Kenneth Copeland recants and returns to Catholicism!
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When John Henry Newman switched from being a Protestant Anglican minister to a Roman Catholic priest (and eventually a Cardinal), if people had been watching his doctrine carefully they would have seen that he was already teaching a Roman Catholic version of justification.
Similarly with other people; if what is being taught is not firmly rooted in what Scripture actually says, people may well feel drawn to outwardly attractive organized religion. There is a lot in Roman Catholicism that seems to appeal to people naturally.
Similarly with other people; if what is being taught is not firmly rooted in what Scripture actually says, people may well feel drawn to outwardly attractive organized religion. There is a lot in Roman Catholicism that seems to appeal to people naturally.
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revelations 17:5
[SUP]5 [/SUP]And upon her forehead was a name written, Mystery, Babylon The Great, The Mother Of Harlots And Abominations Of The Earth.
the bible clearly states that the harlot daughters shall return back unto their whorish mother in these last days... any guesses who the harlot daughters are and who their whorish mother is???
anyone....
much love and god bless.
[SUP]5 [/SUP]And upon her forehead was a name written, Mystery, Babylon The Great, The Mother Of Harlots And Abominations Of The Earth.
the bible clearly states that the harlot daughters shall return back unto their whorish mother in these last days... any guesses who the harlot daughters are and who their whorish mother is???
anyone....
much love and god bless.
While I think Kenneth Copeland is a total and absolute heretic, this video in no way proves he is Catholic. Ecumenical, yes! Catholic, no!
I remember back masking was used in the 1980's to scare people to death about rock and roll. Except you can make back-masking sound like anything you want. Which it did. Who uses such nonsense over 30 years later???
Unless he says in English, moving forward on the video "I recant my Word Faith beliefs" (Now that would be great!) "and I am now a Catholic!" (Not so great!) I do not believe this video in any way shape or form.
I do see that the charismatic movement has made huge inroads in the Catholic and Anglican churches. And unity at the expense of good doctrine, I agree is just wrong.
For anyone wondering if you should watch this video, I would say it is not worth the 6+ minutes. It is cut up, it could say anything between the lines spoken, and besides, who cares what Kenneth Copeland does? He killed a good friend of mine with his Health and Wealth gospel, and for that reason alone (his theology, not my friend!) we should shun the lies of this false minister of his own lying gospel.
I remember back masking was used in the 1980's to scare people to death about rock and roll. Except you can make back-masking sound like anything you want. Which it did. Who uses such nonsense over 30 years later???
Unless he says in English, moving forward on the video "I recant my Word Faith beliefs" (Now that would be great!) "and I am now a Catholic!" (Not so great!) I do not believe this video in any way shape or form.
I do see that the charismatic movement has made huge inroads in the Catholic and Anglican churches. And unity at the expense of good doctrine, I agree is just wrong.
For anyone wondering if you should watch this video, I would say it is not worth the 6+ minutes. It is cut up, it could say anything between the lines spoken, and besides, who cares what Kenneth Copeland does? He killed a good friend of mine with his Health and Wealth gospel, and for that reason alone (his theology, not my friend!) we should shun the lies of this false minister of his own lying gospel.
Hello there highwayman,
me and thousands of other King James Bible believers have a perfect, absolute Final Authority. And that is the Holy Scripture: The Authorized King James Holy Bible.
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And we Bible believers understand that the main cause for the great falling away and apostasy is the modern versions, which are nothing more than Satanic counterfeits which come from the Vatican.
And ever since these counterfeits started being published, things started falling apart for this nation. And as a result, Christianity as a whole lost its power.
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and you will give account to God for editing videos and inserting your own satanic filled propaganda lies....I know some folks that were in this video, which means they were there and it's funny , that Kenny boy never said the word recant...EVER
So whose spreading lies around Bible Believer.....
Like I said, I don't agree with Kenny nor his ecumenical push, but you guys also outright lie to people to push your own brand of religious heresy and destruction upon the body.
