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lrs68

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I'm sorry, but it doesn't, brother.


Firstly...

This portion that you shared has one fatal flaw:


if I call myself Cohen tomorrow, and someone extracts my DNA to match up with someone in the south, anyone who matches my DNA is kin to me, but that doesn't mean those people are also Cohenim simply because I identify as Cohenim...nor does it mean I am a Cohen simply because i've identified myself as such. Without matching the ancient bones of the ancestors to modern people, the DNA results you've mentioned merely show who is related to each other in our modern time. It's circular logic.


Next...

A Cohen/priest isn't an ethnicity, it's a role. By the old covenant law, all tribes were restricted from being priests. Only the house of Aaron of the tribe of Levi was allowed to be priests since they sided with Moses at the sin of the golden calf. Moses and Aaron are Levites, not Jews. Any Jew who identified as a priest was a false priest, which is what many converted transplants were during the Hasmonean dynasty. Many Edomites and Samaritans were converted into "Jews" by John Hyrcanus I, and a "Jewish priesthood" was established apart from the true Levitical priesthood just before the time of Christ (which is why John the Baptist was living in the wilderness separate from the religious leadership as a levite and true aaronic priest). Then factions grew from the "Jewish priesthood": the Pharisees and Sadducees.


Now...

Here are two excerpts from two sources on the subject, one is a scientific study and the other is an academic article.


For a more scientific take on the Jewish origin debate, recent DNA analysis of Ashkenazic Jews – a Jewish ethnic group – revealed that their maternal line is European. It has also been found that their DNA only has 3% ancient ancestry which links them with the Eastern Mediterranean (also known as the Middle East) – namely Israel, Lebanon, parts of Syria, and western Jordan. This is the part of the world Jewish people are said to have originally come from - according to the Old Testament. But 3% is a minuscule amount, and similar to what modern Europeans as a whole share with Neanderthals. So given that the genetic ancestry link is so low, Ashkenazic Jews’ most recent ancestors must be from elsewhere.

Source: https://theconversation.com/ashkena...led-by-scientists-thanks-to-ancient-dna-97962


In our previous work we have identified “ancient Ashkenaz,” a region in northeastern Turkey that harbors four primeval villages whose names resemble Ashkenaz. Here, we elaborate on the meaning of this term and argue that it acquired its modern meaning only after a critical mass of Ashkenazic Jews arrived in Germany. We show that all bio-localization analyses have localized AJs to Turkey and that the non-Levantine origins of AJs are supported by ancient genome analyses.

Source: https://www.frontiersin.org/journals/genetics/articles/10.3389/fgene.2017.00087/full


Finally...

Revelation 12:12-13
And to the angel of the church in Pergamos write; These things saith he which hath the sharp sword with two edges;

13 I know thy works, and where thou dwellest, even where Satan's seat is: and thou holdest fast my name, and hast not denied my faith, even in those days wherein Antipas was my faithful martyr, who was slain among you, where Satan dwelleth.


...and where was Pergamos?




This is why DNA research is illegal in Israel without express authorization. They're trying to hide the truth even from their own citizens.
Actually, there's a common marker in DNA that every real Jew possess. So no matter how much you blather if a person has that specific DNA marker it connects to the most ancient DNA we have in record. Only true Jews carry this marker. It's factually in the blood. I expect you to reject the truth because for your doctrine to exist you must deny truth and facts.
 

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Actually, there's a common marker in DNA that every real Jew possess. So no matter how much you blather if a person has that specific DNA marker it connects to the most ancient DNA we have in record. Only true Jews carry this marker. It's factually in the blood. I expect you to reject the truth because for your doctrine to exist you must deny truth and facts.
Well, as long as you say so, it must be true. I concede.
 
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Well, as long as you say so, it must be true. I concede.
I will tell you something about me. Im a jew from my mom's side. She did a DNA test and they traced it back to 2 cousins around the time of David of the ashkenaz line. From the Armenian region. Thats pretty dang specific. In fact her dad belonged to some super orthodox church that had some kind of written records that went back who knows how far. Now when he married my grandma. Even though she was a jew she didnt have a traceable bloodline. They kicked him out of the church for marring some one who couldn't be confirmed from a certain tribe. Made him pay some ridiculous fee that was more than the cost of a house at the time. Trust me there's records written and now in DNA that go way back.
 
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You really are a sucker if you believe this imo
Its not up to me to believe or not believe she did one that's what they told her. You conveniently left out the part about an actual written bloodline independent of the DNA test. About my grandfather marring someone from an untraceable line. That was a fact. Not subject to someone at a DNA shop intentionally skewing data for some kind of reason.
 
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Genealogy is such a vain, stupid thing to place any importance on

But avoid foolish questions, and genealogies, and contentions, and strivings about the law; for they are useless and vain. Titus 3:9
Neither give heed to fables and unending genealogies, which minister questions, rather than godly edifying which is in faith. 1 Timothy 1:4
 

lrs68

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Genealogy is such a vain, stupid thing to place any importance on

But avoid foolish questions, and genealogies, and contentions, and strivings about the law; for they are useless and vain. Titus 3:9
Neither give heed to fables and unending genealogies, which minister questions, rather than godly edifying which is in faith. 1 Timothy 1:4
And it was shed BLOOD that saves us. Blood is everything. DNA is BLOOD. Of course you would dismiss the importance of BLOOD because it's truly the purest way to prove people from one generation to the next including the past.

