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Gideon300 said:
Believe what you want. Events right now are proving you wrong. Never mind, one day you might get it.

Do you know what a graft is in horticulture? The graft does not destroy the plant. The church is grafted into the "tree" of Israel. Salvation is of the Jews after all.
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Christ Jesus is Israel, very plain so see in scripture.
 
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ThereRoseaLamb said:
And Arabs name streets after anyone who has murdered a Jew. They teach their children to sing songs about killing Jews. They have a grudge against each other, since when is this news? smh Palestinians closed shops, to go toss explosives at Jews probably.
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Oh well, you defend their power structure no matter what they do, even when it affects Americans, so there is that.
 
HeIsHere said:
Jews do not have Christ Jesus as their root so you have a huge problem with your doctrine.
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If some of the branches have been broken off, and you, though a wild olive shoot, have been grafted in among the others and now share in the nourishing sap from the olive root, 18 do not consider yourself to be superior to those other branches. If you do, consider this: You do not support the root, but the root supports you. 19 You will say then, “Branches were broken off so that I could be grafted in.” 20 Granted. But they were broken off because of unbelief, and you stand by faith. Do not be arrogant, but tremble. 21 For if God did not spare the natural branches, he will not spare you either.

And if they do not persist in unbelief, they will be grafted in, for God is able to graft them in again. 24 After all, if you were cut out of an olive tree that is wild by nature, and contrary to nature were grafted into a cultivated olive tree, how much more readily will these, the natural branches, be grafted into their own olive tree!

You're wrong.
 
ThereRoseaLamb said:
If some of the branches have been broken off, and you, though a wild olive shoot, have been grafted in among the others and now share in the nourishing sap from the olive root, 18 do not consider yourself to be superior to those other branches. If you do, consider this: You do not support the root, but the root supports you. 19 You will say then, “Branches were broken off so that I could be grafted in.” 20 Granted. But they were broken off because of unbelief, and you stand by faith. Do not be arrogant, but tremble. 21 For if God did not spare the natural branches, he will not spare you either.

And if they do not persist in unbelief, they will be grafted in, for God is able to graft them in again. 24 After all, if you were cut out of an olive tree that is wild by nature, and contrary to nature were grafted into a cultivated olive tree, how much more readily will these, the natural branches, be grafted into their own olive tree!

You're wrong.
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Christ Jesus it the root. Deal with it.
 
Lifted_by_the_word said:
You know why the Jewish people killed Jesus?Because they were predestined too.God set them aside to preform the duties and handing of the tabernacle in the OT.They would literally get blood on their hands sprinkling of the blood on the Ark of the Covenant.
They certainly got blood on their hands when they chose Barabbas over an innocent man.

I'm saying that God used the Israelites as he did in the OT to perform the final blood sacrifice.His ways are higher than ours.God didn't punish the Jewish people for the death of Jesus.

Matthew 27:24-25
When Pilate saw that he could prevail nothing, but that rather a tumult was made, he took water, and washed his hands before the multitude, saying, I am innocent of the blood of this just person: see ye to it.
Then answered all the people, and said, His blood be on us, and on our children.
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And I just love how God does these things.He fixes what satan tries to destroy.When the people proclaimed "his blood be on us,and our children,they meant they accept responsibility for his death.

But Jesus came for the sinners.His blood be on us and our children.
 
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ThereRoseaLamb said:
So Jesus has borders does He? :rolleyes:
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New Covenant.

Dispensationalism is dying, praise God

7 For if there had been nothing wrong with that first covenant, no place would have been sought for another. 8 But God found fault with the people and said[b]:

“The days are coming, declares the Lord,
when I will make a new covenant
with the people of Israel
and with the people of Judah.
9 It will not be like the covenant
I made with their ancestors
when I took them by the hand
to lead them out of Egypt,
because they did not remain faithful to my covenant,
and I turned away from them,
declares the Lord.
10 This is the covenant I will establish with the people of Israel
after that time, declares the Lord.
I will put my laws in their minds
and write them on their hearts.
I will be their God,
and they will be my people.
11 No longer will they teach their neighbor,
or say to one another, ‘Know the Lord,’
because they will all know me,
from the least of them to the greatest.
12 For I will forgive their wickedness
and will remember their sins no more.”[c]

13 By calling this covenant “new,” he has made the first one obsolete; and what is obsolete and outdated will soon disappear.
 
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