Jesus Says

[posthuman]

Too many people are doing sinful things and calling them mistakes, which is just an excuse to continue in sin

awful lot of lumberjack out there in the sticks.

 

[Nehemiah6]

Too many people are doing sinful things and calling them mistakes, which is just an excuse to continue in sin which makes them to no longer be in right standing with the Lord according to Gal 6:7,8 among others..

Each one must give account solely for themselves. Everyone has a Bible (or free access to a Bible on the Internet).

At the same time the full Gospel must be preached at all times, and this is not really being done. But the Gospel is still there very clearly presented in the Bible. There are also too many false teachers around, but again that is not an excuse. One can simply ignore them.

 

[Braweh]

Jesus says: 'Do your first Works!' Rev 2:5
Today they say: 'It's not of Works'

Jesus says: 'Produce deeds Worthy of Repentance', Matthew 3:8
Today they say: 'Admit your a sinner and confess'

Jesus says thru John: 'He who Does what is Right is Righteous', 1 John 3:7
Today they say: 'No one is Righteous'

Jesus says: 'Judge Righteous Judgment', John 7:24
Today they say: 'Judge not'

Jesus says thru James: 'Cleanse Self of all Filthiness and Wickedness', James 1:21
Today they say: 'All our acts are filthy rags'

Jesus says thru Paul: 'Depart from iniquity, go and sin no more', 2 Tim 2:19
Today they say: 'If I could stop sinning I wouldn't need Jesus

Jesus also said he that sins is the servant of sin, John 8:34
Today they say: blah, blah, blah

Yes.

One of the biggest fallacies today is the claim that obedience to the 10 Commandments is "works."

It is not.

It can't be works as it is the Spirit of Christ who inspires and enables the obedience, just as He obeyed in the flesh.

The modern church, and the majority of Christendom today, is led by wolves - just as the Bible told us it would be. Only those who seek diligently will find the Truth hidden within the pages of The Book that no enemy has yet been able to destroy.

 

[JimmyTheLock]

but YOU are a sinner and [if you were saved] you are still saved

No, I do not willingly or knowing do sinful things.

YOU sounds like you enjoy doing sin and think of yourself as a sinner... so let yo freak fglag fly and do all the sinful things you want. Knock yo selfs out homie!

... here's how I know that you don't.

Opinions are like belly buttons... everybody has one!

All sin is wilful, you know you are doing it. stop kidding yourself.

That's laughable! Don't include me in your sinful lifestyle homie!

1 John 3:6
Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not

1 John 2:4
He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.

1 John 1:6
if we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth:

1 John 2:1
I write these things unto you, that ye sin not

James 4:17
Therefore to him that knoweth to do good, and doeth it not, to him it is sin.

We should not be willingly or knowingly doing sinful things... it should be a very rare occasion for a Christian to sin and IF they did it would NOT be a situation where it's something they knew it was sinful and they decided to do it anyway.

it is the same Jesus Who also said no one is righteous but God alone.

So you deny that those washed in the Blood of Jesus having been born again and are abiding in Christ... are still not in right standing with the Lord?

If so, you are still lost in your sin and have not believed the Gospel of Jesus Christ.

2 Corinthians 5:21
For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.

1 John 3:7
Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous.

Isaiah 54:17
No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD.

2 Corinthians 5:17
Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.

Why do you think homosexuality is a worse sin than adultery?

Being gay is an abomination unto the Lord which is a worse sin than someone who is sinning doing sex the way God intended... between a man and a woman.

Anytime someone take what God created to be a certain way and perverts it... it's an abomination

All sex outside of a man and a women in marriage is sin... but same sex union is an abomination which is greater sin.

 

[posthuman]

So you deny that those washed in the Blood of Jesus having been born again and are abiding in Christ... are still not in right standing with the Lord?

no, i affirm that what Christ said is true:
no one is righteous but God alone.

those washed in His blood do not have a righteousness of their own, but have the righteousness of their substitionary Lamb attributed to them ((cfe Philippians 3:9))

 

[ByTheGraceOfGod]

 

[Dino246]

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There is no need for you to post this in more than one place. Doing so is spamming.

 

[posthuman]

no, i affirm that what Christ said is true:
no one is righteous but God alone.

those washed in His blood do not have a righteousness of their own, but have the righteousness of their substitionary Lamb attributed to them ((cfe Philippians 3:9))

@JimmyTheLock by saying what you did:

Jesus says thru John: 'He who Does what is Right is Righteous', 1 John 3:7
Today they say: 'No one is Righteous'

You sure seem to pit scripture against scripture, insinuating that God is a liar in Psalm 14:20, Psalm 53:3, Mark 10:28 and Romans 3:11 ((plus others))

why would you do that?

and why would you answer me argumentatively when i do nothing more than quote the very words of Jesus Christ to you?

i do not typically browbeat people, but you make extraordinary claims about your own righteousness, so i have to ask, how is it you believe yourself to be faultless when you do things like this?

do you really believe your OP was written in perfect wisdom?
i don't.

and i think that brings your sinless perfectionism doctrine into serious question. forgive me but a claim such as this demands extreme examination, and yours fails the sniff test. claims of perfection must be measured against God Himself, and you don't sound like God to me. you sound like a man.

