jesus is not God

[Frank4YAHWEH]

No, you did - even on your web sites you claim that Jesus is not worthy of as much worship as God the Father - I'm talking qualitatively.

You say that if we worship Jesus as we worship God, we make Him into an idol - at least you're consistent with your errors.

Frank, I would seriously consider praying about this. Pray that God would show you that Jesus certainly *is* worth as much glory as God, and *is* to be worshiped as God (Revelation 4-5).

I would like for you to copy and paste where I have ever SAID, and I QUOTE:

"Jesus is not worthy of as much worship as God the Father."

I have never SAID this nor does it ever SAY this on my web sites. You have simply QUOTED me and what it TRULY SAYS on my web sites erroneously. Can you not see why it is importatnt to QUOTE what one says or what a source ACTUALLY SAYS accurately? This is why Scripture warns about ADDING UNTO or TAKING AWAY FROM Father Yahweh's inspired prophetic word (Scripture). One or two words added and the changing or the changing around of words changes the meaning of what is ACTUALLY SAID.

 

[Frank4YAHWEH]

Frank - you just did a few minutes ago.

"Let US MAKE man in OUR image."

You believe this is talking about the angels and God. So, God is asking them to make man in their image - both God's and their's.


This is what you're saying if you believe Genesis 1:26 to mean that.

You can not QUOTE me as SAYING "The angels created with God.", because I have simply NEVER SAID such foolishness! I do not believe that the malakim ["angels'] created with Yahweh. I believe that FATHER Yahweh "ALONE" and "BY HIMSELF" created and that there was "NO ONE BESIDE HIM" in His creating the heavens and the earth and ALL THINGS IN THEM as Scripture clearly teaches.

 

[theBibleisawsome]

I can not even understand your response. You must not be able to communicate in English very well. It seems you are trying to say that I was saying that the malakim ["angels"] are better than Yahweh in your saying:

"thats not true God is better than the angels"

I never even suggested such foolishness!

U just told me that were made in the image of God and angels and ur making them equal by saying that.u say ur a Christian but yet ur the one insulting people Jesus said pray for those who persecute u pray for those that insult u for my names sake.thats what the Bible says but I guess your bible says insult those who don't agree with u insult them that persecute u for my names sake.I don't know what Bible ur reading out of

 

[Frank4YAHWEH]

U just told me that were made in the image of God and angels and ur making them equal by saying that.u say ur a Christian but yet ur the one insulting people Jesus said pray for those who persecute u pray for those that insult u for my names sake.thats what the Bible says but I guess your bible says insult those who don't agree with u insult them that persecute u for my names sake.I don't know what Bible ur reading out of

You are most definitely not reading me properly. I have never insulted anyone here. I have never said that I am a Christian. Maybe you should take a reading comprehension course or simply stop putting words in people's mouths.

 

[theBibleisawsome]

U just insulted me twice r u not reading the post that u talk about.

 

[CanadaNZ]

Actually, the Sanhedrin (Jewish leaders) falsely accused Yahshua of making himself out to be "God" just as they had also falsely accused him of breaking the Sabbath. They were constantly out to entrap Yahshua in his words. Yahshua is never once recorded in the so-called "New Testament" as proclaiming to be "God" and he certainly is never recorded in this section of Scripture as proclaiming that he was "God" to the Sanhedrin (Jewish leaders). He only proclaimed to be the SON of FATHER Yahweh and we are asked in Scripture to believe and confess that he is the Messiah the SON of Yahweh, and never are we ever asked in Scripture to believe and confess "Jesus IS God!".

Did Yahshua Create Or Pr-exist His Birth?

"Jesus IS God!"?

Seriously people!! Are we to take the side of the Sanhedrin (Jewish leaders) in their falsely accusing him of making himself out to be "God", breaking the Sabbath and who were constantly out to entrap him in his words or are we to take Yahshua's side in his proclaiming to be the SON of Yahweh? I myself choose to take Yahshua's side in his proclaiming to be the SON of Yahweh over the side of the Sanhedrin (Jewish leaders) who falsely accused him of making himself out to be "God", breaking the Sabbath and who were constantly out to entrap him in his words.

