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HeIsHere

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They have never committed genocide. Even though they have a reason to.
There is never a reason to commit genocide in the modern age .. wow, and yet here we have that nation which lives in perpetual victimhood doing that very thing.

I am really going to have to put you on ignore, you preach against the Gospel of Christ Jesus ultimately and you are blind to it and you worship a group of people as though they are some master race, it is very disturbing, my spirit is very, very grieved.
 
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Usual, you and others overlook / ignore all the points / evidence provided - it’s only following Jesus that saves you. So, you either didn’t read it properly or don’t understand

And always come back with the same rubbish God promised / forever / everlasting - which I have dealt with previously (but conveniently ignored) - even the learned Jews don’t say forever as they know the word 'olam' doesn’t mean that.


A Couple of points before I explain the forever / everlastings.

Abraham was not a Jew, nor was Issac or Jacob (his name was Israel – not a name of a country)– the word Jew came long after.

We have Christian Jews & Arabs – from this one should understand that Jew is a race, nation not a religion.

The people were ordered to follow Abraham - Genesis 12:3 – I bless those who bless you (Abraham) – can be any race, colour or area.



Conditional – exodus 19:5-6 – “if you obey me fully and keep my covenant,..”


Jeramiah 11:10 – they have turned back going after other Gods – how could they have broken my covenant


Descendent – Most Jews of today are NOT descendants of Jacob – as I explained they are ‘Khazars’ converts to Judaism – and Ashkenazi (majority of Jews today) are from them – they have no ancestral ties to Abraham or Jacob etc and are not Semites. They are European Jews from what is now Russia, moved to eastern Europe and from there onwards.

They follow the Talmud not the Torah which they see as just historical, apart from when they want to commit Genocide.

Hence why Israel has banned DNA - what are the scared of?



Where are Abrahams MANY nations – if only one race the Jews?

Genesis 17:4–5

4 As for me, behold, my covenant is with thee, and thou shalt be a father of many nations.5 Neither shall thy name any more be called Abram, but thy name shall be Abraham; for a father of many nations have I made thee.


As to forever;


  • Strong's Concordance 5769

    olam: long duration, antiquity, futurity

    Original Word: עוֹלָם
    Part of Speech: Noun Masculine
    Transliteration: olam
    Phonetic Spelling: (o-lawm')
    Definition: long duration, antiquity, futurity

    le’olam - denotes a very long period of time, but nonetheless has an end point.
    ad olam – forever (possibly)
    olam - long duration, antiquity, futurity


SO NOT FOREVER



    • Jeremiah 31: 31 “The days are coming,” declares the Lord, “when I will make a new covenant with the people of Israel and with the people of Judah. 32 It will not be like the covenant I made with their ancestors when I took them by the hand to lead them out of Egypt, because they broke my covenant, though I was a husband to them,” declares the Lord.


      [if forever, everlasting - why a 'new convent' not like those with your ancestors?]
Note: Jeremiah came long after Abraham, Issac, Jacob – so a new covenant – not like ancestors so is Abrahms everlasting or NOT?

a conflict after one passage


Isaiah 32: 14 For the palace will be forsaken, the busy city abandoned. The hill and the watchtower will become caves forever (‘ō-w-lām)—the delight of wild donkeys and a pasture for flocks—

15 until the Spirit is poured out upon us from on high. Then the desert will be an orchard, and the orchard will seem like a forest.


SO IS IT forever or until?


Please show me where I am incorrect - Probably all will be ignored when not able to respond!
Same rubbish which makes it a waste of time, I find it deeply grieving to say the least, this veneration of a group of people the very opposite of what Jesus taught.

We can only pray that new Christians are not taught these lies.
Just to let you know I appreciate your effort, this level of indoctrination is incomprehensible to me.

When someone started to show me the various things that did not line up I slowly began to question what I was taught.

This doctrine is going to destroy our world, children are being killed and it is being cheered, God says they can have the land is a tremendous lie to cover for more and more killing.

It is really sick.
 

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Doesn't matter what you think your English version is nowhere close to both the Hebrew meaning nor Numerical Values.
Your Hebrew text is around 1000 years older than the LXX. Masorah means tradition and the Masoretes altered the text when it conflicted with their traditions. So in this case I'll go with the LXX and DSS. Gematria is a snare of the devil IMO.
 