2 wrongs dont make it right bible believer... Before posting such outright forgery, you should probably check your sources....
What will relaly be funny is wathcing you guys cry and call him an apostate when he sues your pants off for Libel and actually wins...after all everyone knows the Bible Beleivers are zealous defenders of their faith, but are not very smart...brainwashing takes a toll I know...It took my family years to wash that Bible believer foolishness and heresy out of their heads and hearts...
Do you guys still beleive ole Lester Roloff was the man!?!?
So whose spreading lies around Bible Believer.....
Like I said, I don't agree with Kenny nor his ecumenical push, but you guys also outright lie to people to push your own brand of religious heresy and destruction upon the body.
2 wrongs dont make it right bible believer... Before posting such outright forgery, you should probably check your sources....
What will relaly be funny is wathcing you guys cry and call him an apostate when he sues your pants off for Libel and actually wins...after all everyone knows the Bible Beleivers are zealous defenders of their faith, but are not very smart...brainwashing takes a toll I know...It took my family years to wash that Bible believer foolishness and heresy out of their heads and hearts...
Do you guys still beleive ole Lester Roloff was the man!?!?
Hi there Farouk, great question.
Well before 1611, the saints had the Geneva Bible. And if you want to go alittle further back, the following English Bibles were also available:
*Bishop's Bible
*The Great Bible
*Taverner's Bible
*Matthew's Bible
*Coverdale's Bible
*Tyndale's Bible
Therefore the saints did indeed have access to God's word before the time of 1611.
And regarding Christians who speak foreign languages. There are reliable foreign translations that are available. And they are those translations which have been translated from the same Hebrew and Greek texts which the Authorized King James Holy Bible is based upon.
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Be careful brother, we don't want to bring up something like say oh I don't know the 1599 Geneva Bible , it causes Bible Believing AKJV guys like guys head to explode....because they are brainwahsed into thinking that there was not another mass produced English translated Bible for the masses prior to the Good ole 1611 KJV.
I watched a live when a group of Bible Believers were challenged with a Geneva 1599 and people almost died...so sad they make a version GOD.
I watched a live when a group of Bible Believers were challenged with a Geneva 1599 and people almost died...so sad they make a version GOD.
So what are you saying here? Are you saying that you and your family used to be Bible believers, but now are no longer Bible believers???
If that is what you are saying, well then shame on you.
Brother Lester Roloff was a good, godly, preacher and man who stood for the truth. He preached on holiness and righteousness and he preached strongly against sin. And best of all, he believed the BOOK. He was a King James Bible believing preacher. He loved the word of God. He stood for and defended the Authorized King James Holy Bible.
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Causation is in no way correlated with effect. In other words, that diagram you posted is a total mockery of God. It implies the other versions CAUSE divorce.
Well, divorce has been around since the time of Moses, and Jesus had to condemn it in his day. I would say the Vietnam War and Hippies and the media were a much greater cause of the cause of divorce in America.
I find it ironical that all those things happened in America, after the KJV stopped being used. So a dead king in England determines how America votes, divorce rates rise, school shootings and the 10 commandments not posted anymore?
I thought you Americans fought a civil war so you would not have to be under the influence of wicked and corrupt kings - like King James, maybe? Or was that just the mad King George III?
Better to be in Canada, at least our nation has less crime, and we are not blaming a dead English king for all our troubles. Or the lack thereof.
Hey, so you want to bring back the monarchy to America? That is what you are saying, by claiming his is the only Bible, well, not including the Geneva, I guess.
I read the KJV and did not get saved. I read a Catholic Bible and did get saved. I am not a Catholic then or now. But the Word of God was powerful to overcome my prejudices, in any translation and show me the saving grace of God in Christ Jesus.
Well, divorce has been around since the time of Moses, and Jesus had to condemn it in his day. I would say the Vietnam War and Hippies and the media were a much greater cause of the cause of divorce in America.