So instead we should go with the gnostic teaching which we know from church history is a false teaching. The gnostics were the reason John wrote his gospel, to defend the divinity of Christ. Also Jesus did state that he was the Son of God, which we know is true because Mary conceived by the power of God (not by earthly means). Which would make him a god at least and would make him a false god unless he is indeed God. So yea I am going to stick with the bible on this one, and trust it when it says the messiah would be God.

 

[theBibleisawsome]

You are most definitely not reading me properly. I have never insulted anyone here. I have never said that I am a Christian. Maybe you should take a reading comprehension course or simply stop putting words in people's mouths.

U told me to take reading classes because I don't understand wht u say n im not able to communicate in English very good those sound like insults to me sure don't sound like compliements.and if ur not a Christian why r u on the website tryna tell me about the Bible.

 

[SantoSubito]

I would like for you to copy and paste where I have ever SAID, and I QUOTE:

"Jesus is not worthy of as much worship as God the Father."

I have never SAID this nor does it ever SAY this on my web sites. You have simply QUOTED me and what it TRULY SAYS on my web sites erroneously. Can you not see why it is importatnt to QUOTE what one says or what a source ACTUALLY SAYS accurately? This is why Scripture warns about ADDING UNTO or TAKING AWAY FROM Father Yahweh's inspired prophetic word (Scripture). One or two words added and the changing or the changing around of words changes the meaning of what is ACTUALLY SAID.

Well you deny the divinity of Christ, correct? So it would stand to reason that if you deny Christ's divinity you wouldn't worship him at all, while you would worship the Father, so it stands to reason based on that that you don't find Jesus worthy of as much worship as the Father.

 

[zackabba]

I would like for you to copy and paste where I have ever SAID, and I QUOTE:

"Jesus is not worthy of as much worship as God the Father."

I have never SAID this nor does it ever SAY this on my web sites. You have simply QUOTED me and what it TRULY SAYS on my web sites erroneously. Can you not see why it is importatnt to QUOTE what one says or what a source ACTUALLY SAYS accurately? This is why Scripture warns about ADDING UNTO or TAKING AWAY FROM Father Yahweh's inspired prophetic word (Scripture). One or two words added and the changing or the changing around of words changes the meaning of what is ACTUALLY SAID.

Well, rather than putting words in your mouth, tell me:

Is Yeshua worthy of just as much worship as Yahweh?

 

[pentecostal]

Read Genesis Chapter 1 verse 26 Who else could He be talking about when He said "IN OUR IMAGE"

well its not the second person of the trinity if that's what you mean.

God was speakng to the angels

GENESIS 1:26 SAYS,“Then God (Elohim) said,‘Let Us make man in Our
image, according to Our likeness....’”What did God mean when He said“Us”?
3
Some say this was the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit speaking together as one God.

But Job 38:4-7 tells us,“Where were you when I laid the foundations of the earth?
TellMe, if you have understanding. Who determined its measurements? Surely you
know! Or who stretched the line upon it? To what were its foundations fastened?
Or who laid its cornerstone, when the morning stars sang together, and all the sons
of God shouted for joy?

In the OT the term“sons of God”always refers to angels. Throughout the life of
Jesus we see angels in action—at His birth, in the wilderness, at Gethsemene, at
the resurrection and the ascension. Throughout the book of Acts we also see
angels involved with the people of God.

Hebrews 1:14 says that angels are sent to
minister to the“heirs of salvation.”Clearly angels are involved in the ongoing
process of“making man”into the image of God. Similar language is found in
Genesis 11:7 and Isaiah 6 where God is clearly speaking to angels.

Genesis 1:27 says,“So God [Elohim] created man in His own image....”Through
the new birth each of us can be made into the image of God; yet none of us have
plural identities or personalities.

Each of us is only ONE PERSON! Genesis 3:22
says,“Then the LORD God said,‘Behold, the man has become like one of Us, to
know good and evil.’”2 Samuel 14:17 says,“The word of my lord the king will
now be comforting; for as the angel of God, so is my lord the king in discerning
good and evil.”Is it really so unreasonable to believe that the Creator spoke with
angels?

