looks like she entertained someone else

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Venn

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I wanted to make a new thread over this topic since no one else is replying to the other thread anymore. Here is the first part which is a lot longer but more specific:
https://christianchat.com/christian...g-to-a-born-again-church-for-4-months.188428/

for a TLDR version: I met a single mom on Tinder for 3 months. Said she was a new believer, we talked, had Bible studies, had some few laughs together, had some sharings with life as well, our exes. Then when we met up for the first time I sensed that her attitude kinda changed and then she kinda spewed venom at me for acting too clingly when we were not in a relationship yet.

After a few days, it felt like it was unfair on my part and told her that maybe all of this could have been avoided if we already did set boundaries for firsthand and maybe had a talk about our rules before you blew up like this? So what started as a calm reasoning turned to rant at her. And then she told me:

“Ven I apologize… it looks like you took some meaning over to what we have been doing. But I hope you are at peace now. I am still here… I have not ghosted you.”

I ignored those parts of the text and I kept saying things like, well maybe before we met you were having fantasies about what I really am and when you actually saw that I wasn’t this Knight in Shining Armor, you started being cold.

I told her how paranoid I was because all of the blame was on me and why she blew up like that with no warning since it was the first time she ranted like that...I even told her good thing I have my meds with me and was taking in my anxiety and kept it a secret to her so that she doesn't worry about me. Said it was a good thing that I wasn’t thinking of suicide or anything and then I blamed her a lot for making all worked up making me think where I went wrong.

She then asked if I was a Christian myself and told me if I am, she told me to pray like she always has in her prayers and told me to please ask for forgiveness from God because it feels like she doesn’t know me anymore.

What’s worse is that she told me this:

“Ven, as of right now only two things will happen… it’s either I go back to my old life or that I continue pursuing God… I prayed so hard that night and I knelt praying that you will be okay… but it looks like God didn’t answer my prayer… so maybe he isn’t real after all… so… to my Christian friends, including you… please don’t bother me anymore.”

I then saw myself as a hypocrite which caused her possible route to atheism and blamed myself to death over that night… I couldn’t sleep because I felt I was responsible for her shattered faith. I prayed so hard that night that I was desperate on what to do… panic attacks came and I had to take another Xanax again to make myself calm.

My real goal was: “Since I love this woman, I want her to be saved… I want her to be near to the Lord. She already has so many emotional traumas in life that I would want to help her… which is why I did Bible study sessions with her in the first place...I prayed to the Lord that even if she won’t become my girlfriend, I at least want her to be a shining light of beacon to those who don’t believe… like a Church Leader, a Missionary or better yet… a Pastor… her becoming my girlfriend will just be a bonus.”And for her to not believe God anymore would be my worst nightmare.

That night...I just had to press the emergency button. I called out to her best friend which was the reason why she was interested in becoming a Christian in the first place… I told her all about the story between us and she also told me she had stopped going to church for a month now and she was very disturbed about it. She thanked me for the info and that she knows what topic she will be speaking this time in their cell group… so at that time she just told me to pray and forgive myself which I did and she also prayed about the situation as well and told me not to tell her that I and her best friend were talking about her situation.

I woke up too early in the morning probably because of anxiety attacks and I kept on texting her about how sorry I was and then it felt like she was annoyed and called me instead:

“Why aren’t you sleeping? Have you been texting me all night? My God it feels like a Demon is entering me because of you! It’s a good thing I didn’t block you! No matter what you do, whether or not I will be pursuing God or not, it’s up to me and you can do nothing about it! I also am not looking for a boyfriend right now! You have said it all last night and you can’t take those words back anymore!”

“I can’t believe you are like this! I don’t like weak men. Also, why did you keep your meds a secret? Does this mean that whatever happens to you, I will be the one to answer for that? I have a child! Don’t you feel sorry for me? Your problem right now is so small, there are other things you are supposed to be worried about.”

So I just stood silent until she finished her sentences and I said “I’m sorry… I’ll pray for you and anything that has happened between us.”
“That’s a lot better! My God! You and my best friend are the only Christian friends that I have! I should be influenced by you guys! And to see that you are this weak makes me weak as well!”

I stood silent until she spoke after a few seconds: “I am going to the cell group this time… I hope God will listen to me this time”... and so she did.

Later that night she then gave me her last chat before I went no contact:
“I can't sleep. I'm thinking of all the people I've hurt unintentionally. Including you, I hope in time… you will give me peace of mind and forgiveness” and then she deactivated her Facebook.

