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You should recheck. The Bible clearly teaches that the fear of the Lord is beginning of wisdom.
We have grown to expect a higher quality of troll on this site. Please up your game.
Come on, man. You can do better. Don't you want to be the best troll you can be?
And thank you for printing that all out! Their main issue is this, they don't want Israel to exist. Kinda kills the peace process pretty quick.
Because I can be assured you have read every single historical primary source document that pertained to the negotiations over the years.
They have made peace with other countries, giving up land. Israel sits on 1% of the land in the ME and that's still too much according to Muslims.
And yet Palestine was kicked out of 3 other Arab countries because they couldn't be trusted.
At the beginning of the war Egypt built a wall to keep them out.
No one offered to take the refugees.
Egypt finally offered to take some women and children if in need of medical attention. Mostly cancer treatment patients and diabetic.
Sang praises at 911.
Commended there children for the rapeing and murder they did Oct 7th
Yeah theses are the neighbors I'd want moving in next door.
Those who support their cause are twisted ....and are number with them.
At the beginning of the war Egypt built a wall to keep them out.
No one offered to take the refugees.
Egypt finally offered to take some women and children if in need of medical attention. Mostly cancer treatment patients and diabetic.
Sang praises at 911.
Commended there children for the rapeing and murder they did Oct 7th
Yeah theses are the neighbors I'd want moving in next door.
Those who support their cause are twisted ....and are number with them.
I am very much a doubter, at least as far as the nation of Israel - earthly Israel - is concerned.
But there are two Israels mentioned in scripture, not one: 1) the earthly kingdom of Israel and, 2) spiritual Israel. The earthly kingdom
of Israel is no longer God's wife - God divorced it for spiritual fornications and therefore it is no longer is the object of His blessings - although certain residual parts of God's promises may remain in effect for a while but eventually will end. The other Israel - spiritual Israel - the true church - is the bride of God and the one having God's eternal blessings. Scripture does not always make clear which is in view, so it must be surmised relative to context, subject, and by comparing spiritual with spiritual. Generally speaking, though, if God's eternal blessing is being discussed relative to a nation, then spiritual Israel is the nation in view.
Regarding the twelve tribes mentioned above, they represent spiritual Israel, not earthly Israel. This can be seen based upon the following verses. You will need to read them closely to follow their message.
Notice in them, that only the saved can sing the "new song" - those with the Father's name in their foreheads. The hundred and forty and four thousand therefore is a symbolic number that represents all of the saved, so, it is not a literal number. Only the "redeemed of the earth" could learn the "new song". The "new song" that only they can "sing", is the belief of the true gospel.
[Psa 149:1 KJV]
1 Praise ye the LORD. Sing unto the LORD a new song, [and] his praise in the congregation of saints.
[Rev 5:9 KJV]
9 And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation;
[Rev 14:1, 3 KJV]
1 And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Sion, and with him an hundred forty [and] four thousand, having his Father's name written in their foreheads. ...
3 And they sung as it were a new song before the throne, and before the four beasts, and the elders: and no man could learn that song but the hundred [and] forty [and] four thousand, which were redeemed from the earth.
Again with the generalizations, over-simplifications and the talking points you have been told.
I don't know why people have to "spiritualise" what they do not understand. Why can you not accept that when God says 144,000 He means just that? Some of the most learned scripture teachers take that passage literally. Chuck Missler is one, Derek Prince another. I've only recently become interested in eschatology. I've been too concerned with the present to look at the future. Events in Israel and much of the world's wicked response have got me thinking.
I'll not go over why I believe modern Israel is God's work. I've done that often enough. However, to clarify, that does not mean that I believe Israel to be some kind of spiritual paradise. It is a mess, as it was pretty much from the time that Joshua died. There were bright spots, but much of Israel's history was rebellion and idolatry. Only in David and Solomon's time did Israel reach it's godly potential.
I believe that Israel will soon enter a golden age. The enemies that surround her are (reluctantly) seeking peace. Israel is in the habit of letting its guard down after winning a war. The northern nations that will attack in the tribulation time will almost overpower an Israel that is relatively weak. America will be sidelined. I don't know how, but the events in Texas show that no nation is exempt from natural disasters.
This is a huge subject and I can only begin to scratch the surface. Suffice to say that my studies have led to my conclusions.
Yes, of course it is! Facts matter. It's easy enough to find the truth. It's not like it's not there to be found.
Nope these are facts. Israel has 1% of the land in the ME. They have a right to a homeland, their homeland. Period.
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