 

[pentecostal]

I would like for you to copy and paste where I have ever SAID, and I QUOTE:

JESUS IS GOD

Throughout the Scriptures Jesus Christ is not only referred to as the Son of God, but also is clearly shown to be God Himself.

I Am
(Exodus 3:14)
God said to Moses, "I AM WHO I AM. This is what you are to say to the Israelites: 'I AM' has sent me to you. "
(John 8:58)
"I tell you the truth," Jesus answered, "before Abraham was born, I am!" At this, they picked up stones to stone him, but Jesus hid Himself, slipping away from the temple grounds.

Immanuel/Emmanuel
(Isaiah 7:14)
Therefore the Lord himself will give you a sign the virgin will be with child and will give birth to a son and will call him Immanuel.
(Matthew 1:22)
All this took place to fulfill what the Lord had said through the prophet: "The virgin will be with child and will give birth to a son, and they will call him Immanuel" - which means, "God with us."

Mighty/Almighty
(Isaiah 9:6)
For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given, and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counselor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, the Prince of Peace.
(Isaiah 10:21)
A remnant will return, a remnant of Jacob will return to the Mighty God.
(Matthew 28:18)
"All authority in heaven and earth has been given to me."
(Revelation 1:8)
I am the Alpha and the Omega," says the Lord God, "who is, and who was, and who is to come, the Almighty."

King of kings and Lord of lords
(1 Timothy 6:13-15)
In the sight of God, who gives life to everything, and of Christ Jesus, who while testifying before Pontius Pilate made the good confession, I charge you to keep this command without spot or blame until the appearing of our Lord Jesus Christ, which God will bring about in his own time - God, the blessed and only Ruler, the King of kings and Lord of lords, who alone is immortal and who lives in unapproachable light, whom no one has seen or can see. (for further reference to God as King of kings, see Ps 136:3 and Deut 10:17)
(Revelation 17:14)
They will make war against the Lamb, but the Lamb will overcome them because he is Lord of lords and King of kings - and with him will be his called, chosen and faithful followers."


Alpha and Omega / First and Last
(Revelation 1:7-8)
Look, he is coming with the clouds, and every eye will see him, even those who pierced him; and all the peoples of the earth will mourn because of him. So shall it be! Amen. "I am the Alpha and Omega," says the Lord God, " who is, and who was, and who is to come, the Almighty."
(Revelation1:17-18)
... "I am the First and the Last. I am the Living One, I was dead, and behold I am alive for ever and ever!
(Revelation 22:12-13)
"Behold, I am coming soon! My reward is with me, and I will give to everyone according to what he has done. I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End.
(Revelation 22:20)
He who testifies to these things says, "Yes, I am coming soon." Amen. Come, Lord Jesus.
(Revelation 2:8)
These are the words of him who is the First and the Last, who died and came to life again.
(Isaiah 48:12)
"Listen to me, O Jacob, Israel, whom I have called: I am he; I am the first and I am the last."
(Isaiah 44:6)
"This is what the Lord says - Israel’s King and Redeemer, the Lord Almighty: I am the first and I am the last; apart from me there is no God."
(Isaiah 43:10-11)
"You are my witnesses," declares the Lord, "and my servant whom I have chosen, so that you may know and believe me and understand that I am he. Before me no god was formed nor will there be one after me. I, even I, am the Lord, and apart from me there is no savior."


In Revelation 1:7-8, the Lord God (Jehovah) states He is the Alpha and Omega. Yet in that same verse the speaker, God (Jehovah), says He was pierced. Who was it that was actually pierced? Jesus. In Revelation 22:12-20 it is Jesus who claims He is the Alpha and Omega. In Isaiah 48:12 and 44:6 God, Jehovah says He is the first and the last. Yet again in Revelation 2:8, Jesus says He is the first and the last. Finally, Both God, Jehovah, and Jesus are described as "coming soon".

