Just learning: 144, 000

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So only a 144, 000 people will be saved according to the Holy Bible??? Thank you so much for the info for those of you who are more learned than me in this.
 
This is an error most commonly (but not only) pushed by the Jehova's Witness cult.

The passage in Revelation that references the 144,000 (chapter 7 verses 4-8) clearly states that the 144,000 are from the 12 tribes of Israel (12,000 from each tribe) and then verse 9 speaks of an innumerable crowd from all tribes tongues and nations.
 
So only a 144, 000 people will be saved according to the Holy Bible??? Thank you so much for the info for those of you who are more learned than me in this.

Do you not know there is more or are you kidding around.

That is all that will be saved is 144,000 of the billions of people that dwelled on earth.

Why are we even trying.

I am only kidding.

Rev 7:4 And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there were sealed an hundred and forty and four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel.

Rev 14:4 These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins. These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth. These were redeemed from among men, being the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb.

1Co 15:23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.

The 144,000 who are saved which they are Hebrews.

Which they are the firstfruits of the redeemed so there is more that will be saved.

Like Jesus is the firstfruits and then more people at His coming and all those that have died in the Lord before that.

Rev 7:9 After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands;
Rev 7:10 And cried with a loud voice, saying, Salvation to our God which sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb.

But after John saw the 144,000 then he saw a great multitude which no man could number of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues in heaven.

Which all these people are saved which is a great multitude.

Rev 19:1 And after these things I heard a great voice of much people in heaven, saying, Alleluia; Salvation, and glory, and honour, and power, unto the Lord our God.

Much people are in heaven not a few.

144,000 you might as well consider a few.

Dan 7:9 I beheld till the thrones were cast down, and the Ancient of days did sit, whose garment was white as snow, and the hair of his head like the pure wool: his throne was like the fiery flame, and his wheels as burning fire.
Dan 7:10 A fiery stream issued and came forth from before him: thousand thousands ministered unto him, and ten thousand times ten thousand stood before him: the judgment was set, and the books were opened.
Dan 7:11 I beheld then because of the voice of the great words which the horn spake: I beheld even till the beast was slain, and his body destroyed, and given to the burning flame.

Thousand thousands ministered unto him, and ten thousand times ten thousand stood before him: the judgment was set, and the books were opened.

At least thousand thousands are saved for they minister unto Jesus.

But the ten thousand times ten thousand when the judgment is set is that the saints being judged or the world.

It is way too low a number for the judgment when the dead rise.

Rev 19:19 And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against his army.
Rev 19:20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.

I tend to believe the ten thousand times ten thousand is the saints since the thousand thousands minister unto Jesus.

And after this Daniel saw the beast given to the burning flame which happens at the battle of Armageddon which the saints are resurrected and then they come back with Jesus and He fights the world and defeats them.

Then later the dead will be judged.

So it makes sense the saints are resurrected to heaven, minister unto Jesus, are judged according to their works but are saved, and come back with Jesus to the battle of Armageddon where He defeats the world and the beast is given to the burning flame.

Ten thousand times ten thousand is 100,000,000 or an estimate but a lot of people .

Which makes more sense than 144,000 out of all the billions of people that have been on earth.
 
So only a 144, 000 people will be saved according to the Holy Bible??? Thank you so much for the info for those of you who are more learned than me in this.

Continue reading in context in Revelations
The first Chosen are the Israelites
from the book of Revelation, specifically the group of 144,000 who are "sealed" and have God's name on their foreheads. This group is seen in some religious interpretations as a special, elect group, but many other verses and interpretations of Revelation depict a much larger, uncounted multitude who also come to Christ or enter heaven, such as the great multitude described in Revelation 7:9.

Authorized (King James) Version

Rev 7:9

9 After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands
 
Thanks for the encouragement!!! I was begging God that maybe if I tried my best, I couldn't be one of the 144, 000 people if that's how many would be saved!!!! lol! I prayed if he could increase the number if I needed it. I have some more hope now that there are still a great multititude of people that you could not count who will be saved!!! Thanks so much for more info!
 
Well for those that believe pre-tribulation rapture- 144,000 male virgin Jews will be preachers to the Jews. Those that rejected God during this current dispensation will not be allowed in. 80% die early in the tribulation. Anyone who worships the beast is damned. It will be difficult for a non-Jew to be saved in this time, similar to how it is difficult for Jews to turn to Christ now.