Loss of salvation???

[GWH]

Yes. Paul talked about that, as you likely know. Israel will be restored after the Second Coming of Christ. The ten Virgins and other parables Jesus spoke about have nothing whatsoever to do with Gentiles in general, and yet false teachers of about every stripe of Protestantism and Evangelicalism continue to parrot the same old pig slop of replacement theology trash, thus showing their abject ignorance.

MM

Yes, Paul discussed that in the following pericopes:

39. Romans 11:11-15 speaks of the blindness of Israel as the reason salvation/election (s/e) was offered to Gentiles,
and Paul hopes Israel will become envious (v.11 & 14) and prompted to accept Christ.

40. Romans 11:17-24 describes the situation of Israel as comparable to grafting branches onto a tree, and the condition of faith (#37) is quite explicit (v.20-23).

41. Romans 11:25-32 explains the s/e of corporate Israel as a partial and temporary hardening until all in corporate Gentiles “may” be s/e, at which time all Israel “may” be s/e.

 

[GWH]

Yes. Paul talked about that, as you likely know. Israel will be restored after the Second Coming of Christ. The ten Virgins and other parables Jesus spoke about have nothing whatsoever to do with Gentiles in general, and yet false teachers of about every stripe of Protestantism and Evangelicalism continue to parrot the same old pig slop of replacement theology trash, thus showing their abject ignorance.

MM

Yes, Paul discussed that in the following pericopes:

39. Romans 11:11-15 speaks of the blindness of Israel as the reason salvation/election (s/e) was offered to Gentiles,
and Paul hopes Israel will become envious (v.11 & 14) and prompted to accept Christ.

40. Romans 11:17-24 describes the situation of Israel as comparable to grafting branches onto a tree, and the condition of faith (#37) is quite explicit (v.20-23).

41. Romans 11:25-32 explains the s/e of corporate Israel as a partial and temporary hardening until all in corporate Gentiles “may” be s/e, at which time all Israel “may” be s/e.

 

[Ouch]

Transference arrogance is a real thing.


Arrogance is the antithesis of grace, the total blindness to the grace of GOD.

Some deception going on here!!

If your going to quote me you really should mention it wasn't ME JUDGING OR SENDING PEOPLE TO HELL it was JESUS.

Matthew 7:21-23
King James Version
21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?

23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

Have YOU received the Holy Ghost you have believed?

How were you baptized?

Acts 19
King James Version
19 And it came to pass, that, while Apollos was at Corinth, Paul having passed through the upper coasts came to Ephesus: and finding certain disciples,

2 He said unto them, Have ye received the Holy Ghost since ye believed? And they said unto him, We have not so much as heard whether there be any Holy Ghost.

3 And he said unto them, Unto what then were ye baptized? And they said, Unto John's baptism.

4 Then said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus.

5 When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.

6 And when Paul had laid his hands upon them, the Holy Ghost came on them; and they spake with tongues, and prophesied.

 

[Kroogz]

Some deception going on here!!

Transference arrogance is a real thing.


Arrogance is the antithesis of grace, the total blindness to the grace of GOD.

 

[Ouch]

Transference arrogance is a real thing.


Arrogance is the antithesis of grace, the total blindness to the grace of GOD.

So nothing at all about YOU deceiving people?

Just in the seed business not all will accept his word.

You can see what happens to those who think they are saved and may have even worked for him his whole life.

John 3:5
King James Version
5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.

Acts 2:38-39
King James Version
38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

39 For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.

HEAVEN OR HELL YOUR CHOICE.

 

[Kroogz]

You can see what happens to those who think they are saved and may have even worked for him his whole life.

Yes. Yes I can.

 

[posthuman]

According to you maybe? I don't have a clue just hope the seeds I planted grow. The list I shared that is not bible is a long one.

Looking at his word there are a lot of fokes who THINKS they are reborn and ARE NOT!!!

Matthew 7:21-23

King James Version



21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

That is why I ask questions? Like have you received the Holy Ghost since you have believed?

How were you baptized?

Not many people bother to even answer? Wonder why?

as previously discussed, Matthew 7:21-23 describes people who thought their works would save them.

even amazing works, like the sign to unbelievers of spealing in tongues.

even righteous works of obedience, like being baptized.

they had no faith in Christ to save them - their faith was in what they themselves did.

 

[posthuman]

as previously discussed, Matthew 7:21-23 describes people who thought their works would save them.

even amazing works, like the sign to unbelievers of spealing in tongues.

even righteous works of obedience, like being baptized.

they had no faith in Christ to save them - their faith was in what they themselves did.

@Ouch looking back at this conversation, what have you boasted in?

the work of God or the things you have done?

and what have you demanded of others?
((others who all have the Spirit, have been reborn, and also baptized with water, btw))

that they do works of their own, and boast of them?
or that they believe in the work of God?

i have been content, and remain so.

 

[posthuman]

@Ouch

some human convinced you your child-like faith in Christ's work was worthless.
and convinced you your obedient baptism was worthless.

he convinced you you should go and preach to believers that their faith was worthless, their obedient baptism and their good conscience toward God were all worthless, and that they needed to seek material signs and wonders.


i disagree with that man.