Manifestations/persons difference
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I believe co-equal is a false narrative. I understand many may disagree with my opinion. No harm, no foul, that’s your privilege. I'm simply sharing my own thoughts on this topic & bible verses.
1st, scripture proclaims: The Father, Son & Holy Spirit are all God.
Father is God: Jn 6:27, Rom 1:7, 1 Pet 1:2
Son is God: Isa 7:14 & 9:6, Micah 5:2, Matt 1:23, Jn 1:1 & 20:28, 1 Tim 3:16 Titus 2:13 Rom 9:5 Rev 1:8.
Holy Spirit is God: Ps 139:7-8, Acts 5:3-4 & 13:2, Eph 4:30, 1 Cor 2:10-11, 3:16, 12:4-7, 2 Cor 13:14
Jn 1:
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
(NOTE: Before the flash point of creation. The Word/Son/Jesus was with God (The Father) and was/is also God)
3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
(NOTE: God-Pre-incarnate Christ MADE/CREATED ALL THINGS! Christ/God the Son is the Genesis 1 creator)
Col 1:
16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:
(NOTE: Christ CREATED ALL THINGS! God the Son/Christ/Jesus is our worlds Genesis 1 creator)
17 And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.
(NOTE: Christ HOLDS ALL THINGS TOGETHER!)
Heb 1:2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;
(NOTE: Christ MADE THE WORLDS! God the Son/Christ/Jesus is the Genesis 1 creator)
God the Son pre-existed prior to his incarnation & Jesus the Son is: God our Creator:
Jn:
6:38 For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me.
(NOTE: God the Son/Jesus say's; I was sent from heaven by the God the Father. Before the flash point of creation, God Father gives/sends the Son. Here God the Son begins the work of reconciliton & salvation.)
6:62 What and if ye shall see the Son of man ascend up where he was before?
(NOTE: We see the Son of man (Christ in the flesh) ascend (Acts 1:9-12). Going back to where he pre-existed)
Jn 8:23 Jesus said unto them, Ye are from beneath; I am from above: ye are of this world; I am not of this world.
(NOTE: The SON of God/Jesus say's, he's started from above & not from this world)
Jn 16:28 Jesus said, I came forth from the Father, and am come into the world: again, I leave the world, and go to the Father
(NOTE: The SON of God/Jesus say's, He came from the Father (did he leave himself?) He will return to the Father. Although, The Son is SPIRITUALLY ONE, WITH, he's NOT, the Father)
Jn 17:5 O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.
(NOTE: Before the world began, the Son, enjoyed glory "WITH" the Father. "NOT AS" the Father)
KJV Dictionary Definition: BOSOM
Bosom, in composition, implies intimacy, affection and confidence; as a bosom-friend, an intimate or confidential friend; bosom-lover, bosom-interest, bosom-secret, etc
Before the world began! The Son lived in """GLORY"" in the """Bosom""" of the Father:
Jn 1:18 No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the """bosom of the Father""".
(NOTE: I submitt to you, neither the Father or Son, are having an intimate relationship one's self. PUN INTENDED)
SPIRITUAL ONENESS: Begins with & proceeds from, the Father. Who IS NOT the Son!
Jn 10:30 I and my Father are one.
(NOTE: SPIRITUALLY ONE)
Jn 10:38 But if I do, though ye believe not me, believe the works: that ye may know, and believe, that the Father is in me, and I in him.
(NOTE: SPIRITUAL ONENESS)
Jn 14:10 Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.
(NOTE: SPIRITUAL ONENESS)
Jn 14:11 Believe me that I am in the Father, and the Father in me: or else believe me for the very works' sake.
(NOTE: SPIRITUAL ONENESS)
Jn 14:20 At that day ye shall know that I am in my Father, and ye in me, and I in you.
Jn 17:21 That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.
