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Oh so, now with a bit of research one can see it is not bull.
Tragic how you view things.
No, it is bull. 9 people, not the IDF, the same as when American soldiers were accused. You're saying everyone in the IDF are corrupt murders and rapists that is BULL!
Oh yes they do say "oopsies" that was a mistake, even though they have very advanced weapons and surveillance systems.
Okay next time I will say some in the IDF, although I am pretty sure that that is implied, unlike denying a genocide.
You are in a very, very sad place, but it is by your choice.
It doesn't matter. I'm clear on what you think. When people start with tropes I don't need to ask further.
I believe what the Word says regarding Israel. I don't believe propaganda regarding Israel. It's just that simple.
I am feeling better, thank you! I tagged you because I know you are well versed in Islam. I agree, I don't know how Christians defend it either. Those that do should have to go live in a Muslim majority country for a year so they can understand what Islam is all about.
War is a very tragic thing to happen, lives will be lost, devastation will come about.
For years Israel has been the target of bombings every day. How would you like to live like that?
Oct 7th was well planned by hamas if you can justify this as a retaliation for cruel punishment of Israel your in a very sad place.
Un like the other wars that deal with politics and vested interest Israel is going for the head of the snake.
While your sympathy goes toward the enemy Europe is being over run by the same type of people. Africa as well.
Guess what there coming for you too. Unless you want to deny Christ AND SWARE ALLAH IS LORD.
This is not a war over who's land it is it's about survival of the Jewish peoples and state.
......did you actually read this "fact check" before posting it? It doesn't address any of the newpapers shown but references how they performed a search for the phrase in search engines to generate different results, only to conclude that the 6 million figure is "just one of many references in the U.S. press to the size of Jewish populations before World War II", and then proceeds to referece a 2022 report from a Israeli newspaper claiming there were 6 million deaths.
So since neither you nor they will directly address the content of the newspapers I will take the time and post key portions of each news paper's content for the record just give me some time.
If you're asking me to be serious, I'm asking you to be accurate.
Rome exiled jews from JERUSALEM. not ISRAEL/JUDEA.
Again....
Rome exiled jews from THE CITY OF JERUSALEM. not from THE LAND OF ISRAEL/JUDEA.
People who lived there were called JUDEANS because the land was named JUDEA.
Jews who lived in Judea were called JUDEANS. Samaritans who lived in Judea were called JUDEANS. Romans who lived in Judea were called JUDEANS. WHY? Because that was the name of the land they lived in.
Judea was a PROVINCE of Rome.
Province - 1. a principal administrative division of certain countries or empires; 2. the whole of a country outside the capital, especially when regarded as lacking in sophistication or culture.
The word "province" and a "state" are interchangeable with only slight diffrences if you're dealing with a country or empire. The PROVINCE of Judea had a semi-independent government under Rome.
Rome RENAMED the PROVINCE after the revolt. They didn't dissolve the PROVINCE. They renamed it.
The PROVINCE was renamed Syria-Palestine. The same governmental structure existed after the renaming as before the renaming.
Syria-Palestine was a PROVINCE of Rome
Jews who lived in Palestine were called PALESTINIANS. Samaritans who lived in Palestine were called PALESTINIANS. Romans who lived in Palestine were called PALESTINIANS. WHY? Because that was the new name of the land they lived in.
...Are you starting to understand yet?
Fast-forward to Arabs conquering the land. They made to official religion islam and encouraged all inhabitants to convert (no differnce than when John Hyrcanus conquered Judea and forced all the inhabitants to convert to Judaism). But with the Muslims, those who didn't convert were required to pay a tax. Many converted, some did not. Eventually Jews were allowed back into THE CITY OF JERUSALEM though they were never exiled from the LAND and PROVINCE of PALESTINE.
Matthew 15:14
...if the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into the ditch.
I'm following your logic. You said no one who commits a genocide gives people time to leave. So then by your logic, Nazi Germany didn't commit a genocide since they gave 8 years for Jewish people to go? I'm trying to follow your trail.
I'm going to assume you know there are three branches of the US government and that the legislative branch introduces bills, too. Hence, the attempt to redefine the term antisemitism.
You seem intimidated by your favorite passage. I'm asking you to do what we're commanded to do.
2 Timothy 2:15
Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
Again...
The way prophecies work is that people have to experience what was prophesied to happen to them; otherwise, the prophecies are wrong or the people are wrong. We don't conform scripture to fit what we see happening. We measure/weigh what is happening against the words of scripture because the Word is the immutable truth. Come, let's reason together using your favorite passage on this topic, Romans 11:
1. During their blindness/hardening, they're also supposed to be "diminished" WHILE the Gentiles are elevated and gain riches UNTIL the time of the Gentiles be fulfilled, correct? Are we still in the time of the Gentiles per your eschatological reckoning?
2. They're also supposed to be spurred by jealousy or envy because of the Gentiles receiving salvation, correct? Have you heard of any sentiments where these modern folks are jealous of Christian Goyim for any reason?
3. Their backs are supposed to be bent always (suggesting servitude or subservience) during the time of the Gentiles. Are these modern folks bent over in subservience to any nations, or are nations subservient to them?
You've commented on everything else I've replied to you, let's dive into the actual bible.
Guilt by association, Ad hominem. Petty barbs.
Better to be accused of defending a false religion than to be accused of defending baby killers because they were born into the wrong religion.
Since this is the bible study room, could either of you tell me where Islam is prophesied in the Book of Revelation? It's in there, I assure you, but I'd be interested in your takes on it.
He said, against Hamas everything is legitimate.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/israel...soner-alleged-rape-sde-teinman-abuse-protest/
All pretense is falling away. And the state is being seen for what it has always been: A godless terrorist state. When their army was founded by established terrorist groups, how else do we expect them to act?
Haganah
Irgun
Lehi
It is a Genocide/Mass Starvation/Ethnic Cleansing/Mowing the Lawn/Open Air Prison/Occupation start there and maybe I might pay attention to the rest.
Maybe find out who supported and propped up Hamas?
Do you really want to go back to the start of all this?
Lies, all of it are lies. All one has to do is look up the history and they'll know you are spreading propaganda and lies.
Her comment was "the IDF rapes their prisoners". Does Abu Ghraib prison ring a bell??? So does that mean American soldiers sexually abuse their prisoners? I'm sure someone in these forums has served. Anyone want to speak to the point I'm making? 9 people out of some 169,500 soldiers!! Cut out the propaganda!
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