KING JAMES VERSION BIBLE VS. MODERN ENGLISH BIBLES
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The Apostles' Creed is not "fundamental" because it is in turn based on the foundation of Scripture.
I used both adjectives with "and" quite intentionally.
Why do you think its based on Scripture and not on apostolic teaching?
It seems to me that you think that Scriptures are our goal and the center of our life.
I think that God is our goal and Scriptures are used for proving, correction etc. Of course that apostles and Christ used Scriptures. I do use Scriptures, too.
Oh dear! That's quite extreme. How far is this going to go? A new sect of weirdos? The problem is it makes it look to the world like all Christians are bonkers. How can one honestly sell that when witnessing? "You must believe in The Lord Jesus Christ AND learn antiquated English to be saved."
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The KJV is giving you overwhelming evidence that there are 2 Ahaziah's and 2 Jehoram's. 2 ages for the beginning of their reign, 2 start of reign dates, one Ahaziah that died and one that's alive.
The more we discuss this, more evidence of 2 Ahaziah's keeps coming up. Keep in mind that "son" doesn't necessarily mean an immediate son, it sometimes means grand father etc. The same with mother.
Oh Good!For the record the site is satirical.
I was getting ready to go out and didn't click on the link. Duh!
........and LOL
I'm shaking my head at this. There is no evidence of two different kings of Judah named Ahaziah. There were two kings named Ahaziah, but one was king of Israel, and only one was king of Judah. The contradiction still stands.
If you see evidence for two of Judah, other than the two different ages, you're welcome to post it. Non-evidential comments don't add anything at this point.
...............JUDAH...................................................................ISRAEL
...............Asa........................................................................Ahab
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...........Jehoshaphat..............................................................Amaziah
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.............Jehoram (joram)..............................................Jehoram (Joram) 2Ki 8:25 son (grandson) of Ahab
................|.......................................................................__________ In Hebrew בֶן can mean son or grandson
.............Ahaziah.........................................................................Jehu
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.............Joash............................................................................Jehoahaz
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............Amaziah (Ozias Mt 1:8)......................................................Jehoash (Joash)
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............Azariah...........................................................................Jeroboam
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.............Jotham (son (grandson of Ozias Mat 1:9)............................Zachariah
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Do you have excel on your machine? I have it at work but not at home. One should be able to type into columns in an excel spreadsheet then cut & paste into the forum.
I just realized that Azariah in 2 Chronicles 23:1 is actually the son of Jeroham and not Jehoram.
For the record the site is satirical.
Yeah, when I was checking into it I ran across an article on the same site saying that the 2018 US spending bill contained a secret clause giving Trump 30 million to pay off former mistresses - Fake news!
https://hoax-alert.leadstories.com/...-million-for-paying-off-trump-mistresses.html
I understood you as suggesting that the early church assembled without much use or need of scriptures. The scripture tells us that scripture is vital. When Jesus said...trofimus said:
John 6:63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.
64 But there are some of you that believe not. For Jesus knew from the beginning who they were that believed not, and who should betray him.
He proved the intimate connection of his words with our spirit and life.
That means God’s words are vital.
English simply has to be updated sometimes. You can't read these KJ verses aloud in church!
They're not decent I tell thee.
Jos 9:4
They did work wilily, and went and made as if they had been ambassadors, and took old sacks upon their asses, and wine bottles, old, and rent, and bound up;
1Sa 8:16
And he will take your menservants, and your maidservants, and your goodliest young men, and your asses, and put them to his work.
1Sa 9:3
And the asses of Kish Saul's father were lost. And Kish said to Saul his son, Take now one of the servants with thee, and arise, go seek the asses.
2Sa 16:2
And the king said unto Ziba, What meanest thou by these? And Ziba said, The asses be for the king's household to ride on; and the bread and summer fruit for the young men to eat; and the wine, that such as be faint in the wilderness may drink.
2Ki 4:22
And she called unto her husband, and said, Send me, I pray thee, one of the young men, and one of the asses, that I may run to the man of God, and come again.
They're not decent I tell thee.
Jos 9:4
They did work wilily, and went and made as if they had been ambassadors, and took old sacks upon their asses, and wine bottles, old, and rent, and bound up;
1Sa 8:16
And he will take your menservants, and your maidservants, and your goodliest young men, and your asses, and put them to his work.
1Sa 9:3
And the asses of Kish Saul's father were lost. And Kish said to Saul his son, Take now one of the servants with thee, and arise, go seek the asses.
2Sa 16:2
And the king said unto Ziba, What meanest thou by these? And Ziba said, The asses be for the king's household to ride on; and the bread and summer fruit for the young men to eat; and the wine, that such as be faint in the wilderness may drink.
2Ki 4:22
And she called unto her husband, and said, Send me, I pray thee, one of the young men, and one of the asses, that I may run to the man of God, and come again.
English simply has to be updated sometimes. You can't read these KJ verses aloud in church!
They're not decent I tell thee.
Jos 9:4
They did work wilily, and went and made as if they had been ambassadors, and took old sacks upon their asses, and wine bottles, old, and rent, and bound up;
1Sa 8:16
And he will take your menservants, and your maidservants, and your goodliest young men, and your asses, and put them to his work.
1Sa 9:3
And the asses of Kish Saul's father were lost. And Kish said to Saul his son, Take now one of the servants with thee, and arise, go seek the asses.
2Sa 16:2
And the king said unto Ziba, What meanest thou by these? And Ziba said, The asses be for the king's household to ride on; and the bread and summer fruit for the young men to eat; and the wine, that such as be faint in the wilderness may drink.
2Ki 4:22
And she called unto her husband, and said, Send me, I pray thee, one of the young men, and one of the asses, that I may run to the man of God, and come again.
Soooo when the world perverts biblical words, we need to update the words of the bible so not to offend? That's crazy talk. Should we change the name of Jesus because it's offensive to some? Not a chance.