The Scriptures Confirm
(John 5:39-40)
"You diligently study the Scriptures because you think that by them you possess eternal life. These are the Scriptures that testify about me, yet you refuse to come to me to have life.
(John 5:46)
If you believed Moses, you would believe me, for he wrote about me.
In the old testament, Moses was clearly writing about The Lord God (Jehovah). Yet Jesus clearly states Moses was writing about himself.

 

[pentecostal]

As I had made known early, even IF this were speaking of FATHER Yahweh ["God"] (I do not believe this was properly translated in this case.), it says that He was manifest (MADE KNOWN or REVEALED) in the flesh. Certainly FATHER Yahweh's SON made known or revealed his and our FATHER Yahweh in (BY WAY OF or THROUGH) his flesh. The word 'manifest' in no way means to be transformed from one point of being (eg. 'spirit') to another (eg. 'flesh').

Did Yahshua Create Or Pre-exist His Birth?

"Jesus IS God!"?

did you know that in Jesus Christ dwell ALL the fullness of deity (Godliness).

In 1 Timothy 3:16, Paul wrote, “And without controversy great is the mystery of
godliness: God was manifested in the flesh....” The word “flesh” means humanity,
or specifically a human being. In the encounter with Moses, God was manifested
in the flame, but when Jesus Christ was born in Bethlehem, God was manifested
in a human being. The same God, only a different manifestation.

When the Spirit gave Peter the revelation, He confessed this Man as “the Christ,
the Son of the living God” (Matthew 16:16). Paul described Him as “the image of3
the invisible God” (Colossians 1:15). Just as the flame was a visible image of the
invisible Deity in the Old Testament, in the New Testament the only-begotten
Son was the image. In 2 Corinthians 5:18-19, Paul wrote, “All things are of God,
who has reconciled us to Himself through Jesus Christ [just as God brought
Moses to Himself through the flame], and has given us the ministry of
reconciliation, that is, that God was in Christ [just as God was in the flame]
reconciling the world to Himself....”

Moses beheld a fiery image in a bush; the apostles beheld a human image on a
cross. This is why Jesus said in John 14:9, “He who has seen Me has seen the
Father...” (John 14:9). The flame could have said the same thing to Moses, since
he who was seeing the flame was seeing the Father.

 

[pentecostal]

Well, I thought that what I had posted in text and in link was self explanatory that I believe that our Heavenly FATHER and Creator's Name is Yahweh and that the name that He GAVE His SON was Yahshua.

The Name Yahweh

In John 8:42 Jesus said, “If God were your Father, you would love Me, for I
proceeded forth and came from God; nor have I come of Myself, but He sent
Me.” The Man, Jesus, had His origin God. It was God who conceived the idea of
manifesting Himself in the flesh and then brought forth the conception in the
womb of Mary (1 Peter 1:19-20; Luke 1:35). Yet in John 10:30 Jesus stated, “I
and My Father are one,” just as the flame and the God in the flame were one.

The Bible goes on to say, “Then the Jews took up stones again to stone Him.
Jesus answered them, ‘Many good works I have shown you from My Father. For
which of those works do you stone Me?’ The Jews answered Him, saying, ‘For a
good work we do not stone You, but for blasphemy, and because You, being a
Man, make Yourself God’” (John 10:31-33). Of course, the flame had not made
itself God; God had made Himself a flame. Likewise with Jesus, God had made
Himself a Man.

In 1 Timothy 2:5 Paul wrote, “For there is one God and one Mediator between
God and men, the Man Christ Jesus....” Moses came to God through the flame; in
the same way Jesus said, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to
the Father except through Me” (John 14:6).

It is the Man, Christ Jesus, who is the
Mediator between God and man. As Peter wrote, “For Christ also suffered once
for sins, the just for the unjust, that He might bring us to God” (1 Peter 3:18).Yet,
the Man is God Himself manifested in flesh, which means that God is His own
Mediator. He did not assign this role to another, but took it upon Himself.

For
God was in Christ reconciling the world to Himself—not to another but to
Himself.

 

[pentecostal]

In John 13:20 Jesus said, “Most assuredly, I say to you, he who receives
whomever I send receives Me; and he who receives Me receives Him who sent
Me.” For the Israelites in Egypt, receiving Moses was equal to receiving the God
who had sent Moses. But God did not send Moses apart from speaking to him4
through the flame; therefore receiving Moses was equal to receiving the flame,
God’s manifestation.