I find it ironical that all those things happened in America, after the KJV stopped being used. So a dead king in England determines how America votes, divorce rates rise, school shootings and the 10 commandments not posted anymore?
I thought you Americans fought a civil war so you would not have to be under the influence of wicked and corrupt kings - like King James, maybe? Or was that just the mad King George III?
Better to be in Canada, at least our nation has less crime, and we are not blaming a dead English king for all our troubles. Or the lack thereof.
Hey, so you want to bring back the monarchy to America? That is what you are saying, by claiming his is the only Bible, well, not including the Geneva, I guess.
I read the KJV and did not get saved. I read a Catholic Bible and did get saved. I am not a Catholic then or now. But the Word of God was powerful to overcome my prejudices, in any translation and show me the saving grace of God in Christ Jesus.
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Oh please Mr. 28 year old Bible Believer, If you are indeed only 28 you were never alive to know the real Lester Roloff.
I remember him coming to out Church IN Kansas City MO and instructing the men to never spare the rod on their kids or wives. I remember him chuckling a satanic chuckle and telling the men and teen boys...Whack your wife good if she refuses you on anything and especially if she opens her pie hole in church. Beat her good, so she will never, ever question you are her Adam and she is cursed to bear you your children and be under your Lordship. The woman is a sub species of man, therfore she gives you receive. END OF STORY! its in the ole KJV boys! man that scary ole Texas drawl had devil in it.
It might be in your best interest to step away from the Bible Believer koolaide pump for enough time and research Ole Lesters penchant for disobeying State authorities. He refused to submit to state authorities investigating him for abuse in is home for Girls.
My Dad was witness to ole Lester crying to our Pastor in KCMO that he was so misunderstood, the Rebekah home for Girls was nothing more than a sadist camp for men and women so bound by Bible Believers lies, they beat and sexually abused those girls all the time, to brain wash them further they withheld food.
My dad overheard the real issues, porn and drugs and booze and a host of other things were found in the homes and ole Lester was known to get his own hands dirty with the young girls, by beating them with a rod, just like good ole Proverbs says....this is why heeh would not let the state have their inspections he was a fraud and sadist...
And then he died by a lightening strike in his airplane.....nuff said
So do me a favor , before you go telling people how Godly Roloff was, do your homework and put down the Bible Believer koolaide. Roloff blackmailed people in poltiics as well, he also very racist...pastors wee terrified of him, when they found out what kind of real man, er Devil they were dealing with.
Yeah I said Devil...I felt it as a kid and you could see it in his eyes...little kids and babies always cried around him
I remember him coming to out Church IN Kansas City MO and instructing the men to never spare the rod on their kids or wives. I remember him chuckling a satanic chuckle and telling the men and teen boys...Whack your wife good if she refuses you on anything and especially if she opens her pie hole in church. Beat her good, so she will never, ever question you are her Adam and she is cursed to bear you your children and be under your Lordship. The woman is a sub species of man, therfore she gives you receive. END OF STORY! its in the ole KJV boys! man that scary ole Texas drawl had devil in it.
It might be in your best interest to step away from the Bible Believer koolaide pump for enough time and research Ole Lesters penchant for disobeying State authorities. He refused to submit to state authorities investigating him for abuse in is home for Girls.
My Dad was witness to ole Lester crying to our Pastor in KCMO that he was so misunderstood, the Rebekah home for Girls was nothing more than a sadist camp for men and women so bound by Bible Believers lies, they beat and sexually abused those girls all the time, to brain wash them further they withheld food.
My dad overheard the real issues, porn and drugs and booze and a host of other things were found in the homes and ole Lester was known to get his own hands dirty with the young girls, by beating them with a rod, just like good ole Proverbs says....this is why heeh would not let the state have their inspections he was a fraud and sadist...