So this is basically it… after around a week she reactivated her Facebook and have been going to a lot of events, like beaches, parties, karaoke… I can see that she is having a good time… I, on the other hand, have been more active in church and prayer and gave my family more time as well… we have been in no contact for a month.

A little later I noticed she has been using a change of clothes and using sexy styled clothing all of a sudden and then some dude who keeps commenting on her facebook and sending love reactions all over. I checked the dudes' facebook profile and she was sending heart likes as well and then they are telling each other what songs to play and stuff like that.

What's worse is: The guy is a Muslim or at least I believe he is because he has an Islamic name on his profile and a Non-Islamic name... so maybe a Half Muslim? So the guy is anything but Christ related: he drinks, smokes, has tattoos all over, ear piercings and goes to a lot of parties and discos and the Single mom just keeps on "heart reacting" his posts. Which leads me to believe they are dating.

This broke my heart even more... I was lead to believe she was looking for a Christian guy because that was what her dating profile is all about... now everything she says is kind of contradicting. But she still does go to church and share Bible verses in Facebook. The only thing that got me upset is why she is dating someone who is unequally yoked with her or that she is blinded by love or that this guy is so manly that she doesn't care if they are Christian or not.

So if you went to read all that, Congratulations! And Thank You for listening. I hope I have not wasted your time too much and if you did read all of that, I want you guys to also pray for her and for me that hopefully, she will not stray from her path.

God Bless.
 
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Locoponydirtman

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Move on. You ain't married, ya weren't even actually dating.

Look you seem a decent fellow, so why do you want to be hung up over a trifle. If she were to come back around she would be misery to your life.

This is going to sound mean but it's not. Put your heart back in your chest and sew the hole up and open up your head and apply your brain.

Oh and ya probably not gonna find a quality lady on hook up sites.
 

OneOfHis

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" I prayed so hard that night and I knelt praying that you will be okay… but it looks like God didn’t answer my prayer… so maybe he isn’t real after all… so… to my Christian friends, including you… please don’t bother me anymore.”

Sounds like you have been blessed to not get too close to someone who would try to use a supposed faith as a tool to gain or manipulate.


That is absolutely disgusting. Calling yourself a Christian when it suits you then using your "faith" as hostage to either guilt trip someone else into leave you alone or pretend to not be hurting due to your actions or suggest that God is some genie meant to bend to her will if He is real since she knows best....🙄


This type of person won't know what makes a good husband.... Don't feel like you lost anything....

You gained safety from what could have been a horrible outcome...
 
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Why would you want anything to do with this chick? Also, you have lots of personal issues you need to work on. Too much carry on baggage. Get rid of it.
 
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Sounds like a two faced psycho if you ask me. I think thats the type of woman that uses nice guys as a shoulder to cry on, but doesn't necessarily want to be with them. Pretty sure she was just messing with your mind and enjoys the drama. Quit worrying about her and find someone who actually cares about you
 

Venn

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" I prayed so hard that night and I knelt praying that you will be okay… but it looks like God didn’t answer my prayer… so maybe he isn’t real after all… so… to my Christian friends, including you… please don’t bother me anymore.”

Sounds like you have been blessed to not get too close to someone who would try to use a supposed faith as a tool to gain or manipulate.

That is absolutely disgusting. Calling yourself a Christian when it suits you then using your "faith" as hostage to either guilt trip someone else into leave you alone or pretend to not be hurting due to your actions or suggest that God is some genie meant to bend to her will if He is real since she knows best....🙄

This type of person won't know what makes a good husband.... Don't feel like you lost anything....

You gained safety from what could have been a horrible outcome...
she isn't yet baptized. which means she's no Christian yet. she was only attending church for 4 months... her faith is still very fragile...and once it is shattered... well... back to the old life.
 

OneOfHis

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she isn't yet baptized. which means she's no Christian yet. she was only attending church for 4 months... her faith is still very fragile...and once it is shattered... well... back to the old life.
Being baptized in water doesn't make one a Christian.

It is an outward act (of obedience) before men that represents and celebrates what God has done spiritually....

We are a Christian and made sons of God if we have faith in Jesus....


Biblical saving faith would mean she trusts in Christ for salvation with confidence and believes in Him as much as OF Him....

"Well my prayer that this person i hurt feels better wasnt instantly met with bending their will to want what i want so God is fake"

This isnt a fragile or shattered faith.... just lack of faith
 

OneOfHis

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Sorry to be so forward about that.... and that you had to go through this man... but I really do think separating from someone who would do that to you is actually a good thing...

Worrying about her well being and her faith is a good thing but feeling like you're to blame for anything she did or believes isn't.....
 

cinder

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I hope you have not wasted your time too much.
A. Right back at you.