In His first epistle, John warned that “whoever denies the Son does not have the
Father either; he who acknowledges the Son has the Father also” (1 John 2:23).
To reject the manifestation is to reject the One being manifested. Likewise, to
acknowledge the manifestation is to have the One being manifested. To Moses,
the flame was God manifested in the fire. To us, the Son is God manifested in the
flesh.

The Old Testament is the beginning of God’s revelation of Himself to man. The
New Testament is the completion. Therefore, the flame was only a partial
revelation of God, while the Son was the fulness. This is because God is much
more than an impersonal phenomenon such as a flame; He is the Living God who
desires a living relationship with living men.

Therefore, we could say that the
flame was a temporary, partial revelation of God, while in Jesus Christ dwells “all
the fullness of the Godhead bodily...” (Colossians 2:9).

 

[pentecostal]

FOR Frank4YAHWEH

The Purpose of Manifestations
The writer of Hebrews began his epistle with the words, “God, who at various times and in various ways spoke in time past to the fathers by the prophets, has in these last days spoken to us by His Son...” (Hebrews 1:1-2). One of the purposes of the Son was so God could speak to us. In fact, God’s purpose in manifesting Himself throughout human history has been to communicate and make Himself known to man. In this sense, we can say that God’s manifestation is His messenger. This is why the burning bush account first identifies the One in the flame as “the Angel of the Lord” (Exodus 3:2). This is not speaking of an angel in the sense of Gabriel or Michael but in the broader sense of a messenger or spokesman.

In John 12:49 Jesus said, “For I have not spoken on My own authority; but the Father who sent Me gave Me a command, what I should say and what I should speak.” In other words, the Man Jesus was the messenger of the Father, speaking only what was given to Him by the Spirit.
When communicating to Moses through the flame, God said, “Come now, therefore, and I will send you to Pharaoh that you may bring My people, the children of Israel, out of Egypt” (Exodus 3:10). When communicating to the apostles through the Son, God said, “Go into all the world and preach the gospel
to every creature” (Mark 16:15).

To Moses He said, “I will certainly be with you” (v.12). To the apostles He said, “Lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the5 age” (Matthew 28:20). Before accepting God’s commission Moses asked, “Indeed, when I come to the children of Israel and say to them, ‘The God of your fathers has sent me to you,’ and they say to me, ‘What is His name?’ what shall I say to them?” (Exodus 3:13).

God answered Moses with these words, “I AM WHO I AM.” He then said, “Thus you shall say to the children of Israel, ‘I AM has sent me to you... This is
My name forever, and this is My memorial to all generations.’” (v.14-15). We see then that one of Moses’ assignments was to make God’s name known to the
people of Israel.

When Jesus came to be baptized in the River Jordan, John the Baptist said to the people, “I did not know Him; but that He should be revealed to Israel, therefore I came baptizing with water” (John 1:31). In other words, one of the purposes of water baptism is to reveal God’s Son—His manifestation in the flesh. Therefore, speaking through His manifestation God told His apostles to “make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit” (Matthew 28:19).

Baptism was to be in the Father’s, the Son’s, and the Holy Spirit’s name. But in Luke 24:47 Jesus said that repentance and remission of sins should be preached specifically “in His name to all nations.” This command was fulfilled in Acts 2:38 when Peter preached, “Repent, and let every one of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins.” Through water baptism God is revealed in the name of Jesus. How could
the name of the manifestation be different from the name of the One being manifested?

 

[pentecostal]

Very interesting (and this is with your other responses to me as well). Never thought of it that way.