And then he died by a lightening strike in his airplane.....nuff said
So do me a favor , before you go telling people how Godly Roloff was, do your homework and put down the Bible Believer koolaide. Roloff blackmailed people in poltiics as well, he also very racist...pastors wee terrified of him, when they found out what kind of real man, er Devil they were dealing with.
Yeah I said Devil...I felt it as a kid and you could see it in his eyes...little kids and babies always cried around him
Angela, the Diagram which I posted simply shows the truth of the turn of events which happened in our nation as a result of the publication of the modern versions.
The modern versions are not of God. Any so called "bible" that attacks the deity of the Lord Jesus Christ is not from the Lord.
Also, these modern perversions also have been shown to make a liar out of God.
Therefore Angela, the bottom line is that the major source for the great apostasy taking place today is the modern versions (which are satanic counterfeits) and also the seminaries as well. After all, it is in the apostate seminaries where the Satanic Alexandrian school of thought is being taught.
The facts about the Gospel can be found in tact in just about any translation, including some of the worsest ones out there.
In fact, I heard of a guy who was led to the Lord by a man who was using a "Good News For Modern Man."
Now even though that man got saved through a Good News for Modern Man does not eradicate the huge corruptions that are in that particular modern version.
Angela, just because a book contains the Gospel in it, does not make that book a Holy Bible.
The Gospel can be found on a tract, a piece of paper, a sign, a billboard, a book, a newsletter, etc.
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Trust Chosenbyhim to derail this thread into another King James only cult propaganda thread.
The_highwayman raises a valid point, let us see a complete video, not an edited version the equivalent of Cherry Picking verses which Chosenbyhim and his cult are fond of doing.
SO what do we get in reply, a stupid graphic claiming that the sales of "Satans bible versions" are a direct link to bad stuff happening in the country.
IF this is not de-railing a thread I dont know what is.
Or was that the agenda and whole point of CHosenbyhims oringal post?
The_highwayman raises a valid point, let us see a complete video, not an edited version the equivalent of Cherry Picking verses which Chosenbyhim and his cult are fond of doing.
SO what do we get in reply, a stupid graphic claiming that the sales of "Satans bible versions" are a direct link to bad stuff happening in the country.
IF this is not de-railing a thread I dont know what is.
Or was that the agenda and whole point of CHosenbyhims oringal post?
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It is also important to realize that I know people that went to this conference and who of their own accord follow Kenny Copeland[I do not] and he never ever recanted his WOF views. I do not agree with the copeland doctrine at all
The video posted by the Bible Believers is just another sad proof that cult will do anything , including promoting their own lie to fulfill their own take on prophecy, and push their AKJV agenda
The Bible Believer and their KJV onlyism are as dangerous as other cults, they seek to place a version and its translation above the deity of Jesus Christ. I guess according to them Jesus was a blonde haired/blue eyed Jew speaking only English during his earthly ministry.
The other little dirty secret about them and some of their current leaders like Peter Ruckman is that those guys are hard core racist and many secretly belong to the KKK or other white supremacist movements and teach bigotry to women and a host of other things, and keep all their members bound to the LAW!
I was raised in a Bible Believer household until I was 14 and my Dad figured it all out and he took us out of their cult.
And these guys say charismatics are devils LOL!
The video posted by the Bible Believers is just another sad proof that cult will do anything , including promoting their own lie to fulfill their own take on prophecy, and push their AKJV agenda
The Bible Believer and their KJV onlyism are as dangerous as other cults, they seek to place a version and its translation above the deity of Jesus Christ. I guess according to them Jesus was a blonde haired/blue eyed Jew speaking only English during his earthly ministry.
The other little dirty secret about them and some of their current leaders like Peter Ruckman is that those guys are hard core racist and many secretly belong to the KKK or other white supremacist movements and teach bigotry to women and a host of other things, and keep all their members bound to the LAW!
I was raised in a Bible Believer household until I was 14 and my Dad figured it all out and he took us out of their cult.
And these guys say charismatics are devils LOL!