B. When you ask for advice from trustworthy and impartial people and there's a definite consensus on it, follow that advice. You would have spared yourself a whole lot of hurt if you just stopped talking to her like we all said when we said to.

C. No one else is responsible for your behavior or your faith; and you are not responsible for anyone else's either.
 

Lynx

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"I wanted to make a new thread over this topic since no one else is replying to the other thread anymore."

D: if no one else is replying in the other thread anymore, it usually means either nobody else has anything else to say on the topic or everybody else has written the whole thing off as a lost cause and considers it futile to continue the conversation.

If you did not get the answers you wanted in the other thread, it probably means either you are looking for the wrong answers or everybody who replied in the other thread is totally wrong. Either way, starting a new thread is probably not going to get you what you are after.

Hmm... that seems kind of harsh the way I said it. But I am on lunch break and I don't have time to figure out a nicer way to say it.
 
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Susanna

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"I wanted to make a new thread over this topic since no one else is replying to the other thread anymore."

D: if no one else is replying in the other thread anymore, it usually means either nobody else has anything else to say on the topic or everybody else has written the whole thing off as a lost cause and considers it futile to continue the conversation.

If you did not get the answers you wanted in the other thread, it probably means either you are looking for the wrong answers or everybody who replied in the other thread is totally wrong. Either way, starting a new thread is probably not going to get you what you are after.

Hmm... that seems kind of harsh the way I said it. But I am on lunch break and I don't have time to figure out a nicer way to say it.
If I was to translate that into East Texas vernacular it would probably be something along the lines of “Tell your troubles to the moon and be on your way”😂.

Sorry😊.
 

Butterflyyy

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Proverbs 3 v 5&6....

Trust in the Lord with all of your heart and lean not on your own understanding.
In all your ways acknowledge Him and He will direct your paths.

Leave this behind you, put it down to experience; we know that all things work together for good to those who love God and are called according to His purposes.

Focus on the Lord;

Thou wilt keep him in perfect peace whose mind is stayed upon Thee because he trusteth in Thee.

Take every thought captive unto Christ.

Be anxious for nothing, but in everything by prayer and supplication, with thanksgiving, let your requests be made known to God; and the peace of God, which surpasses all understanding, will guard your hearts and minds through Christ Jesus.


Finally, brethren, whatever things are true, whatever things are noble, whatever things are just, whatever things are pure, whatever things are lovely, whatever things are of good report, if there is any virtue and if there is anything praiseworthy—meditate on these things. The things which you learned and received and heard and saw in me, these do, and the God of peace will be with you.

Cast all your care upon Him.

Let the peace of God rule in your heart.

Keep the whole armour of God on in Ephesians 6. God has work for us to do; we don't need to be distracted.

God bless
 

BrotherMike

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Proverbs 3 v 5&6....

Trust in the Lord with all of your heart and lean not on your own understanding.
In all your ways acknowledge Him and He will direct your paths.

Leave this behind you, put it down to experience; we know that all things work together for good to those who love God and are called according to His purposes.

Focus on the Lord;

Thou wilt keep him in perfect peace whose mind is stayed upon Thee because he trusteth in Thee.

Take every thought captive unto Christ.

Be anxious for nothing, but in everything by prayer and supplication, with thanksgiving, let your requests be made known to God; and the peace of God, which surpasses all understanding, will guard your hearts and minds through Christ Jesus.


Finally, brethren, whatever things are true, whatever things are noble, whatever things are just, whatever things are pure, whatever things are lovely, whatever things are of good report, if there is any virtue and if there is anything praiseworthy—meditate on these things. The things which you learned and received and heard and saw in me, these do, and the God of peace will be with you.

Cast all your care upon Him.

Let the peace of God rule in your heart.

Keep the whole armour of God on in Ephesians 6. God has work for us to do; we don't need to be distracted.

God bless

So much wisdom in this post!
 

BrotherMike

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If you are still struggling with the advice given, I suggest a Christian counselor to share your feelings so they can give you advice on how to move forward. I agree with the advice here that you should move on... way too much drama in your life that you don't need. Keep your eyes on Jesus for wisdom and direction!
 

Mel85

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I wanted to make a new thread over this topic since no one else is replying to the other thread anymore. Here is the first part which is a lot longer but more specific:
https://christianchat.com/christian...g-to-a-born-again-church-for-4-months.188428/

for a TLDR version: I met a single mom on Tinder for 3 months. Said she was a new believer, we talked, had Bible studies, had some few laughs together, had some sharings with life as well, our exes. Then when we met up for the first time I sensed that her attitude kinda changed and then she kinda spewed venom at me for acting too clingly when we were not in a relationship yet.