Now, I'll be on the other side of the fence for a moment - weren't there many people name Jesus? This doesn't automatically make them YHWH.

yes there are many people with the name Jesus, there is a famous christian singer called Jesus Adrian Romero.

but no that doesn't automatically make them Yahweh. we are mere humans with no power what so ever. Jesus on the other hand has all power and is our savior the creator of this world/universe that's why he is Yahweh

like i said it is an expanded form of the name Yahweh (Jesus)

i refrain form saying Jehovah because its not a good translation so ill stick to what the Jews called him YHWH

Isaiah 52: 6 Therefore my people shall know my name: therefore they shall know in that day that I am he that doth speak: behold, it is I.

and that name is Jesus

God bless

 

[pentecostal]

The Incarnation

What we now call the Incarnation (the taking on of human flesh) did not actually occur until over seven hundred years after the prophecies of Isaiah had been published. But finally,“when the fullness of the time had come, God sent forth His Son, born of a woman...”(Galatians 4:4). This One who was sent forth by God was the Child who was born, the Man we know as Jesus Christ, the Son of God. As the Son, He was made like all the descendants of Adam—of the dust of the earth. He was part of the things that were made. Yet in Him the invisible God could be clearly seen, for Paul writes, “Great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifested in the flesh”(1 Timothy 3:16). The Amplified Bible says that God was“made visible in human flesh. ”This is the Incarnation.

The reason God can be clearly seen in this Man named Jesus is because“in Him dwells all the fullness of the Godhead bodily”(Colossians 2:9). What’s more, He is “the brightness of His glory and the express image of His person”(Hebrews 1:3), “the image of the invisible God”(Colossians 1:15). An image is something that can be seen, either in the mind’s eye as a mental image or through physical eyes as a material image. Idolaters of every generation have been proficient at making images out of wood and stone to represent the gods they have vainly imagined in their minds.

But the invisible God has no such image, for“we ought not to think that the Divine Nature is like gold or silver or stone, something shaped by art and man’s devising”(Acts 17:29). No, the true God has a living image, one fearfully and wonderfully made in the womb of a woman by divine hands. This image is the Man called by Peter“the Christ, the Son of the living God”(Matthew 16:16). Not only does this Man reveal God in a visible form, but He also serves as the
Mediator between the invisible Holy God and sinful humanity, for Paul has also written,“There is one God and one Mediator between God and men, the Man
Christ Jesus, who gave Himself a ransom for all”(1 Timothy 2:5-6).

In Him we can find peace with God, for“God was in Christ reconciling the world to Himself, not imputing their trespasses to them”(2 Corinthians 5:19).“And you,”Paul proclaims,“who once were alienated and enemies in your mind by wicked works, yet now He has reconciled in the body of His flesh through death, to present you holy, and blameless, and above reproach in His sight”(Colossians 1:21-22).

 

[Frank4YAHWEH]

U just insulted me twice r u not reading the post that u talk about.

I have never insulted you!

 

[Annointed1980]

Hey, maybe this will help, Genesis 1:2-3 in Hebrew-English

ב וְהָאָרֶץ, הָיְתָה תֹהוּ וָבֹהוּ, וְחֹשֶׁךְ, עַל-פְּנֵי תְהוֹם; וְרוּחַ אֱלֹהִים, מְרַחֶפֶת עַל-פְּנֵי הַמָּיִם. וַיֹּאמֶר אֱלֹהִים, יְהִי אוֹר; וַיְהִי-אוֹר

In the land [The Earth] was unformed and void and darkness the abyss and the Spirit of God moved upon the water And God-Breathed the Word Let there be light and there was morning the light

You see in the beginning, there was The Spirit of God [the Father רוח אלוהים Ruach-Elohim] or main embodiment of GOD [Yahweh, Jehovah], and then "God-breathed" [or Ruw'ach Hakkodesh: the Holy Spirit; Also note Pslam 51:11 the same hebrew רוח הקודש] what did God breath? He breathed the Word [Dabar-Yahweh דבר אלוהים also contrast Genesis 15:1 with Dabar-Yahweh = Word of God] and once the three were in accord it was so, and "The Spirit of God" seen and it was good.

Definition:
ruw'ach (roo'-akh)
wind; by resemblance breath, i.e. a sensible (or even violent) exhalation; figuratively, life, anger, unsubstantiality; by extension, a region of the sky; by resemblance spirit, but only of a rational being

The entire Creation of Genesis continues on through the same way as this. Each time, God is present, the Holy Spirit consults the Word of God that commences the creation, then the Father sees, and notes it is worthy.