The fact is that the Jews living in Israel today have the same bloodlines as the people who exited Egypt led by Moshe and Aaron and even go back to Abraham and before.

BLOOD is the key to life, lineage, genealogy, family. It's the purest evidence of anything else to prove ethnicity.

No wonder you hate DNA. It's the greatest evidence that proves your doctrine is WRONG!!
 
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And it was shed BLOOD that saves us. Blood is everything. DNA is BLOOD. Of course you would dismiss the importance of BLOOD because it's truly the purest way to prove people from one generation to the next including the past.

The fact is that the Jews living in Israel today have the same bloodlines as the people who exited Egypt led by Moshe and Aaron and even go back to Abraham and before.

BLOOD is the key to life, lineage, genealogy, family. It's the purest evidence of anything else to prove ethnicity.

No wonder you hate DNA. It's the greatest evidence that proves your doctrine is WRONG!!
Lev 17:11 For the life of the flesh is in the blood: and I have given it to you upon the altar to make an atonement for your souls: for it is the blood that maketh an atonement for the soul.
 

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You really are a sucker if you believe this imo
Its not up to me to believe or not believe she did one that's what they told her. You conveniently left out the part about an actual written bloodline independent of the DNA test. About my grandfather marring someone from an untraceable line. That was a fact. Not subject to someone at a DNA shop intentionally skewing data for some kind of reason.
Proof that bearded dragons are jews

these dna tests are really trustworthy. ive done one and i also got ashkenazi jew, i also got some sephardic jew, i got matches from ethiopia to iceland. not joking
 
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Im kind of leary of having my DNA in some data base. If I am alive when the beast appears makes it kind of easy to track me down. Just my thought on the matter. But since my mom did one im basically in one anyways.
 
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And it was shed BLOOD that saves us. Blood is everything. DNA is BLOOD. Of course you would dismiss the importance of BLOOD because it's truly the purest way to prove people from one generation to the next including the past.

The fact is that the Jews living in Israel today have the same bloodlines as the people who exited Egypt led by Moshe and Aaron and even go back to Abraham and before.

BLOOD is the key to life, lineage, genealogy, family. It's the purest evidence of anything else to prove ethnicity.

No wonder you hate DNA. It's the greatest evidence that proves your doctrine is WRONG!!
The flesh profits nothing. You've got something going on in your head that isn't the faith of Christ

It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profits nothing: the words that I speak unto you, [they] are spirit, and [they] are life. But there are some of you that believe not. For Jesus knew from the beginning who they were that believed not, and who should betray him. John 6:63-64
 

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And it was shed BLOOD that saves us. Blood is everything. DNA is BLOOD. Of course you would dismiss the importance of BLOOD because it's truly the purest way to prove people from one generation to the next including the past.

The fact is that the Jews living in Israel today have the same bloodlines as the people who exited Egypt led by Moshe and Aaron and even go back to Abraham and before.

BLOOD is the key to life, lineage, genealogy, family. It's the purest evidence of anything else to prove ethnicity.

No wonder you hate DNA. It's the greatest evidence that proves your doctrine is WRONG!!
I recall a certain German leader making a similar claim, an Italian guy and Venezuelan guy, too. A few in Africa, and even some Canadian priests. Such claims led to the death of 100s of thousands. Many native people died because people in the U.S. believed such things. In fact, people continue being killed from all over the world because of such thinking: "my flesh is better than your flesh".

Thank God, in His Kingdom, "Flesh has no value".

Here's an interesting fact: The destruction of the temple in 70AD led to the loss of primarily two genealogies: Judah and David. That means no future Messiah can be verified by official genealogical records. He has already appeared.

"You will not see me again until you say 'Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord'"

His name is Christ Jesus.
 

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Well, as long as you say so, it must be true. I concede.
I notice this as well, keep repeating the same lines, ad nauseam, with nothing to support the claim.

Of course that is how they were convinced, by constant repetition, so they think that is all it takes!!
 
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As far as the "most heinous act," I doubt the official number of casualties because the math doesn't add up.
So if it was 1 million instead of 6 that would change anything?

And I find it suspicious that for other groups who were victims of atrocities, society tells them to "move on it's in the past"
Such as?

but for that act we're told to "never forget" and in some nations it's a crime to even question the account. Like literally a punishable crime. That's suspiciously controling.

Currently, 17 European countries,along with Canada and Israel, have laws in place that cover Holocaust denial as a punishable offence. Many countries also have broader laws that criminalise genocide denial as a whole, including that of the Holocaust. Among the countries that have banned Holocaust denial, Austria, Germany, Hungary, Poland, Romania and Russia have also banned Nazi symbols. Additionally, any expression of genocide justification is also a criminal offence in several countries, as is any attempt to portray Nazism in a positive light.


I think it's done for a reason, to make sure it never happens again to anyone, not just the Jewish people. The point at the time was to stop the Nazi's lies and denials of what they had done. That was why the German people were forced to walk through the camps, so no one could deny what took place.