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Anyone that follows Jesus is an Israelite


You should read God's covenant with Abram. It is unconditional. (Genesis 12:2 &3)

I will make you into a great nation, and I will bless you; I will make your name great, so that you will be a blessing. will bless those who bless you and curse those who curse you; and all the families of the earth will be blessed through you.

Israel is the nation. God sent Abram to the land and (vs 7) gave it to him.

God's plan and purpose cannot be thwarted (Job 42:2). We do not see the land given to Abraham entirely under Israel's control. That will happen. Physical Israel is testimony to God's power to ensure His will is done. And that is exactly why there is so much hatred for Israel. The nations that curse Israel become cursed themselves. Remember the British empire? Even Rome did not compare. Now it a hellhole where Muslim criminals do as they please and those who complain are liable to be are arrested.

The reason that America is great is because God blessed the nation. And that is because America has been Israel's friend since Israel's independence. As America's universities program students with antisemitic propaganda, those kids are turning against Israel. Those young people are the next generation of leaders and voters. Watch the rot set in, which is already happening to a degree.
 
Anyone that follows Jesus is an Israelite

The things you said about end time events and prophesy are true but you are seeing everything through the.... LITERAL ISRAEL GLASSES.... this will change how you understand prophesy.

Like the Jews in Jesus's day...
They missed the King of Kings and son of David the Messiah because they were looking for a literal king and literal ruler to destroy Rome with force. Even John the Baptist didn't see the truth until just before he died.

By holding to the literal you will miss the Spiritual

Joh 18:36 Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence.

Rom 10:12-13
12 For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him. 13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.
So, the Millennium is literal or not? The 144000 jews from revealation are literal or not? The OT prophecies about Israels future are literal or not?
As follower of Christ you beling to the body of Christ.
In Acts 15 it is made clear that follower of Jesus had not to hold the OT law as the jews had to.
So God has an separate Plan with Israel, then with the body of Christ.
But as in so many cases, it depends on the way of Hermeneutic 😀
 
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You seem to be having great difficulty following the conversation. Nobody is born a Christian. Islam teaches all are born Muslim. You lied and said I gave no sources, but I gave sources, the same one I gave when I first talked with you after greeting you when you joined and introduced yourself on a Jehovah's Witness thread. After being one of the very first people to welcome you, I was trying to help you sort out some of your wickedness in the form of ridiculous beliefs around Christianity, like asking if adultery is ok as long as you love the person, and also cautioning you against defending your anti-Christ beliefs to spare you the indignity of being banned. Some people call that type of helpful being hateful also, just as you do now. You were pro-Islam then and telling some of the same lies, and asking the same questions which I already answered. Telling the truth to your lies is not hate. People are so confused they think telling the truth about Islam is racism. Are you still as anti-Christ now as you were when you joined? A very short exchange to you in reality carried on over quite a few posts from one thread to another, from one month to the next and then the next and on into the following year. The same blasphemer of God was supporting you then, too. No surprises there. Ask your friends whatever you want. I don't care to respond to your lies further.


What nonsense are you talking about!!! - post me any post I have sent that is blasphemous.

I cannot remember if you welcomed me or not but that’s not relevant to our conversation now. I can’t recall any ‘Jehovah's Witness thread’I have had a quick look and cannot see any – forward me anything I said.

The only little exchanges I have had with you, is you seem to have a pure hatred for Muslims. Yet support those who hate Christians and commit Genocide.

Most of my communication on here has been on Israel and the so-called chosen people – I’m anti-Zionist and proud. And no, the bible does not prompt Zionism or this alleged fallacy of Israel.

Instead of responding with supporting evidence to back your point we get!

Your ranting, divergence and slander - ‘NO SUBSTANCE’!
 
What nonsense are you talking about!!! - post me any post I have sent that is blasphemous.

I cannot remember if you welcomed me or not but that’s not relevant to our conversation now. I can’t recall any ‘Jehovah's Witness thread’I have had a quick look and cannot see any – forward me anything I said.

The only little exchanges I have had with you, is you seem to have a pure hatred for Muslims. Yet support those who hate Christians and commit Genocide.

Most of my communication on here has been on Israel and the so-called chosen people – I’m anti-Zionist and proud. And no, the bible does not prompt Zionism or this alleged fallacy of Israel.

Instead of responding with supporting evidence to back your point we get!

Your ranting, divergence and slander - ‘NO SUBSTANCE’!
If you deny that Israel is the from God choosen Nation, then you ignore God.
 
What nonsense are you talking about!!! - post me any post I have sent that is blasphemous.

I cannot remember if you welcomed me or not but that’s not relevant to our conversation now. I can’t recall any ‘Jehovah's Witness thread’I have had a quick look and cannot see any – forward me anything I said.

The only little exchanges I have had with you, is you seem to have a pure hatred for Muslims. Yet support those who hate Christians and commit Genocide.

Most of my communication on here has been on Israel and the so-called chosen people – I’m anti-Zionist and proud. And no, the bible does not prompt Zionism or this alleged fallacy of Israel.

Instead of responding with supporting evidence to back your point we get!

Your ranting, divergence and slander - ‘NO SUBSTANCE’!

Be serious, genocide? The Hamas and their moneygiver behind are alone responsible for every single killed palastine.
If you defend the Hamas, then you defend criminals, raper sind murderer.

BTW, if Israel would commit genocide, then they are very bad in it!
 