 

[posthuman]

No, I do not willingly or knowing do sinful things.

YOU sounds like you enjoy doing sin and think of yourself as a sinner...

so you are unaware of 1 Corinthians 13:7, that love always trusts?

that's why you slanderously accused @Evmur?

because you never do such things willingly or knowingly?

i am forced to presume you have never read Matthew 7:1-3, since you would never have written your reply to @Evmur or post #1 in this thread if you had, because you are 200% perfect in everything you do according to your own knowledge at all times?


wow, so, now that i have mentioned these small verses, sooooo excited to read your next beautiful holy perfect divine replies!!!

we're about to be blessed y'all!!
now whenever @JimmyTheLock writes it will be exactly as God Almighty Himself has spoken!! @JimmyTheLock NEVER stumbles!!!

 

[Mem]

IF knowing good and evil is the basis for doing good and not doing evil, then... why did Adam get cast out of the garden for becoming like God when he ate from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil?

 

[Magenta]

IF knowing good and evil is the basis for doing good and not doing evil, then... why did Adam get cast
out of the garden for becoming like God when he ate from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil?

God did agree that Adam and Eve had become like Him in knowing good and evil. Eating of
the tree of the knowledge of good and evil opened their eyes to the fact that they had done
evil. There is obviously a difference there since God knows good and evil yet is only good.

 

[Mem]

God did agree that Adam and Eve had become like Him in knowing good and evil. Eating of
the tree of the knowledge of good and evil opened their eyes to the fact that they had done
evil. There is obviously a difference there since God knows good and evil yet is only good.

So then, knowing good and evil doesn't necessarily result in goodness. In fact, it only shows us how evil we actually are, would or wouldn't you agree?

 

[Magenta]

So then, knowing good and evil doesn't necessarily result in goodness. In fact,
it only showed us how evil we actually are, would or wouldn't you agree?

Yes, and it certainly showed them that going against God was evil...

 

[Mem]

Yes, and it certainly showed them that going against God was evil...

How crazy would they have seemed if, when they heard the Lord approaching, instead of hiding they ran up to Him and said, "Hey Lord, look! We're all good!"

 

[Cameron143]

How crazy would they have seemed if, when they heard the Lord approaching, instead of hiding they ran up to Him and said, "Hey Lord, look! We're all good!"

He might have started over.

 

[Mem]

He might have started over.

I wasn't sure if I should laugh at this thought but, it was reflective of my initial thought at any rate.

 

[posthuman]

God did agree that Adam and Eve had become like Him in knowing good and evil. Eating of
the tree of the knowledge of good and evil opened their eyes to the fact that they had done
evil. There is obviously a difference there since God knows good and evil yet is only good.

the text indicates "has become like one of ((The)) Us" is only referring to Adam, not Eve --

• "ha-adam" is equivalent to specifically calling Adam specifically by name
• the grammar is singular not plural

therefore i believe that the "become like" God doesn't have anything to do with having eaten the tree of death, but with Adam in faith having renamed his wife "mother of life" when he heard God say "The Seed of the Woman" will bring salvation by crushing the head of the serpent.

it is by faith we enter into Him, Our Husband



same, here

 

[posthuman]

@Magenta
@Mem
@Cameron143

i really hope you all realize how crazily post loves each of you

 

[Magenta]

therefore i believe that the "become like" God doesn't have anything to do with having eaten the tree of death, but with Adam in faith having renamed his wife "mother of life" when he heard God say "The Seed of the Woman" will bring salvation by crushing the head of the serpent.

it is by faith we enter into Him, Our Husband



same, here

Has become like one of us knowing good and evil...

Genesis 3:22

New International Version
And the LORD God said, “The man has now become like one of us, knowing good and evil. He must not be allowed to reach out his hand and take also from the tree of life and eat, and live forever.”

New Living Translation
Then the LORD God said, “Look, the human beings have become like us, knowing both good and evil. What if they reach out, take fruit from the tree of life, and eat it? Then they will live forever!”

English Standard Version
Then the LORD God said, “Behold, the man has become like one of us in knowing good and evil. Now, lest he reach out his hand and take also of the tree of life and eat, and live forever—”

Berean Standard Bible
Then the LORD God said, “Behold, the man has become like one of Us, knowing good and evil. And now, lest he reach out his hand and take also from the tree of life, and eat, and live forever...”