(NOTE: SPIRITUAL ONENESS, HERE AGAIN, THOSE THAT HAVE BEEN INDEWLT WITH THE HOLY SPIRIT ARE INCLUDED)
Additional context:
Rom 12:5 So we, being many, are one body in Christ, and every one members one of another.
(NOTE: Does one body = one person? NO! The millions/billions = ONE SPIRITUAL BODY)
Eph 5:23 For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body.
(NOTE: Christ is the head of the church: He is the saviour of a NUMEROUS SPIRITUAL BODY ""OF ONE"")
1 Cor 11:3 But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.
(NOTE: The HEAD of Christ, is God the the Father)
Scripture porclaims 4 TIMES: ""God the Father"" said to ""God the Son"" Sit at my right hand.
Ps 110:1 A Psalm of David. The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool.
Matt 22:44 The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand, till I make thine enemies thy footstool?
Luk 20:42 And David himself saith in the book of Psalms, The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand,
Act 2:34 For David is not ascended into the heavens: but he saith himself, The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand,
(NOTE: He ISN'T talking to HIMSELF!)
When Jesus prays to the Father:
1) IS HE PRAYING TO HIMSELF?
John 14:28 Jesus say's, the Father is greater then him:
2) DID JESUS LIE HERE?
John 16:28 I came forth from the Father, and am come into the world: again, I leave the world, and go to the Father.
(NOTE: Jesus said: I came from the Father, I leave this world & return to the Father IS HE RETURNING TO HIMSELF?).
John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
(NOTE: The Father gave/sent the Son. HE DIDN'T SEND HIMSELF)
Heb 10:12 (B&C) after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God;
(This isn't the earthly Jesus. This is the risen/glorified Jesus. AND HE DOESN'T SIT DOWN NEXT TO HIMSELF?)
Rev 5:7 And he (VS 5 the Loin of the tribe of Juda, ve 6 the Lamb) came and took the book out of the right hand of him that sat upon the throne.
(Here again, this isn't the earthly Jesus. This is the risen/glorified Lamb/Jesus. HE DOESN'T TAKE THE BOOK OUT OF HIS OWN HAND!)
Rom 8:17 We're children, "heirs also", "heirs of God & fellow heirs with Christ
(NOTE: Believers are fellow heirs of God the Father with Christ. Is Christ/God an heir to himself?)
Heb 1:2 in these last days has spoken to us in His Son, whom He appointed heir of all things, thru whom also He made the world
(NOTE: The God the Father appointed God the Son HEIR. The Father owned it (though they are Both of the same Godly nature/substance/matter/essence (Phil 2:6). They didn't have a CO-EQUAL share. The Father gave/appointed the Son heir of ALL things within our realm)
Find 3 post resurrection verses where God the Son SAT DOWN at the right hand of God the Father Mk 16:19, Heb 1:3, Heb 10:12
God the Father sends God the Son:
Jn 3:16, 5:23, 30, 36 & 37, 6:38 & 39, 6:57, 8:42, 10;36, 12:49
God the Father gives to God the Son:
Jn 3:35, 5:22 & 26, 6:37&39, 10:29, 13:3 16:28
If the Father & Son are the same person, what's the point in any of the following verses? Everyone of these verses were written POST RESURRECTION!
Gal 1:1 & 3, Eph 6:23, Php 2:11, 1 Th 1:1, 2 Ti 1:2, Tit 1:4, 1 Pe 1:2, 2 Pe 1:17, 2 Jn 1:3, Jud 1:1 Jude
And finally: Pay special attention vs 28!
1 Corinthians 15:
24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.
25 For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet.
26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.
27 For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith all things are put under him, it is manifest that he is excepted, which did put all things under him.
28 And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.
When all is complete/fulfilled (after the white throne). The Son will what? SUBJECT, ALL THINGS INCLUDING HIMSELF, unto the Father, that gave them to him. In our universe/realm Christ will FOREVER remain King of Kings & Lord of Lords. Why? Because the Father, rewarded his just works. And has GIVEN ALL THINGS WITHIN OUR UNIVERSE TO HIM, FOREVER!
