It’s Paul For Me!

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NetChaplain

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Even though the word “Church,” which is what Christ briefly spoke of (Mat 16:18), is mentioned in the Book of Acts, the Christians did not know that it is the Body of Christ until God used Paul to reveal this to them. Only all who will be reborn are in the Church of God and of Christ. Unbelieving Jews and all within the OT are not part of this Church; which answers to why the OT worshipers were congregations, or general “ecclesia,” instead of the Church. There is no mention of the word “Church” in the OT, and no reveled knowledge of it either. The ”people of God”—Israel, will be ruled by the Lord Jesus on the new earth; and the Christians will rule with Him (Mat 19:28; 2Ti 2:12; Rev 20:6).
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It’s Paul For Me!


“Give none offence, neither to the Jews, nor to the Gentiles, nor to the Church of God” (1Co 10:32). Here, as in the other Scriptures, the Holy Spirit makes a difference in the three companies. By the term “Jew,” Israel as a nation is meant, and not the individual Jew in this present dispensation. The Gentiles are those of all races and tongues, other than Jews who have not been regenerated by the new birth. The Church is God’s elect company in the present dispensation, and is composed of all who are born again.

Through the twelve sons of Jacob, God called out unto Himself a special nation of twelve tribes, to be His special testimony to the nations of the earth (using the Jews to bring the Gentiles to Himself—NC). Even in the days of Jacob’s grandfather, Abraham, God had this special nation in mind when He said “I will make thee a great nation, and I will bless thee . . . and in thee shall all of the families of the earth be blessed” (Gen 12:2, 3). So Israel was to be God’s earthly testimony, and through them He eventually brought the Messiah and Savior into the world. In due time Christ will return and God will deal with all of the nations (Mat 25:31-46).

In dealing thus with an earthly nation many earthly and physical ordinances and regulations had to be given, especially in the Old Testament. Even the four Gospels are linked with Jewish promises, and are really the grand fulfillment of the OT promises to Israel, and they are valuable to us as divinely inspired pictures of the Person, character and work of our blessed Lord Jesus. Like the OT, they give us blessed acquaintanceship with the Lord Jesus, and also wisdom as to our personal walk as children of God.

The Church is an altogether new thing (separate from Israel—God’s people—NC), which began on the day of Pentecost, and was said to be a mystery, hidden from past generations (Eph 5:32). It is a heavenly company, composed of both Jews and Gentiles (Eph 3:5, 6). In Acts 2:47 He added to is Church those who were saved, and that is still the way He adds them. His Church is destined to leave the world suddenly one of these days. Then God will go back to dealing with His earthly nation, Israel.

John the Baptist came as a minister to Israel (to offer the Lord Jesus first, then the new earth to non-Christian Jews—NC), preaching the Gospel of the Kingdom (Mat 3:2 i.e. the kingdom of heaven coming on the earth is at hand; beginning at the millennia—NC). This kingdom message will be resumed after the rapture of the Church when God returns to dealing with Israel (Mat 24:14). The Gospel for the present dispensation is “the Gospel of the grace of God,” and is referred to as Paul’s Gospel (Acts 20:24; Rom 2:16, 16:25; 2Tim 2:8).

There would be no confusion about the instructions in the NT if we would only ask, “Which company is this particular Scripture written to?” Many, for instance, ask why it is that James 5:14, 15 doesn’t seem to work. A dear one is ill; they call for the elders, who pray over him and anoint him with oil, but nothing happens, even though this Scripture promises that “the Lord shall raise him up.” Their error is that James does not write directly to the Church, and does not claim to. In the beginning of His epistle he says he is writing “to the twelve tribes (Israel, which most are unbelievers—NC) scattered abroad” (Jas 1:1).

For Church doctrine and present-day truth for the believer, we must turn to Paul’s epistles (which are written to believers in Christ—NC). In Ephesians 3:2-10 Paul says this special revelation of the Church was committed to him. In Galatians 2:9, he says that he and Barnabas were sent unto the Gentiles, while Peter, James and John were sent to the Jews.

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MJS daily devotional excerpt for July 9

“Suffering takes us in condition where truth has us in position.” -MJS

“We will never learn any truth in experience excepting in the deepening knowledge of the Lord Jesus Christ. It is the lack of this which is the cause of weakness among believers; bare doctrine is not personal fellowship with Him. We have that which is lovely and full of blessing in Him; but if we are to know it as such; to prove its truth, to enjoy it always, it must be in taking these things as connected with Him.” - John Nelson Darby (1900-1882)
http://www.abideabove.com/hungry-heart/
 

Lynx

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A lot of people misinterpret what Paul said because they lose sight of the fact that he was talking to Christians. He never gave instruction on how to be saved, but always on how Christians should behave themselves after they are saved.

This causes problems because some people try to interpret what Paul said as instructions on how to be saved. Then they get confused when this seems to conflict with what Peter and Jesus himself said on the subject.
 

GRACE_ambassador

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op: It's Paul for me?
Seems to me that is God's Will for me Also:

"Howbeit for this cause I obtained Mercy, that in me first​
Jesus Christ might shew forth all longsuffering, for a pattern​
to them which should hereafter believe on Him to life​
everlasting." (1 Timothy 1:16 AV)​
+​
"Wherefore I beseech you, be ye followers of me."​
(1 Corinthians 4:16 AV)​
"Be ye followers of me, even as I also am of Christ."​
(1 Corinthians 1:11 AV)​
"Be ye therefore followers of God, as dear children"​
(Ephesians 5:1 AV)​
"Brethren, be followers together of me..."​
(Philippians 3:17 AV)​
Amen.
 

Magenta

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Paul... never gave instruction on how to be saved

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Romans 10:9If you declare with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart
that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved. Romans 10:9
 

Lynx

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Romans 10:9If you declare with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart
that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved. Romans 10:9
Yeah and that directly conflicts what what Peter said, and what Jesus himself said. Hmm...
 

NetChaplain

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He never gave instruction on how to be saved, but always on how Christians should behave themselves after they are saved.
Hi and God bless! Just wanted you to know that this is one of other passages that Paul inferred how to be saved (Rom 10:9).
 

NetChaplain

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op: It's Paul for me?
Seems to me that is God's Will for me Also:

"Howbeit for this cause I obtained Mercy, that in me first​
Jesus Christ might shew forth all longsuffering, for a pattern​
to them which should hereafter believe on Him to life​
everlasting." (1 Timothy 1:16 AV)​
+​
"Wherefore I beseech you, be ye followers of me."​
(1 Corinthians 4:16 AV)​
"Be ye followers of me, even as I also am of Christ."​
(1 Corinthians 1:11 AV)​
"Be ye therefore followers of God, as dear children"​
(Ephesians 5:1 AV)​
"Brethren, be followers together of me..."​
(Philippians 3:17 AV)​
Amen.
Hi, and appreciate the reply! God bless!!