King James Bible
And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:

New King James Version
Then the LORD God said, “Behold, the man has become like one of Us, to know good and evil. And now, lest he put out his hand and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live forever”—

New American Standard Bible
Then the LORD God said, “Behold, the man has become like one of Us, knowing good and evil; and now, he might reach out with his hand, and take fruit also from the tree of life, and eat, and live forever”—

NASB 1995
Then the LORD God said, “Behold, the man has become like one of Us, knowing good and evil; and now, he might stretch out his hand, and take also from the tree of life, and eat, and live forever “—

NASB 1977
Then the LORD God said, “Behold, the man has become like one of Us, knowing good and evil; and now, lest he stretch out his hand, and take also from the tree of life, and eat, and live forever”—

Legacy Standard Bible
Then Yahweh God said, “Behold, the man has become like one of Us to know good and evil; and now, lest he send forth his hand and take also from the tree of life and eat and live forever”—

Amplified Bible
And the LORD God said, “Behold, the man has become like one of Us (Father, Son, Holy Spirit), knowing [how to distinguish between] good and evil; and now, he might stretch out his hand, and take from the tree of life as well, and eat [its fruit], and live [in this fallen, sinful condition] forever”—

Christian Standard Bible
The LORD God said, “Since the man has become like one of us, knowing good and evil, he must not reach out, take from the tree of life, eat, and live forever.”

Holman Christian Standard Bible
The LORD God said, “Since man has become like one of Us, knowing good and evil, he must not reach out, take from the tree of life, eat, and live forever.”

American Standard Version
And Jehovah God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil; and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever �

Aramaic Bible in Plain English
And LORD JEHOVAH God said, “Behold, Adam has become as one of us, to know good and evil; now, lest he reach his hand and he will take also from the tree of life and he will eat and will live to eternity.”

Brenton Septuagint Translation
And God said, Behold, Adam is become as one of us, to know good and evil, and now lest at any time he stretch forth his hand, and take of the tree of life and eat, and so he shall live forever -

Contemporary English Version
The LORD said, "They now know the difference between right and wrong, just as we do. But they must not be allowed to eat fruit from the tree that lets them live forever."

Douay-Rheims Bible
And he said: Behold Adam is become as one of us, knowing good and evil: now, therefore, lest perhaps he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever.

English Revised Version
And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil; and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:

GOD'S WORD® Translation
Then the LORD God said, "The man has become like one of us, since he knows good and evil. He must not reach out and take the fruit from the tree of life and eat. Then he would live forever."

Good News Translation
Then the LORD God said, "Now these human beings have become like one of us and have knowledge of what is good and what is bad. They must not be allowed to take fruit from the tree that gives life, eat it, and live forever."

International Standard Version
Later, the LORD God said, "Look! The man has become like one of us in knowing good and evil. Now, so he won't reach out, also take from the tree of life, eat, and then live forever—"

JPS Tanakh 1917
And the LORD God said: 'Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil; and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever.'

Literal Standard Version
And YHWH God says, “Behold, the man was as one of Us, as to the knowledge of good and evil; and now, lest he send forth his hand, and has also taken from the Tree of Life, and eaten, and lived for all time.”

Majority Standard Bible
Then the LORD God said, “Behold, the man has become like one of Us, knowing good and evil. And now, lest he reach out his hand and take also from the tree of life, and eat, and live forever...”

New American Bible
Then the LORD God said: See! The man has become like one of us, knowing good and evil! Now, what if he also reaches out his hand to take fruit from the tree of life, and eats of it and lives forever?

NET Bible
And the LORD God said, "Now that the man has become like one of us, knowing good and evil, he must not be allowed to stretch out his hand and take also from the tree of life and eat, and live forever."

New Revised Standard Version
Then the LORD God said, “See, the man has become like one of us, knowing good and evil; and now, he might reach out his hand and take also from the tree of life, and eat, and live forever”—

New Heart English Bible
Then God said, "Look, the man has become like one of us, knowing good and evil. So now, let us send him out, lest he reach out his hand and also take of the tree of life and eat, and live forever."

Webster's Bible Translation
And the LORD God said, Behold, the man hath become as one of us, to know good and evil. And now, lest he should put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:

World English Bible
Yahweh God said, “Behold, the man has become like one of us, knowing good and evil. Now, lest he reach out his hand, and also take of the tree of life, and eat, and live forever—”

Young's Literal Translation
And Jehovah God saith, 'Lo, the man was as one of Us, as to the knowledge of good and evil; and now, lest he send forth his hand, and have taken also of the tree of life, and eaten, and lived to the age,' --​

 

[Cameron143]

I wasn't sure if I should laugh at this thought but, it was reflective of my initial thought at any rate.

Happens to me all the time. And it doesn't really matter if you found humor in it and others didn't. Only that you did.