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I think that a lot of men struggle with modesty too actually. It's a big issue for both genders.
While I admire much about the Amish lifestyle, and while I agree modesty is priceless and beautiful in the eyes of God, I think it harsh to wave the brush over appreciating attractiveness. But again, I'm a female, so I imagine my speaking is inappropriate to you.
I think that a lot of men struggle with modesty too actually. It's a big issue for both genders.
Modesty is not a trait for men, but plainness is (within the context of appearance). And again both are profoundly beautiful.
Can you describe some immodest things you see men doing or wearing?
That's interesting, since as far as we know, Eve was stark naked prior to the fall, and afterward, was still just clothed in the barest of coverings. Having worked directly with Sex Offenders for nearly a quarter of a century, I can tell you the issue of modesty and lust is far more in the mind of the man and his desire to see something than how many square inches of skin a woman either does, or doesn't, cover with a drab dress.It's amusing that (some) women think they are being attacked when told that it's probably not in their best interest or the interest of everyone else to dress like wh*res or in a sexually attractive way and instead focus on being modest in appearance, which good Christian men prefer anyway. My position is literally a paternal one born from love. I want women to be their best and the same for men. We are made in God's image, not Vanity Fair's.
I guess it goes all the way back to Eve.
It's amusing that (some) women think they are being attacked when told that it's probably not in their best interest or the interest of everyone else to dress like wh*res or in a sexually attractive way and instead focus on being modest in appearance, which good Christian men prefer anyway. My position is literally a paternal one born from love. I want women to be their best and the same for men. We are made in God's image, not Vanity Fair's.
I guess it goes all the way back to Eve.
An example of forum behavioral immodesty, please?I wonder if men are unaware of instances in which men are immodest come to these conclusions simply because they don't have the experiences women have.
Now of course, this is against the rules so I am NOT telling anyone to try this, but I would almost guarantee that if the men who think modesty isn't an issue for men were to pose as a woman in the chatroom here for just one week, they would experience a whole host of immodest behavior, all from men who said they were Christians.
I am certainly NOT saying all guys are like this at all! In fact, having to deal with such behavior makes me appreciate a guy with solid morals all the more.
An example of forum behavioral immodesty, please?
Thank you.I've had several female friends here who are married/attached, but men try to talk to them anyway.
And an almost sure sign is when someone approaches you in chat to ask if you have whatever social media site they're trying to lure you to instead of just talking through the CC chat.
If the person hasn't taken any time at all to get to know you, or even bothered to check your profile (in which it might clearly say the user is married), you can almost bet that if you follow that person to another site, they are going to try to engage you in some pretty immodest talk/exchange of images.
And it's certainly not just on CC.
I'm guessing anyone with a decent amount of time and experience online has encountered this.
I wonder if men are unaware of instances in which men are immodest come to these conclusions simply because they don't have the experiences women have.
Now of course, this is against the rules so I am NOT telling anyone to try this, but I would almost guarantee that if the men who think modesty isn't an issue for men were to pose as a woman in the chatroom here for just one week, they would experience a whole host of immodest behavior, all from men who said they were Christians.
I am certainly NOT saying all guys are like this at all! In fact, having to deal with such behavior makes me appreciate a guy with solid morals all the more.
I’m having a disconnect of what you are saying “Christian men” are doing in relation to modesty. Those people are acting grimy. Lol
I am referring to a righteous man and what would be considered immodest for him? Are we talking a v neck (showing upper pecs), short sleeves that show bicep development, or short shorts showing them calve gains? Lol
Can you describe some immodest things you see men doing or wearing?
It is vain and immodest to post pictures of those woman as examples of beautiful ladies.At the core of Christianity is beauty. All of this talk about what is "hot" and "sexy" is pretty degenerate tbh. I think modesty and plainness are much more beautiful. The Amish and Eastern Orthodox get it right imho
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I happen to like you (one of only a handful I can say that about) So, I hope you know this 74 year-old man isn't hitting on you.
BUT...… If anyone here (male or female) chooses to go to your own profile, (It is VERY interesting.) I think you know the impression they would come away with. Your avatar statement further reinforces that.
Would I be a Sleaze for sensing "encouragement" after reading those things that you have written for all of us to read?
Personally, I think your profile comments are fine. But if you are going to tell others not to get cutesy in their profiles, then you have sort of roped yourself into the unpleasant situation of (figuratively) having to dress as an Amish online.Interesting point, Ghoti.
I honestly never even thought about what I had written as being suggestive.
For any of you who haven't read my profile (which I will probably change), I invite people to leave a message and say that I'm just an ordinary girl who asks the things most people think about but are too afraid to ask.
Here is my perspective when I wrote it:
I've been on CC for a while, and I come and go as my life waxes and wanes, which is why I say, "Feel free to leave a message." There are some people I've lost touch with here and I wanted to encourage them to leave me a way to contact them if they wanted.
Now, the part about being an ordinary girl (which I am) who thinks about the things others probably think about but are too afraid to ask -- I've written several threads here with varying themes that people found to be controversial, because I'm often questioning the cookie-cutter answers I was given in church. Because of that, many people have written me and said, "I've always wondered that too, I just never wanted to risk asking."
However, I can see where someone might take it the wrong way.
I'm going to erase what I have there until I can think of a better description.
Personally, I think your profile comments are fine. But if you are going to tell others not to get cutesy in their profiles, then you have sort of roped yourself into the unpleasant situation of (figuratively) having to dress as an Amish online.
Many Amish sects reject the use of modern eyeglass frames to use your example but they also reject the internet which imo is a good thing....it's complicated but there are obvious things we can do to reject modernity. I think how people dress, keeping in mind modesty and plainness, is a good start.
I take the spiritual war we are in very seriously. Satan wants our women "sexy" I want them "modest". Many Christians have forgotten we are even in this war. I'm with Jesus.