It's Go Time, Trump Announces Run!

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Also we are derailing the thread. What the flip does the origin of covid have to do with the original topic
 
ZNP said:
We know that the vaccine is a kill shot. That much is proven. We also know that the pandemic was man made, that also was proven. We also know that 80% of America has gotten the vax and many government employees like the military were mandated to get the vaccine. Those are facts.

Now the question I have is would we have gotten that far if Hillary Clinton had been in charge of Warp speed?

I think the answer to that is "hell no!" If Clinton had tried to have mandates you would have had much more objection. I suspect that 50% of the country at most would be vaxxed now and no military or government mandates would have succeeded.

So whether or not Trump was in on it or just a useful idiot, either way he was used to get the number from 50% to 80% with 100% of the military. Not only so but he continued to be a salesman for the vaccine long after the evidence was out that the benefits did not justify the harms from the vaccine.
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He said get one if you think you need one. Hardly a salesman. The Dems were down his throat because he wouldn't push it. And the vax that he backed was stopped.
 
Dude653 said:
Fact..not opinion...it hasn't been proven
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Tell that to Germany, tell that to Japan, tell that to Denmark, tell that to 70% of the people in this country.

When you call something a tin foil hat conspiracy that then turns out to be true, you lose all credibility. You gambled and lost.
 
kaylagrl said:
He said get one if you think you need one. Hardly a salesman. The Dems were down his throat because he wouldn't push it. And the vax that he backed was stopped.
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You didn't answer my question. If Hillary had been president during the pandemic do you think we would have gotten 80% vaccinated in this country, do you think we could have mandated the vaccine to the military and others?
 
ZNP said:
One other thing, all that censorship of Facebook and Twitter from all the various organizations like DHS, FBI, NSA, and CIA. That all happened while Trump was president. He might not have authorized it, but how could he not have been advised? Surely there were some, like "Q" telling him what was going on. He even said that Zuckerberg and others would come to see him at the Whitehouse. He had to have known.
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Come on now. He never stopped anything from going on social media, never asked. Dems and the FBI were all over it. Now you're blaming Trump for everything that happened? Q was made up nonsense, never existed.
 
ZNP said:
Tell that to Germany, tell that to Japan, tell that to Denmark, tell that to 70% of the people in this country.

When you call something a tin foil hat conspiracy that then turns out to be true, you lose all credibility. You gambled and lost.
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You're gish galloping.
I'm asking for evidence of your claim
It could have been created in a lab. But that hasn't been proven
 
ZNP said:
You didn't answer my question. If Hillary had been president during the pandemic do you think we would have gotten 80% vaccinated in this country, do you think we could have mandated the vaccine to the military and others?
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Don't know what Hillary would have done, but those who voted against her would have been the target.
 
RichMan said:
Trump only cares about Trump.
It has always been so.
Any hope to defeat the Dems and their radical anti-American agenda is for Trump to be totally out of the picture.
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For someone who didn't give a crap about the country he did a h@ll of a lot for it. More than most people know. In fact when the Dems are long gone and people look back they are going to see how much he did for this country that are totally ungrateful. Look at the moron in office now. Two years and he's decimated the country. If this was back in the founding days of the country they would have hung him three times already.
 
Dude653 said:
You're gish galloping.
I'm asking for evidence of your claim
It could have been created in a lab. But that hasn't been proven
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We have been posting the evidence every single day for the last two years on threads concerning Covid. Your question comes across as disingenuous.

This thread is not about the evidence that Covid and the vaccine are man made bioweapons designed to seize control of the world. We have those threads, go there. This thread is about Donald Trump and his involvement in this whole ugly business.
 
ZNP said:
We have been posting the evidence every single day for the last two years on threads concerning Covid. Your question comes across as disingenuous.
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No, you haven't
You made a claim. Provide evidence please
 
ZNP said:
You didn't answer my question. If Hillary had been president during the pandemic do you think we would have gotten 80% vaccinated in this country, do you think we could have mandated the vaccine to the military and others?
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Absolutely, even more so. I think the lockdowns would have been harsher and longer.
 
Papermonkey said:
It does look like you've judged. 😔
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Not at all. Bible says we shall by their fruit. Have not seen any fruit. Still looking and hoping to find some. Regardless, the man needs to just go away. Being a Christian does not always translate into being a good leader.
 
kaylagrl said:
Absolutely, even more so. I think the lockdowns would have been harsher and longer.
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So we disagree. If Hillary Clinton tried to mandate a vaccine 50% off the country would have rejected it. They don't trust the Clintons. They surely wouldn't have let their kids be jabbed and the military would have resigned first. I am sure they did some war games on this before bringing in Trump to be president.

The lockdowns could not have been harsher if no one listened to her. If 50% reject the mandates it would have been chaos. 50% of teachers walk off, 50% of kids don't show up to school. Unworkable.
 
ZNP said:
So we disagree. If Hillary Clinton tried to mandate a vaccine 50% off the country would have rejected it. They don't trust the Clintons. They surely wouldn't have let their kids be jabbed and the military would have resigned first. I am sure they did some war games on this before bringing in Trump to be president.
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Nah, they had people scared to death. Trump wanted to open things early, get back to normal, Dems refused. I had complete strangers sidle up to me in stores and say "when Trump gets in again, we won't have to wear these masks". Trump was over it already. But it was an election year. Had it not been Trump would have had everything open an back to work before that summer started.
 
Just how many of you really believe Trump can get enough votes to win again?
He will never get as many as he did in 2016 or 2020.
He is a divider, not someone who can unite.
I can never vote for him again.
If he is the nominee, I will stay home.
 
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