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Be serious, genocide? The Hamas and their moneygiver behind are alone responsible for every single killed palastine.
If you defend the Hamas, then you defend criminals, raper sind murderer.

BTW, if Israel would commit genocide, then they are very bad in it!


with respect - the same 'Israel Narrative' - without a question of doubt a genocide their documenting it themselves - we can criticise America / UK governments, policies, burn our own flags etc - No issues - but as soon as its Israel you are antisemitic.

They have bombed Gaza more then Russia has Ukraine and look at the difference in the size of the area.

As to Israel Gods chosen - everyone keeps banging on about it - I still wait any evidence - more than happy for you to provide any passages - not opinions but sound evidence / passages from the bible! - I look forward to it
 
Seriously, you have to overlook Islams default, of deep religious root, policy of genocide for Israel if you think anyone should take you seriously in calling anyone else genocidal.
 
Seriously, you have to overlook Islams default policy of genocide for Israel if you think anyone should take you seriously in calling anyone else genocidal.

Thats a different point & I’m not defending any terrorist - Israel is the biggest terrorist - they control American & UK policy and its leaders – the kiss Israels ass – if you haven’t notice then your clearly not paying attention to what is going on.

because of them we have gone to war in Iraq and Afghanistan and supported terrorist groups for regime change. the super rich elite who control the world don’t care about terrorist - that’s just a game for them - so they can manipulate opinion to go and fight for oil and make billions in weapons

They called them freedom fighters when Russia invaded Afghanistan and provide weapons, monies, training and when beneficial for them called them terrorist.

Trump met the new Syrian leader - he was once part of ISIS now suddenly he a great Guy - it’s all business
 
Thats a different point & I’m not defending any terrorist - Israel is the biggest terrorist - they control American & UK policy and its leaders – the kiss Israels ass – if you haven’t notice then your clearly not paying attention to what is going on.

because of them we have gone to war in Iraq and Afghanistan and supported terrorist groups for regime change. the super rich elite who control the world don’t care about terrorist - that’s just a game for them - so they can manipulate opinion to go and fight for oil and make billions in weapons

They called them freedom fighters when Russia invaded Afghanistan and provide weapons, monies, training and when beneficial for them called them terrorist.

Trump met the new Syrian leader - he was once part of ISIS now suddenly he a great Guy - it’s all business
I think that it is Isaiah, or is it Jeremiah, which contains the prophecy of Egypt and (As)syria coming around along with Israel as the third. And I suppose we should provide for every chance for that happening. If you believe any government would completely trust any other government, let alone completely trust any particular one within their own government, then you have far removed yourself from the reality of governmental environs.
 
I think that it is Isaiah, or is it Jeremiah, which contains the prophecy of Egypt and (As)syria coming around along with Israel as the third. And I suppose we should provide for every chance for that happening. If you believe any government would completely trust any other government, let alone completely trust any particular one within their own government, then you have far removed yourself from the reality of governmental environs.


provide the passage then I can reply. As to the rest ample evidence Israel has bought all the politicians - the New York debate I heard was very funny - where would you all go first if you won – apart from one - ISRAEL of course lol – they all go kiss the wall because they have to prove their loyalty.
 
provide the passage then I can reply. As to the rest ample evidence Israel has bought all the politicians - the New York debate I heard was very funny - where would you all go first if you won – apart from one - ISRAEL of course lol – they all go kiss the wall because they have to prove their loyalty.

Not everyone is deceptive. If you believe that Israel is deceptive then do you trust in the integrity of Hamas and their allies?
The passage is Isaiah19:25
 
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Notice how if he post something he found on the internet its a lie. But everything you find on the internet is the truth. Strange isint it.

What I find really strange is that people can believe that 1948 was a "divinely inspired regathering" when that "regathering" involved raping, assaulting, brutalizing the indigenous people and forcing from their homes en masse.

Were the indigenous people throwing babies in the fire as human sacrifices?

My One Covenant eschatology does not need to find reasons to defend atrocities.
 
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provide the passage then I can reply. As to the rest ample evidence Israel has bought all the politicians - the New York debate I heard was very funny - where would you all go first if you won – apart from one - ISRAEL of course lol – they all go kiss the wall because they have to prove their loyalty.

Image, upon image of this.
Can we consider this idolatry?
 
Thats a different point & I’m not defending any terrorist - Israel is the biggest terrorist - they control American & UK policy and its leaders – the kiss Israels ass – if you haven’t notice then your clearly not paying attention to what is going on.

because of them we have gone to war in Iraq and Afghanistan and supported terrorist groups for regime change. the super rich elite who control the world don’t care about terrorist - that’s just a game for them - so they can manipulate opinion to go and fight for oil and make billions in weapons

They called them freedom fighters when Russia invaded Afghanistan and provide weapons, monies, training and when beneficial for them called them terrorist.

Trump met the new Syrian leader - he was once part of ISIS now suddenly he a great Guy - it’s all business

Israel started the problem by the way they took the land, so unless you start there the argument will always be tit for tat. imho.
 
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Not everyone is deceptive. If you believe that Israel is deceptive then do you trust in the integrity of Hamas and their allies?
The passage is Isaiah19:25

Israel is known for its strategy of propaganda, it is called Hasbara.
Reframing the narrative as the perpetual victims.

That is why they destroyed the documentation regarding the Nakba, lest there actions come to light too quickly,
thankfully they did not manage to destroy everything.
 
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