How is that proof? Famous/well known teachers and preachers get things wrong... regularly.Look at this short video that has powerful proof from 3 very famous preachers reading and remembering this classic verse:
How is that proof? Famous/well known teachers and preachers get things wrong... regularly.Look at this short video that has powerful proof from 3 very famous preachers reading and remembering this classic verse:
These should be some proof to you Magenta.How is that proof? Famous/well known teachers and preachers get things wrong... regularly.
Here's another. Check this out...
Did it seem like you were?Who is a preterist? (I certainly am not.)
You didn't even consider the evidence, now did you. And I most certainly pay little attention to those promoting the ME because of how secular it is and has become. I think you missed my post also discrediting the ME.To the OP:
Nope - sorry - you are in error.
Perhaps, you have read too much about the Mandela Effect or some such thing.
For starters, Daniel 7:25 is referring to the Roman Empire / Holy Roman Empire / Roman Catholic Church.
The things you are posting are not actual proof - there are many factors associated with these things that involve human nature - and, human error.
No. But, some people like to think of Historicists as Preterists. However, they are not the same.Did it seem like you were?
Sure, I did. But, it did not take me long to realize that I disagree. (Based on my own personal Bible study and research of such things as the Mandela Effect.)You didn't even consider the evidence, now did you. And I most certainly pay little attention to those promoting the ME because of how secular it is and has become. I think you missed my post also discrediting the ME.
Just for the time being, maybe you and the others might look just at the literary historical evidence if you have the wherewithal to see it for what it is.
Is there a wolf anywhere in that text? Nor is there a reference to dwelling.Of all His titles this seems the most glorious as well as comfortable for us, that He is the prince of peace. It is His nature, His office, His work, and the end and excellent blessings of His coming, Who is both the maker and preserver of our peace with God. And it is very remarkable, that in all the New Testament He is but once called lion, but frequently the Lamb of God; to denote to us His gentle, meek, and harmless nature, and that those who desire to be the disciples of His cross and kingdom, for they are inseparable, must be like Him, as St. Paul, St. Peter, and St. John tell us. Nor is it said the lamb shall lie down with the lion, but the lion shall lie down with the lamb. This is war that shall yield to peace, and the soldier turn hermit. To be sure, Christians should not be apt to strive, not swift to anger against anybody, and less with one another, and least of all for the uncertain and fading enjoyments of this lower world: and no quality is exempted from this doctrine. Here is a wide field for the reverend clergy of Europe to act their part in, who have so much the possession of princes and people too.
The commentary's author misquotes the scripture. Isaiah 11:6 does associate the wolf and lamb and speaks of them as dwelling together. Perhaps they did also lie down together as the leopard and the kid.Alright, lets look at a very famous author, William Penn. His works were compiled in the book "Remember William Penn" published in 1945.
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Here is an exert from page 134. Look what we find there:
Is there a wolf anywhere in that text? Nor is there a reference to dwelling.
The commentary's author misquotes the scripture. Isaiah 11:6 does associate the wolf and lamb and speaks of them as dwelling together. Perhaps they did also lie down together as the leopard and the kid.
I know, right?Short sermon...
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You know that's an exert, right?Short sermon...
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Don't show it to me from a sermon. Show it to me from scripture.Here you go Cameron, dismiss this one too.
https://ccel.org/ccel/spurgeon/sermons40/sermons40.vii.html
The Lord Leading—David Following
(No. 2348)
A SERMON INTENDED FOR READING ON LORD'S DAY, FEBRUARY 18, 1894.
DELIVERED BY C. H. SPURGEON, AT THE METROPOLITAN TABERNACLE, NEWINGTON, ON THURSDAY EVENING, NOVEMBER 14, 1889.
DAVID'S life was a life of war. The Christian life wears other aspects, but still, in very deed and in truth, spiritually, it, also, is a life of war. Our Lord spoke the Truth when He said, "Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword." The end of all His great work will be universal peace and the lion shall lie down with the lamb, but, for the present, men fight against the principles which Christ brought into the world and all who become the followers of Christ must expect to be soldiers of One whose life was one great conflict and who died upon the battlefield, yes, and was crowned upon the battlefield, too! Expect, then, to war a good warfare as long as you are here.
I figured it was an excerpt - I was just being funny - you know - "who knew there was such a thing as a short sermon"...You know that's an exert, right?
What you have is hundreds of evidences of a "quirk" of human psychology - the propensity to associate and remember things based in/on patterns and similarity:I have hundreds of these residue evidences by the way.
Don't show it to me from a sermon. Show it to me from scripture.
It's a common error. One I've made in the past. But you won't find a lion laying down with a lamb in scripture. You can't find them playing checkers or going to a movie together either.
What you have is hundreds of evidences of a "quirk" of human psychology - the propensity to associate and remember things based in/on patterns and similarity:
"the lion shall lie down with the lamb"
The mere "sound" of it [in our head] promotes the effect.
It is a real thing...
And, remember the statement about 'lion' and 'lamb' both being associated with Christ? Yep - that just helps promote the effect even more.
If people tend to do it so easily today - what makes you think people who wrote things in the past were exempt from it?