1st, scripture proclaims: The Father, Son & Holy Spirit are all God.
Father is God: Jn 6:27, Rom 1:7, 1 Pet 1:2
Son is God: Isa 7:14 & 9:6, Micah 5:2, Matt 1:23, Jn 1:1 & 20:28, 1 Tim 3:16 Titus 2:13 Rom 9:5 Rev 1:8.
Holy Spirit is God: Ps 139:7-8, Acts 5:3-4 & 13:2, Eph 4:30, 1 Cor 2:10-11, 3:16, 12:4-7, 2 Cor 13:14
Jn 1:
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
(NOTE: Before the flash point of creation. The Word/Son/Jesus was with God (The Father) and was/is also God)
3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
(NOTE: God-Pre-incarnate Christ MADE/CREATED ALL THINGS! Christ/God the Son is the Genesis 1 creator)
Col 1:
16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:
(NOTE: Christ CREATED ALL THINGS! God the Son/Christ/Jesus is our worlds Genesis 1 creator)
17 And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.
(NOTE: Christ HOLDS ALL THINGS TOGETHER!)
Heb 1:2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;
(NOTE: Christ MADE THE WORLDS! God the Son/Christ/Jesus is the Genesis 1 creator)
God the Son pre-existed prior to his incarnation & Jesus the Son is: God our Creator:
Jn:
6:38 For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me.
(NOTE: God the Son/Jesus say's; I was sent from heaven by the God the Father. Before the flash point of creation, God Father gives/sends the Son. Here God the Son begins the work of reconciliton & salvation.)
6:62 What and if ye shall see the Son of man ascend up where he was before?
(NOTE: We see the Son of man (Christ in the flesh) ascend (Acts 1:9-12). Going back to where he pre-existed)
Jn 8:23 Jesus said unto them, Ye are from beneath; I am from above: ye are of this world; I am not of this world.
(NOTE: The SON of God/Jesus say's, he's started from above & not from this world)
Jn 16:28 Jesus said, I came forth from the Father, and am come into the world: again, I leave the world, and go to the Father
(NOTE: The SON of God/Jesus say's, He came from the Father (did he leave himself?) He will return to the Father. Although, The Son is SPIRITUALLY ONE, WITH, he's NOT, the Father)
Jn 17:5 O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.
(NOTE: Before the world began, the Son, enjoyed glory "WITH" the Father. "NOT AS" the Father)
KJV Dictionary Definition: BOSOM
Bosom, in composition, implies intimacy, affection and confidence; as a bosom-friend, an intimate or confidential friend; bosom-lover, bosom-interest, bosom-secret, etc
Before the world began! The Son lived in """GLORY"" in the """Bosom""" of the Father:
Jn 1:18 No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the """bosom of the Father""".
(NOTE: I submitt to you, neither the Father or Son, are having an intimate relationship one's self. PUN INTENDED)
SPIRITUAL ONENESS: Begins with & proceeds from, the Father. Who IS NOT the Son!
Jn 10:30 I and my Father are one.
(NOTE: SPIRITUALLY ONE)
Jn 10:38 But if I do, though ye believe not me, believe the works: that ye may know, and believe, that the Father is in me, and I in him.
(NOTE: SPIRITUAL ONENESS)
Jn 14:10 Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.
(NOTE: SPIRITUAL ONENESS)
Jn 14:11 Believe me that I am in the Father, and the Father in me: or else believe me for the very works' sake.
(NOTE: SPIRITUAL ONENESS)
Jn 14:20 At that day ye shall know that I am in my Father, and ye in me, and I in you.
Jn 17:21 That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.
(NOTE: SPIRITUAL ONENESS, HERE AGAIN, THOSE THAT HAVE BEEN INDEWLT WITH THE HOLY SPIRIT ARE INCLUDED)
Additional context:
Rom 12:5 So we, being many, are one body in Christ, and every one members one of another.
