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What does the bible say?
1 Cor 8:6) But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.
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Jesus is God. Many people quoted John at the beginning of the post, so I will not requote it. Jesus is God and the Bible is the inspired Word of God. Anyone who does not believe that Jesus is God has a great problem. Jesus is not Adam, that is just obvious Bible heresy. Jesus made Adam. If people will not listen to the Scripture then they are not good Christians. What else can be said? People have quoted numerous verses that show that Jesus is God. If the Gospel is hid it is hid to those who are lost and the god of this world is blinding their eyes.
FYI: There are plenty of other forums that are run by people who deny the deity of Christ and similar contentions. This forum has a rule against repeated denial of the deity of Christ.
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So being grown up would be to tolerate and accommodate such inane unbiblical declarations? He wasn't asking. He's TELLING us that Jesus is Adam resurrected. You coddle gross heresy. Grow up... spiritually.
quote shroom2 :Is the bible God's Word, or not? I believe that it is, including the epistles written by Paul
the BIBLE means biblia that means library of many books like psalms and proverbs etc. these are books written by PEOPLE who followed God .
the bible is not written by God because you can see the author above the page example testimony of gospel according to John is testimony of John and not of God but we trust in these testimony because John, Matthew and Mark were a eyewitnes of Jesus sayings.
Luke was not a eyewitness but he was reporting to theophilus about the Gospel Luke 1:2-3
there is one thing i know that God wrote for us and thats the ten commendments and if a sinfull person touched these he would probably die these writings were holy and had to be sealed in the ARK .
Exo 31:18 And he gave unto Moses, when he had made an end of communing with him upon mount Sinai, two tables of testimony, tables of stone, written with the finger of God.
catholic bible has 7 more books Catholic Old Testaments include 1st and 2nd Maccabees, Baruch, Tobit, Judith, The Wisdom of Solomon, Sirach etc.. do you also follow these ??
Jesus was the only one who could deliver the true and clean message of our God and that message is called THE GOSPEL
you dont baptise in the name of PAUL but in the name of JESUS
we dont command demons to go out in the name of Paul but Jesus
the BIBLE means biblia that means library of many books like psalms and proverbs etc. these are books written by PEOPLE who followed God .
the bible is not written by God because you can see the author above the page example testimony of gospel according to John is testimony of John and not of God but we trust in these testimony because John, Matthew and Mark were a eyewitnes of Jesus sayings.
Luke was not a eyewitness but he was reporting to theophilus about the Gospel Luke 1:2-3
there is one thing i know that God wrote for us and thats the ten commendments and if a sinfull person touched these he would probably die these writings were holy and had to be sealed in the ARK .
Exo 31:18 And he gave unto Moses, when he had made an end of communing with him upon mount Sinai, two tables of testimony, tables of stone, written with the finger of God.
catholic bible has 7 more books Catholic Old Testaments include 1st and 2nd Maccabees, Baruch, Tobit, Judith, The Wisdom of Solomon, Sirach etc.. do you also follow these ??
Jesus was the only one who could deliver the true and clean message of our God and that message is called THE GOSPEL
you dont baptise in the name of PAUL but in the name of JESUS
we dont command demons to go out in the name of Paul but Jesus
One more..
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Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
Joh 1:2 The same was in the beginning with God.
Joh 1:3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
Joh 1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
Rev 19:11 And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war.
Rev 19:12 His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself.
Rev 19:13 And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.
Rev 21:5 And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.
Rev 22:6 And he said unto me, These sayings are faithful and true: and the Lord God of the holy prophets sent his angel to shew unto his servants the things which must shortly be done.
Joh 1:2 The same was in the beginning with God.
Joh 1:3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
Joh 1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
Rev 19:11 And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war.
Rev 19:12 His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself.
Rev 19:13 And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.
Rev 21:5 And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.
Rev 22:6 And he said unto me, These sayings are faithful and true: and the Lord God of the holy prophets sent his angel to shew unto his servants the things which must shortly be done.
If you don't follow Pauls teachings/writings then you don't understand the Gospel. You don't understand the Good News. That is what the apostles explain to us after the first 4 books of the New Testament. It is an opening up of the whole Bible. It shows what the whole purpose of the Old Testament was and how it was fulfilled by our Lord Jesus Christ. The Old Testament and New Testament perfectly fit with each other but only if you have the key. That Key is Jesus, our Lord, and He gives the Holy Spirit which teaches us and opens the bible to us. Believing only half of the bible is error. What do you have when you have half a truth?
That is like saying "I believe in the bad news, but I don't believe in the good news, shalom". Well I suppose that is your prerogative but I wouldn't be trying to spread that around on public forum. If anything it would be better to say you believe in the good news and the bad news was just a rumor... IMHO
That is like saying "I believe in the bad news, but I don't believe in the good news, shalom". Well I suppose that is your prerogative but I wouldn't be trying to spread that around on public forum. If anything it would be better to say you believe in the good news and the bad news was just a rumor... IMHO
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For a child will be born to us, a son will be given to us; And the government will rest on His shoulders; And His name will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Eternal Father, Prince of Peace. (Isaiah 9:6)
And He was saying to them, "You are from below, I am from above; you are of this world, I am not of this world. (John 8:23)
And He was saying to them, "You are from below, I am from above; you are of this world, I am not of this world. (John 8:23)
2 Pet 1:21) For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.
2 Tim 3:16) All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
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11) But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man.
12) For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ.
The books written by Paul are as authoritative as the gospels, and more relevant to Christians than the gospels are. They (Romans through Thessalonians) are written TO Christians. We can learn much from the gospels and the OT, but they are not written TO us, rather for our learning.
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Also, can any other than God pass out judgement?
But when the Son of Man comes in His glory, and all the angels with Him, then He will sit on His glorious throne. "And all the nations will be gathered before Him; and He will separate them from one another, as the shepherd separates the sheep from the goats; and He will put the sheep on His right, and the goats on the left. (Matthew 25:31-33)
"And as for you, My flock, thus says the Lord GOD, 'Behold, I will judge between one sheep and another, between the rams and the male goats. (Ezekiel 34:17)
But when the Son of Man comes in His glory, and all the angels with Him, then He will sit on His glorious throne. "And all the nations will be gathered before Him; and He will separate them from one another, as the shepherd separates the sheep from the goats; and He will put the sheep on His right, and the goats on the left. (Matthew 25:31-33)
"And as for you, My flock, thus says the Lord GOD, 'Behold, I will judge between one sheep and another, between the rams and the male goats. (Ezekiel 34:17)
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Personally, I like to take the Gospels as a whole, including the rest of the Bible, instead of looking at one specific verse. I posted John 8:58 on here - if we look at the context, the case for the deity of Christ is stronger, for His assertion was pure blasphemy to the Jews.
Now, let's look at Luke 3:28 and 38:
Jesus, when he began his ministry, was about thirty years of age, being the son (as was supposed) of Joseph, the son of Heli...(go through the genealogy to...)...the son of Enos, the son of Seth, the son of Adam, the son of God. (Luke 3:28, 38).
Jesus's genealogy was traced through Joseph by Luke). The ending, where it says "the son of God," could be referring to Adam, but most likely to Jesus (see 1:32), the "second Adam" from heaven (1 Corinthians 15:47).
Through human descent He was the Son of God. However, this does not mean that He never existed before being conceived by Mary.
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