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Your Hebrew text is around 1000 years older than the LXX. Masorah means tradition and the Masoretes altered the text when it conflicted with their traditions. Gematria is a snare of the devil IMO. So in this case I'll go with the LXX and DSS
Your Greek is known as Hellenized because it's PAGAN in origin. If you studied how it came to pass Scribes were forced to create it and on key facts they manipulated the truth.
 
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There is never a reason to commit genocide in the modern age .. wow, and yet here we have that nation which lives in perpetual victimhood doing that very thing.
Mmm yeah if you had your enemy tunneling into your country and popping up in your house you might change your mind. No matter what Israel has tried for peace, Hamas has refused. Like I said, even Clinton said they couldn't be pleased. I didn't say it should happen, I said they have a reason to.



I am really going to have to put you on ignore,
Bye!


you preach against the Gospel of Christ Jesus ultimately and you are blind to it and you worship a group of people as though they are some master race, it is very disturbing, my spirit is very, very grieved.
Well, don't be grieved, nothing you said there is true. I'm grieved because you can't understand God's love and mercy is for the Jews too. And that you can't see how important Israel is to God. Or that you're closed to any end time prophesy, just because it has the Jews involved. smh
 
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Your Greek is known as Hellenized because it's PAGAN in origin. If you studied how it came to pass Scribes were forced to create it and on key facts they manipulated the truth.
The OT quotes of the writers of the NT match the LXX, not the MT, proving that they used the LXX or a pre-MT Hebrew text that matches it.
 
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God gave the order and of course it wasn't wrong because the land needed to be cleansed of evil for his purposes.. God has never given the order to anyone today to do such a thing.
You do understand that by allowing it to happen He is giving the order. Every single thing good or bad is in accordance to his will. Hitler, ww1, 1776. All these things happened for a reason. A reason only God can know with his infinite wisdom as he executes his plan. Look at Job dudes hole family was massacred everything he owned stolen and he was sitting in the dirt with his skin falling off. All because Satan wanted to try to get him to curse God. Not because he did anything wrong. By the end of the story when God emerges from the whirlwind and says "will you declare yourself righteous so you can judge Me" it is blanteny obvious the moral of the story is we dont understand God's plan so let God be God.
 

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The OT quotes of the writers of the NT match the LXX, not the MT, proving that they used the LXX or a pre-MT Hebrew text that matches it.
In some versions but they also use examples like God is powerful as a UNICORN.

Thankfully most of the Greek was in Synagogues only. The Temple held the Hebrew.

Of course it doesn't matter now because we have no need for a Temple but the Version GOD GAVE TO MOSHE is still the only truth that will ever exist.
 

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Imagine thinking that selling bullets, bombs, and tanks to a certain country is worshiping God.
I repent of all the times I thought this way, I am sickened by it.
I cannot believe it when I think back.
And yet I am so, so grateful that God delivered me, words cannot express how it changed my walk with the Lord.

I am also so thankful for the fact there are few others on this message board and is becoming increasingly so, some people are so hardened in their hearts because they support and defend the actions of this treacherous nation.
It does not have a good effect on a person's spiritual walk or their emotional well being.
 

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ugh. No evidence for this whatsoever
הַנְּפִלִ֞ים הָי֣וּ בָאָ֘רֶץ֮ בַּיָּמִ֣ים הָהֵם֒ וְגַ֣ם אַֽחֲרֵי־כֵ֗ן אֲשֶׁ֨ר יָבֹ֜אוּ בְּנֵ֤י הָֽאֱלֹהִים֙ אֶל־בְּנ֣וֹת הָֽאָדָ֔ם וְיָלְד֖וּ לָהֶ֑ם הֵ֧מָּההַגִּבֹּרִ֛ים אֲשֶׁ֥ר מֵעוֹלָ֖ם אַנְשֵׁ֥י הַשֵּֽׁם׃פ}
It was then, and later too, that the Nephilim appeared on earth—when divine beings cohabited with the human women, who bore them offspring. Such were the heroes of old, the men of renown