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brightfame52 said:
He is reigning now upon the throne of David. 1 Cor 15:24-26

24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.

25 For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet.

26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.

At His resurrection and ascension He occupied the Davidic throne as the Son of David as promised according to Peter Acts 2:29-33

29 Men and brethren, let me freely speak unto you of the patriarch David, that he is both dead and buried, and his sepulchre is with us unto this day.

30 Therefore being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him, that of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he would raise up Christ to sit on his throne;

31 He seeing this before spake of the resurrection of Christ, that his soul was not left in hell, neither his flesh did see corruption.

32 This Jesus hath God raised up, whereof we all are witnesses.

33 Therefore being by the right hand of God exalted, and having received of the Father the promise of the Holy Ghost, he hath shed forth this, which ye now see and hear.
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Your first sentence has not happened yet, sit at my right hand till I make your enemies your foot stool.
The right hand of God is not David's throne, it suggest power but not David's throne.
We are just beginning and not at the end.

People still die...so no this has not happened yet.

Im sorry saint but I dont agree to your understanding of any of this.🤔
 
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God-fearing said:
Yes let's
Act 1:6 So, when they were together, they said to him, Lord, will you at this time give back the kingdom to Israel?

Act 1:7 And he said to them, It is not for you to have knowledge of the time and the order of events which the Father has kept in his control.

Act 1:8 But you will have power, when the Holy Spirit has come on you; and you will be my witnesses in Jerusalem and all Judaea and Samaria, and to the ends of the earth.
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Right.
So, since the kingdom is righteous peace and joy in the Holy Spirit, the kingdom belongs to Israel (all those in Christ) now.
 
God-fearing said:
Your first sentence has not happened yet, sit at my right hand till I make your enemies your foot stool.
The right hand of God is not David's throne, it suggest power but not David's throne.
We are just beginning and not at the end.

People still die...so no this has not happened yet.

Im sorry saint but I dont agree to your understanding of any of this.🤔
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How is it not David's throne?

He was anointed king of Israel by God on the holy mount when the kingdom of God came in power and the two olive trees who stand before the lord of the earth were there standing with him.

And he said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That there be some of them that stand here, which shall not taste of death, till they have seen the kingdom of God come with power. And after six days Jesus taketh with him Peter, and James, and John, and leadeth them up into an high mountain apart by themselves: and he was transfigured before them. And his raiment became shining, exceeding white as snow; so as no fuller on earth can white them. And there appeared unto them Elijah with Moses: and they were talking with Jesus. Mark 9:1-4​
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Then his disciples welcomed the king of Israel to Jerusalem.

Took branches of palm trees, and went forth to meet him, and cried, Hosanna: Blessed is the King of Israel that cometh in the name of the Lord. John 12:13​
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It says that Christ went to heaven to receive the kingdom because natural Israel rebelled and refused to be ruled by the heir to the throne of David.

He said therefore, A certain nobleman went into a far country to receive for himself a kingdom, and to return. Luke 19:12​
But his citizens hated him, and sent a message after him, saying, We will not have this man to reign over us. And it came to pass, that when he was returned, having received the kingdom, then he commanded these servants to be called unto him, to whom he had given the money, that he might know how much every man had gained by trading. Luke 19:14-15​
 
ChristRoseFromTheDead said:
What's dangerous is
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Denying God's plan and purpose for the Jewish people. Salvation was to the Jew first. We are grafted in. Even Jesus told the Canaanite woman "It is not right to take the children's bread and throw it to dogs." God made a way for the rest of us because the Jews mostly rejected Him. But He has not rejected them. And the Bible tells that story. From the OT to the NT. God will keep His promise and restore the land and the Jewish people. Anything that puts the church in front of that is heresy. Believe what you wish. You'll find out, probably sooner than later.
 
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ThereRoseaLamb said:
Denying God's plan and purpose for the Jewish people. Salvation was to the Jew first. We are grafted in. Even Jesus told the Canaanite woman "It is not right to take the children's bread and throw it to dogs." God made a way for the rest of us because the Jews mostly rejected Him. But He has not rejected them. And the Bible tells that story. From the OT to the NT. God will keep His promise and restore the land and the Jewish people. Anything that puts the church in front of that is heresy. Believe what you wish. You'll find out, probably sooner than later.
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No one's denying God's plan and purpose for the Jewish people, which is to repent and believe in Jesus. God accepts them into his kingdom as he does anyone else. He has not rejected them; they for the most part reject him.
 
ThereRoseaLamb said:
You're rejecting God's plan for the Jews when you deny them the land God promised them.
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The physical land promise has been fulfilled, and forfeited by the carnal seed under the old covenant, the everlasting caanan land Gen 17:8 was never promised to the carnal seed israel, but to the spiritual seed which belonged to Christ, Abes Spiritual seed through Christ, and its fulfillment is heavenly in the new heavens and earth.
 
HeIsHere said:
In the end approx. 300 000 people can be genocided because they were not a state, that is the argument.
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Mercy on those who are suffering, who have no defense or say in this long war. They are caught inbetween the Iranian Proxy groups (who don’t really care about them) and Israel…..

However, Israel has every right to fight the dogs who came into Israel unprovoked and massacred 100’s of people!
 
TruthDefender said:
Mercy on those who are suffering, who have no defense or say in this long war. They are caught inbetween the Iranian Proxy groups (who don’t really care about them) and Israel…..

However, Israel has every right to fight the dogs who came into Israel unprovoked and massacred 100’s of people!
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Well, if you want to take everything outside of its larger geopolitical context that is your choice but it is just a poorly formed opinion.
 
I'm going to clarify something. National ethnic Israel was God's people while under the old covenant and it was by national covenant. However within that national covenant Israel was remnant Israel the spiritual body of Christ, God's people He foreknew. That Israel will be conformed to the image of Christ. Rom 8:29

29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren

So yes in a real sense national ethnic Israel was God's people for a time by national covenant! 2
 
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