(NOTE: Does one body = one person? NO! The millions/billions = ONE SPIRITUAL BODY)
Eph 5:23 For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body.
(NOTE: Christ is the head of the church: He is the saviour of a NUMEROUS SPIRITUAL BODY ""OF ONE"")
1 Cor 11:3 But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.
(NOTE: The HEAD of Christ, is God the the Father)
Scripture porclaims 4 TIMES: ""God the Father"" said to ""God the Son"" Sit at my right hand.
Ps 110:1 A Psalm of David. The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool.
Matt 22:44 The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand, till I make thine enemies thy footstool?
Luk 20:42 And David himself saith in the book of Psalms, The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand,
Act 2:34 For David is not ascended into the heavens: but he saith himself, The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand,
(NOTE: He ISN'T talking to HIMSELF!)
When Jesus prays to the Father:
1) IS HE PRAYING TO HIMSELF?
John 14:28 Jesus say's, the Father is greater then him:
2) DID JESUS LIE HERE?
John 16:28 I came forth from the Father, and am come into the world: again, I leave the world, and go to the Father.
(NOTE: Jesus said: I came from the Father, I leave this world & return to the Father IS HE RETURNING TO HIMSELF?).
John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
(NOTE: The Father gave/sent the Son. HE DIDN'T SEND HIMSELF)
Heb 10:12 (B&C) after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God;
(This isn't the earthly Jesus. This is the risen/glorified Jesus. AND HE DOESN'T SIT DOWN NEXT TO HIMSELF?)
Rev 5:7 And he (VS 5 the Loin of the tribe of Juda, ve 6 the Lamb) came and took the book out of the right hand of him that sat upon the throne.
(Here again, this isn't the earthly Jesus. This is the risen/glorified Lamb/Jesus. HE DOESN'T TAKE THE BOOK OUT OF HIS OWN HAND!)
Rom 8:17 We're children, "heirs also", "heirs of God & fellow heirs with Christ
(NOTE: Believers are fellow heirs of God the Father with Christ. Is Christ/God an heir to himself?)
Heb 1:2 in these last days has spoken to us in His Son, whom He appointed heir of all things, thru whom also He made the world
(NOTE: The God the Father appointed God the Son HEIR. The Father owned it (though they are Both of the same Godly nature/substance/matter/essence (Phil 2:6). They didn't have a CO-EQUAL share. The Father gave/appointed the Son heir of ALL things within our realm)
Find 3 post resurrection verses where God the Son SAT DOWN at the right hand of God the Father Mk 16:19, Heb 1:3, Heb 10:12
God the Father sends God the Son:
Jn 3:16, 5:23, 30, 36 & 37, 6:38 & 39, 6:57, 8:42, 10;36, 12:49
God the Father gives to God the Son:
Jn 3:35, 5:22 & 26, 6:37&39, 10:29, 13:3 16:28
If the Father & Son are the same person, what's the point in any of the following verses? Everyone of these verses were written POST RESURRECTION!
Gal 1:1 & 3, Eph 6:23, Php 2:11, 1 Th 1:1, 2 Ti 1:2, Tit 1:4, 1 Pe 1:2, 2 Pe 1:17, 2 Jn 1:3, Jud 1:1 Jude
And finally: Pay special attention vs 28!
1 Corinthians 15:
24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.
25 For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet.
26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.
27 For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith all things are put under him, it is manifest that he is excepted, which did put all things under him.
28 And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.
When all is complete/fulfilled (after the white throne). The Son will what? SUBJECT, ALL THINGS INCLUDING HIMSELF, unto the Father, that gave them to him. In our universe/realm Christ will FOREVER remain King of Kings & Lord of Lords. Why? Because the Father, rewarded his just works. And has GIVEN ALL THINGS WITHIN OUR UNIVERSE TO HIM, FOREVER!