Other like [not all inclusive] OT scriptures that show a separation of God are:

"The Word of God" - Genesis 15:1, 1 Samuel 3, 2 Samuel 7:4, 2 Samuel 24:11, 1 Kings 6:11, 1 Kings 12:22-24, 1 Kings 13:1, 1 Kings 14:18, 1 Kings 16:7, 1 Kings 18:1;31, 1 Kings 19:9-11, Ezekial 1:1-3, 3:4, Hosea 1:1-2, Psalm 33:4;6, Joel 1:1, Jonah 1:1, Jeremiah 1:4-5, Micah 1:1, Nahum 1:1, Habakkuk 1:1, Zephaniah 1:1, Haggai 1:1-3, Zechariah 1:1, 4:8, 12:1, Malachi 1:1 --- NOTE: The WORD/Word of God typically appears to mortals, interacts with humanity, gives commands from GOD, and is basically a physical apparition.

"The Holy Spirit" - Genesis 6.3, Numbers 11:25-26; 27:18, Judges 3:9; 6:3-4; 11:29; 13:25, 14:6, 19; 15:14, 1 Samuel 10:10, 11:16, 16:13-14, Isaiah 11:1-2, 30:1, 32:15, 63:7-14; 2 Kings 2:9-10; Ezekiel 3:14, 11:5; Zechariah 4:6; Haggai 2:5 --- NOTE: The "Spirit" typically moves people, inspires, causes action, or enters into people.Other typical appearances of the word GOD or LORD in the Old Testament tend to refer to locations where the original tetragrammaton YHWH or יהוה appears.
So using this in accord with John 1:1 - "In the beginning there was the Word, the Word was with God, the Word was GOD." You can see how even in the 1st Chapter of Genesis, this was true, a well as throughout the Torah and Tanakh. Hope this helps settle your heart on this subject!

 

[Frank4YAHWEH]

FOR Frank4YAHWEH

The Purpose of Manifestations
The writer of Hebrews began his epistle with the words, “God, who at various times and in various ways spoke in time past to the fathers by the prophets, has in these last days spoken to us by His Son...” (Hebrews 1:1-2). One of the purposes of the Son was so God could speak to us. In fact, God’s purpose in manifesting Himself throughout human history has been to communicate and make Himself known to man. In this sense, we can say that God’s manifestation is His messenger. This is why the burning bush account first identifies the One in the flame as “the Angel of the Lord” (Exodus 3:2). This is not speaking of an angel in the sense of Gabriel or Michael but in the broader sense of a messenger or spokesman.

In John 12:49 Jesus said, “For I have not spoken on My own authority; but the Father who sent Me gave Me a command, what I should say and what I should speak.” In other words, the Man Jesus was the messenger of the Father, speaking only what was given to Him by the Spirit.
When communicating to Moses through the flame, God said, “Come now, therefore, and I will send you to Pharaoh that you may bring My people, the children of Israel, out of Egypt” (Exodus 3:10). When communicating to the apostles through the Son, God said, “Go into all the world and preach the gospel
to every creature” (Mark 16:15).

To Moses He said, “I will certainly be with you” (v.12). To the apostles He said, “Lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the5 age” (Matthew 28:20). Before accepting God’s commission Moses asked, “Indeed, when I come to the children of Israel and say to them, ‘The God of your fathers has sent me to you,’ and they say to me, ‘What is His name?’ what shall I say to them?” (Exodus 3:13).

God answered Moses with these words, “I AM WHO I AM.” He then said, “Thus you shall say to the children of Israel, ‘I AM has sent me to you... This is
My name forever, and this is My memorial to all generations.’” (v.14-15). We see then that one of Moses’ assignments was to make God’s name known to the
people of Israel.

When Jesus came to be baptized in the River Jordan, John the Baptist said to the people, “I did not know Him; but that He should be revealed to Israel, therefore I came baptizing with water” (John 1:31). In other words, one of the purposes of water baptism is to reveal God’s Son—His manifestation in the flesh. Therefore, speaking through His manifestation God told His apostles to “make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit” (Matthew 28:19).

