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Are you a Jew? You are grafted in. The covenant was made with the Jews. Not to the Gentiles.


1)there was no such thing as Jew at the time - made with Abraham a Hebrew - and all future descendants also mentions - 'those who are not your offspring'. - would also include 'seed'

2) all the covenants you forward relate to Abraham as well & his descendants - so why should they be everlasting but not this one?


Note: if its everlasting it relates to - any uncircumcised male

14 Any uncircumcised male, who has not been circumcised in the flesh, will be cut off from his people; he has broken my covenant.”
 
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14 Any uncircumcised male, who has not been circumcised in the flesh, will be cut off from his people; he has broken my covenant.”
Yup. These people are bold enough to proclaim someone else's land belongs to some people because these claim to be Jews, but not bold enough to raise the issue that all the males in their church need to get circumcised. Hypocrites. Yet clever hypocrites, because they know being consistent with the latter would likely and rightly get them labelled the cult that they are (and they themselves would be circumcised from real Christian fellowship, if they continued in their unbelief).
 
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1)there was no such thing as Jew at the time - made with Abraham a Hebrew - and all future descendants also mentions - 'those who are not your offspring'. - would also include 'seed'

2) all the covenants you forward relate to Abraham as well & his descendants - so why should they be everlasting but not this one?


Note: if its everlasting it relates to - any uncircumcised male

14 Any uncircumcised male, who has not been circumcised in the flesh, will be cut off from his people; he has broken my covenant.”

The covenant is and always will be for believers in the OT and the NT, those of the faith, not an ethnic group.

The tree has no non-believers in it!
 
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Yup. These people are bold enough to proclaim someone else's land belongs to some people because these claim to be Jews, but not bold enough to raise the issue that all the males in their church need to get circumcised.

The covenant was made to the Jews, not the church. Gentiles are grafted in.


Hypocrites.

The hatred is strong with you. Seriously, what's your problem?


Yet clever hypocrites,

You really are hateful. Are you a Bible scholar that everyone should listen to you? You can't even have a discussion with you all because your hatred of Jews is so deep. Like I said, too bad Hitler didn't have your Biblical understanding, 6 million + Jews would still be alive today. Or do you believe the Holocaust happened? That's usually the starting point. Talk about clever hypocrites. smh Sad.
 
The covenant was made to the Jews, not the church. Gentiles are grafted in.

The hatred is strong with you. Seriously, what's your problem?

You really are hateful. Are you a Bible scholar that everyone should listen to you? You can't even have a discussion with you all because your hatred of Jews is so deep. Like I said, too bad Hitler didn't have your Biblical understanding, 6 million + Jews would still be alive today. Or do you believe the Holocaust happened? That's usually the starting point. Talk about clever hypocrites. smh Sad.
This is why I don't talk with you, and also a demonstration of why I call you a hypocrite. Comparing me and those who speak the truth to those who caused the Jewish holocaust is disgusting, dishonest and sleazy, especially given the holocaust currently happening in Gaza which you deny. Your hypocrisy is demonstrable, because if you really believed that I or those like me would even contemplate such a holocaust, attempting to engage in intelligent discussion with us would be fruitless. I will reconsider communication when you repent, and apologise.
 
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Yup. These people are bold enough to proclaim someone else's land belongs to some people because these claim to be Jews, but not bold enough to raise the issue that all the males in their church need to get circumcised. Hypocrites. Yet clever hypocrites, because they know being consistent with the latter would likely and rightly get them labelled the cult that they are (and they themselves would be circumcised from real Christian fellowship, if they continued in their unbelief).

oooh the scary "hate" card is pulled out once again... :ROFL::ROFL::ROFL:

Must be scripture was not a sufficient means to support the false teaching.
 
God told Ezekiel He would resurrect physical Israel and showed Ezekiel dead bones that began developing into living Jews.

That started at Pentecost when a remnant of Judah and Israel were raised up together with Christ and will culminate at the resurrection when all believing Israel is raised from the dead.
 
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This is why I don't talk with you, and also a demonstration of why I call you a hypocrite. Comparing me and those who speak the truth to those who caused the Jewish holocaust is disgusting, dishonest and sleazy, especially given the holocaust currently happening in Gaza which you deny. Your hypocrisy is demonstrable, because if you really believed that I or those like me would even contemplate such a holocaust, attempting to engage in intelligent discussion with us would be fruitless. I will reconsider communication when you repent, and apologise.

Intelligent conversation is not in view for some, what they want is to suppress the truth by any means necessary and make it personal so that a person will come back in kind and they can have them banned.
It is all very tragic, but take heart you are on the right/righteous side... AMEN!! :)
 
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This is why I don't talk with you, and also a demonstration of why I call you a hypocrite.

And the feeling is more than mutual.

Comparing me and those who speak the truth to those who caused the Jewish holocaust is disgusting, dishonest and sleazy,

I did NOT compare you to a Nazi. And I asked if you believed the Holocaust happened, we have several here that deny it, or believe it wasn't "that bad". And this is usually where the issue begins with denying Jews their homeland. This bunk about the Jews are not really Jews is ridiculous. 6 million people lost their lives for one reason and one reason only, they were Jewish. I don't believe you are speaking truth. I believe what the Bible says.



especially given the holocaust currently happening in Gaza which you deny.

Gaza is nothing like the Holocaust. Gaza is a war started by terrorists. They brought hell down on their own heads from stubbornness. They refuse to allow the Jews a right to exist. Period. All they ever had to do was allow the hostages to go free. Did you see the video just shown of the young man STILL a hostage after two years??!! EVERY SINGLE DROP OF INNOCENT BLOOD IS ON HAMAS HANDS!!!




Your hypocrisy is demonstrable, because if you really believed that I or those like me would even contemplate such a holocaust

You weren't accused of agreeing with the Holocaust. As I said, people here deny or snake around and say it wasn't so bad. I didn't accuse you personally. Communicate, don't, I could care less. Just don't follow me around the forum marking red xs.
 
Intelligent conversation is not in view for some, what they want is to suppress the truth by any means necessary and make it personal so that a person will come back in kind and they can have them banned.
It is all very tragic, but take heart you are on the right/righteous side... AMEN!! :)

And you are an instigator.
 
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