspring of the line of David, He is God manifest in the flesh.
 

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So in this verse I partially understand how Jesus is laying the beginnings of introducing himself as the son of God. However what confused me was how he was arguing against himself being the son of David, because isn’t he a descendant of David? If anyone could clarify that would be wonderful.
Think of it he was born of a virgin

how can he be David’s son ? There’s no earthly fleshly father of Jesus he was born of a virgin .
 

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“And David himself saith in the book of Psalms, The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand, Till I make thine enemies thy footstool. David therefore calleth him Lord, how is he then his son?”
‭‭Luke‬ ‭20:42-44‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“Therefore being by the right hand of God exalted, and having received of the Father the promise of the Holy Ghost, he hath shed forth this, which ye now see and hear. For David is not ascended into the heavens: but he saith himself, The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand, Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ.”
‭‭Acts‬ ‭2:33-34, 36‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Jesus and Peter are referring to

The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool. The LORD shall send the rod of thy strength out of Zion: Rule thou in the midst of thine enemies. Thy people shall be willing in the day of thy power, In the beauties of holiness from the womb of the morning: Thou hast the dew of thy youth. The LORD hath sworn, and will not repent, Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchizedek.”
‭‭Psalm‬ ‭110:1-4‬ ‭

david was never made king of Gods kingdom nor was Solomon those men were foretelling Things bout Jesus always all along the plan was always Jesus and the gospel.

“and he shall send Jesus Christ, which before was preached unto you: whom the heaven must receive until the times of restitution of all things, which God hath spoken by the mouth of all his holy prophets since the world began. ….Yea, and all the prophets from Samuel and those that follow after, as many as have spoken, have likewise foretold of these days.”
‭‭Acts‬ ‭3:20-21, 24‬ ‭KJV‬‬

He made covenants with men but also promises of Christ to those chosen men like Abraham , Isaac . jacob, David and eventually Joseph who never had marital relations with Mary until after Jesus was born

the son of the promise that was made to David promised son of David

“And, behold, thou shalt conceive ( it’s a command like let there be light ) in thy womb, and bring forth a son, and shalt call his name JESUS. He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David:”
‭‭Luke‬ ‭1:31-32‬ ‭KJV‬‬

at he son was born according to the promises th at weren’t fulfilled by men like Isaac and Solomon the eternal and all nations promises

Jesus the promised seed of Abraham who would bless all nations

“and in thy seed shall all the nations of the earth be blessed; because thou hast obeyed my voice.”
‭‭Genesis‬ ‭22:18‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭24:14‬ ‭

“And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.”
‭‭Mark‬ ‭16:15-16‬ ‭


“And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, saying, In thee shall all nations be blessed.

….Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ. …..For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ. And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.”
‭‭Galatians‬ ‭3:8, 16, 27, 29‬ ‭
 

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So in this verse I partially understand how Jesus is laying the beginnings of introducing himself as the son of God. However what confused me was how he was arguing against himself being the son of David, because isn’t he a descendant of David? If anyone could clarify that would be wonderful.
Jesus is not arguing against being the son of David—He is arguing for His divinity. Remember the Pharisees and Sadducees did not believe He is the Son of God. They did not believe He was divine. Jesus did not deny being a descendant of David, but more important, He is David’s Lord and Savior. So his argument is, “If I am ONLY a son of David (only fleshly related) then why did David call me “Lord”; because obviously the scripture he used refers to the Son of God.

Jesus asked them whose Son He was to expose their disbelief in His divinity. And it worked because they only acknowledged his earthly ancestry (to David). Jesus is saying I am more than that! I am the Son if God. And He uses David to prove it because David (in the Spirit) called Him “Lord.”
 

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david was never made king of Gods kingdom
True. But he will in fact be a "prince" over redeemed and restored Israel in the future, and Christ will be King of kings, and Lord of Lords. See Ezekiel's prophecy.

The virgin birth of Christ did not cancel His earthly descent as Jesus of Nazareth, who descended from Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Judah, David, and Solomon. Joseph being the legal descendant of Solomon made Christ His "son". Thus He also became the direct descendant of David (Mt 1:7-16).

So when the Jews greeted Christ in His triumphal entry into Jerusalem (just prior to His crucifixion) this is what they shouted: And the multitudes that went before, and that followed, cried, saying, Hosanna to the Son of David: Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord; Hosanna in the highest... And when the chief priests and scribes saw the wonderful things that he did, and the children crying in the temple, and saying, Hosanna to the Son of David; they were sore displeased...(Mat 21:9,15)

The Bible says that "for envy" Christ was condemned to death (Mt 27:18. Mark 15:10).
 

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So in this verse I partially understand how Jesus is laying the beginnings of introducing himself as the son of God. However what confused me was how he was arguing against himself being the son of David, because isn’t he a descendant of David? If anyone could clarify that would be wonderful.
Matthew 22:41-46: While the Pharisees were gathered together, Jesus asked them, saying, "What do you think about the Christ? Whose Son is He?" They said to Him, "The Son of David." He said to them, "How then does David in the Spirit call Him 'Lord,' saying: 'The LORD said to my Lord, "Sit at My right hand, Till I make Your enemies Your footstool" '? "If David then calls Him 'Lord,' how is He his Son?" And no one was able to answer Him a word, nor from that day on did anyone dare question Him anymore.

The Pharisees’ intention was to trick Jesus, but instead, Jesus made them look like fools who didn’t know the scriptures. In reality, it was through the seed of David that Jesus the Messiah would come, but His Father is the LORD.

—Selah
 

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True. But he will in fact be a "prince" over redeemed and restored Israel in the future, and Christ will be King of kings, and Lord of Lords. See Ezekiel's prophecy.

The virgin birth of Christ did not cancel His earthly descent as Jesus of Nazareth, who descended from Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Judah, David, and Solomon. Joseph being the legal descendant of Solomon made Christ His "son". Thus He also became the direct descendant of David (Mt 1:7-16).

So when the Jews greeted Christ in His triumphal entry into Jerusalem (just prior to His crucifixion) this is what they shouted: And the multitudes that went before, and that followed, cried, saying, Hosanna to the Son of David: Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord; Hosanna in the highest... And when the chief priests and scribes saw the wonderful things that he did, and the children crying in the temple, and saying, Hosanna to the Son of David; they were sore displeased...(Mat 21:9,15)

The Bible says that "for envy" Christ was condemned to death (Mt 27:18. Mark 15:10).
Yeah I wouldn’t disagree I think all of Gods people have places in n the eternal kingdom David certainly has his place

David actually being king over israel is part of this creation the promises are about the new one