After a few days, it felt like it was unfair on my part and told her that maybe all of this could have been avoided if we already did set boundaries for firsthand and maybe had a talk about our rules before you blew up like this? So what started as a calm reasoning turned to rant at her. And then she told me:

“Ven I apologize… it looks like you took some meaning over to what we have been doing. But I hope you are at peace now. I am still here… I have not ghosted you.”

I ignored those parts of the text and I kept saying things like, well maybe before we met you were having fantasies about what I really am and when you actually saw that I wasn’t this Knight in Shining Armor, you started being cold.

I told her how paranoid I was because all of the blame was on me and why she blew up like that with no warning since it was the first time she ranted like that...I even told her good thing I have my meds with me and was taking in my anxiety and kept it a secret to her so that she doesn't worry about me. Said it was a good thing that I wasn’t thinking of suicide or anything and then I blamed her a lot for making all worked up making me think where I went wrong.

She then asked if I was a Christian myself and told me if I am, she told me to pray like she always has in her prayers and told me to please ask for forgiveness from God because it feels like she doesn’t know me anymore.

What’s worse is that she told me this:

“Ven, as of right now only two things will happen… it’s either I go back to my old life or that I continue pursuing God… I prayed so hard that night and I knelt praying that you will be okay… but it looks like God didn’t answer my prayer… so maybe he isn’t real after all… so… to my Christian friends, including you… please don’t bother me anymore.”

I then saw myself as a hypocrite which caused her possible route to atheism and blamed myself to death over that night… I couldn’t sleep because I felt I was responsible for her shattered faith. I prayed so hard that night that I was desperate on what to do… panic attacks came and I had to take another Xanax again to make myself calm.

My real goal was: “Since I love this woman, I want her to be saved… I want her to be near to the Lord. She already has so many emotional traumas in life that I would want to help her… which is why I did Bible study sessions with her in the first place...I prayed to the Lord that even if she won’t become my girlfriend, I at least want her to be a shining light of beacon to those who don’t believe… like a Church Leader, a Missionary or better yet… a Pastor… her becoming my girlfriend will just be a bonus.”And for her to not believe God anymore would be my worst nightmare.

That night...I just had to press the emergency button. I called out to her best friend which was the reason why she was interested in becoming a Christian in the first place… I told her all about the story between us and she also told me she had stopped going to church for a month now and she was very disturbed about it. She thanked me for the info and that she knows what topic she will be speaking this time in their cell group… so at that time she just told me to pray and forgive myself which I did and she also prayed about the situation as well and told me not to tell her that I and her best friend were talking about her situation.

I woke up too early in the morning probably because of anxiety attacks and I kept on texting her about how sorry I was and then it felt like she was annoyed and called me instead:

“Why aren’t you sleeping? Have you been texting me all night? My God it feels like a Demon is entering me because of you! It’s a good thing I didn’t block you! No matter what you do, whether or not I will be pursuing God or not, it’s up to me and you can do nothing about it! I also am not looking for a boyfriend right now! You have said it all last night and you can’t take those words back anymore!”

“I can’t believe you are like this! I don’t like weak men. Also, why did you keep your meds a secret? Does this mean that whatever happens to you, I will be the one to answer for that? I have a child! Don’t you feel sorry for me? Your problem right now is so small, there are other things you are supposed to be worried about.”

So I just stood silent until she finished her sentences and I said “I’m sorry… I’ll pray for you and anything that has happened between us.”
“That’s a lot better! My God! You and my best friend are the only Christian friends that I have! I should be influenced by you guys! And to see that you are this weak makes me weak as well!”

I stood silent until she spoke after a few seconds: “I am going to the cell group this time… I hope God will listen to me this time”... and so she did.

Later that night she then gave me her last chat before I went no contact:
“I can't sleep. I'm thinking of all the people I've hurt unintentionally. Including you, I hope in time… you will give me peace of mind and forgiveness” and then she deactivated her Facebook.

So this is basically it… after around a week she reactivated her Facebook and have been going to a lot of events, like beaches, parties, karaoke… I can see that she is having a good time… I, on the other hand, have been more active in church and prayer and gave my family more time as well… we have been in no contact for a month.

A little later I noticed she has been using a change of clothes and using sexy styled clothing all of a sudden and then some dude who keeps commenting on her facebook and sending love reactions all over. I checked the dudes' facebook profile and she was sending heart likes as well and then they are telling each other what songs to play and stuff like that.