Baptism was to be in the Father’s, the Son’s, and the Holy Spirit’s name. But in Luke 24:47 Jesus said that repentance and remission of sins should be preached specifically “in His name to all nations.” This command was fulfilled in Acts 2:38 when Peter preached, “Repent, and let every one of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins.” Through water baptism God is revealed in the name of Jesus. How could
the name of the manifestation be different from the name of the One being manifested?

I do not believe in the Trinitarian form of Baptism.

Did The Original Matthew 28:19 Contain The Trinitarian Formula For Baptism?

As to your question "How could the name of the manifestation be different from the name of the One being manifested?

I believe that Yahshua Messiah was manifest (MADE KNOWN or REVEALED) in this last time period and was foreordained by His and our FATHER Yahweh before the foundation of the world in accordance with the following verse:

Who verily was foreordained before the foundation of the world, but was manifest in these last times for you, Who by him do believe in Yahweh, that raised him up from the dead, and gave him glory; that your belief and hope might be in Yahweh (1 Kepha [Peter] 1:20-21).

The one being manifested (MADE KNOWN or REVEALED) is Yahshua who is the promised and prophesied humble servant, Messiah, and SON of his and our FATHER Yahweh. Yahshua was not revealed or made known in times past but in this last time period as the above verse clearly says. The manifestation (an act of manifesting, the state of being manifested) and the one being manifested is Yahshua. He did not have two different names and was not two separate beings. FATHER Yahweh GAVE His SON his name and that name is Yahshua. Our Heavenly FATHER and Creator's Name is Yahweh and His son's GIVEN name is Yahshua. FATHER YAHWEH and His SON YAHSHUA do not have the same name.

Did The Father And The Son Have The Same Name?

It seems you are taking the definition of this word 'manifest' and tying it in with Spiritualism as being a 'materialization' instead with the proper definition of how it is used in context of Scripture as being a 'revealing' or 'being made known'. Note how the following translations properly use this word in accordance with the contextual meaning:

New International Version (©1984)
He was chosen before the creation of the world, but was revealed in these last times for your sake.

New Living Translation (©2007)
God chose him as your ransom long before the world began, but he has now revealed him to you in these last days.

New American Standard Bible (©1995)
For He was foreknown before the foundation of the world, but has appeared in these last times for the sake of you ...

International Standard Version (©2008)
On the one hand, he was foreknown before the creation of the world, but on the other hand, he was revealed at the end of time for your sake.

GOD'S WORD® Translation (©1995)
He is the lamb who was known long ago before the world existed, but for your good he became publicly known in the last period of time.

World English Bible
... who was foreknown indeed before the foundation of the world, but was revealed at the end of times for your sake, ...

The word 'manifest' simply means 'being made known' or 'revealed' in accordance with the context and has nothing to do with Spiritualism as being a 'materialization' or 'being transformed from one form to another'. There is also no "incarnation" taught in Scripture.
Yahshua CAME in the FLESH. He was a flesh and blood human being, not a spirit being. Yahshua did not come into the world as a spirit being such as an 'angel' or 'deity', but was 100% man, just as you and I, so that he might sympathize with us as mortal beings. Yahshua was not born into this world as an immortal being, but as a mortal being who was susceptible to death just as you and I.

Seeing then that we have a great high priest, that is passed into the heavens, Yahshua the son of Yahweh, let us hold fast our profession. For we have not a high priest who cannot be touched with the feeling of our weaknesses; but was in all points tempted like we are, yet without sin (Hebrews 4:14-15).

By this you know Yahweh's spirit: Every person that confesses that Yahshua Messiah IS COME IN THE FLESH is of Yahweh: And every person that confesses not that Yahshua Messiah IS COME IN THE FLESH is not of Yahweh: and this is that spirit of antimessiah, of which you have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world (1 Yahchanan [John] 4:2-3).

The word "flesh," here, is evidently used to denote "human nature" or "man." See Mattithyah [Matthew] 16:17, 19:5, 24:22; Lukyah 3:6; Romans 1:3, 9:5.