What's worse is: The guy is a Muslim or at least I believe he is because he has an Islamic name on his profile and a Non-Islamic name... so maybe a Half Muslim? So the guy is anything but Christ related: he drinks, smokes, has tattoos all over, ear piercings and goes to a lot of parties and discos and the Single mom just keeps on "heart reacting" his posts. Which leads me to believe they are dating.

This broke my heart even more... I was lead to believe she was looking for a Christian guy because that was what her dating profile is all about... now everything she says is kind of contradicting. But she still does go to church and share Bible verses in Facebook. The only thing that got me upset is why she is dating someone who is unequally yoked with her or that she is blinded by love or that this guy is so manly that she doesn't care if they are Christian or not.

So if you went to read all that, Congratulations! And Thank You for listening. I hope I have not wasted your time too much and if you did read all of that, I want you guys to also pray for her and for me that hopefully, she will not stray from her path.

God Bless.
Honestly, I don’t know why you’re wasting your time and energy hung over this woman who is clearly not interested in you romantically, and clearly she has some things she needs to work on.

The first thread you posted about this had obvious advice warning you to not pursue her, then you write another LONG as post complaining that she and some other dude are together (and yes I read the whole post).

I’m not one to beat around the bush, so I’m only gonna say this once - she is not interested in you so move on bro.
 

laughingheart

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Hi Venn. I will say these things as a sister in Christ.
I think that the thing that first caught my attention was that she was a new Christian. If someone is new then our goal is to be a support. It is not advisable to get involved in a romantic relationship with someone who is new to the faith. Missionary dating may be a thing in Christian romance novels but it is not wise in real life.
She needs time to grow. She is not ready for that and has no understanding as to how to be a Christian partner. Her old understanding of relationships and how they are lived out has not had time to adjust. She cannot be what you need. If you love her, love her enough to put her relationship with Christ as the #1 priority. Dating can play havoc with that. Trying to mold her, and pardon me for saying this, but for your own needs and purposes is not what she needs. I think you can see, in how things have gone so far, that trying to have a relationship with her is a mess. Her comments,
“Ven, as of right now only two things will happen… it’s either I go back to my old life or that I continue pursuing God… I prayed so hard that night and I knelt praying that you will be okay… but it looks like God didn’t answer my prayer… so maybe he isn’t real after all… so… to my Christian friends, including you… please don’t bother me anymore.”
are a sign of her immaturity and lack of understanding of most areas of the faith. I would say you need to connect her with a strong woman of the faith, a mentor, who can walk beside her. She lacks teaching and understanding.
She was honest with you. She was praying for you, asking that you be okay, and you obviously told her you were not. She needs to be relieved of whatever burden she was given regarding your well being.
She is new and overwhelmed. Be a good friend to her and step back as a suitor.
 
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Here's my synopsis of the situation....

1) You are harboring a very unhealthy emotional attachment to this woman and it is causing you to mess with her head by trying to lay this guilt trip on her, and you are jealous of this new man in her life even though she is not your gf. I'm not saying you're a stalker, but that is how stalkers think.

2) She is trying hard to cut ties with you respectfully without being blunt or hurting your feelings.
 

Subhumanoidal

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First thread... Fool me once shame on you.
Second thread... Fool me twice shame on me.
 

blueluna5

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As someone who has gone through a number of breakups and lost friendships here is my advice.

When you first find out the relationship is over immediately stop talking to them other than simple language. "Oh okay" etc. If that's too much stop talking and give yourself a week. This is meant as a gift to yourself. The problem is when your emotions are involved you don't behave logically. You may be a very logical person in real life, but the actions won't show that. Emotions make your frontal cortex shut off in your brain and is scientifically proven to shut off your logic. This is why when people scream in anger they eventually stop making sense.

Loss and break ups are just a part of life unfortunately. Take a day off to"mourn" if it's a long relationship. Distract yourself for a week, and go back into your routine.

You are not responsible for another adult, nor is she responsible for your current state. We are only responsible for ourselves. Breakups are meant to be painful. Accept that and move on.

From a spiritual perspective people rarely lead their girlfriend or boyfriend to Christ. That is because the physical need overpowers the spiritual since we sin...I think you know what I'm saying with that. The opposite tends to happen actually and she would pull you away from God which is probably why he made the relationship end.

Which leads me to the last point. God actually gives and takes away when it comes to relationships as well. This is based on different things like what you need and the other person. Their heart will appear hardened, and it's because it is. Also God is the only one who saves. You just help lead that person, and you did with Bible study. So the guilt you mentioned is false guilt. That tends to happen as well during these situations.