This poster keeps repeating this lie. The land was not stolen and it's easily debunked. And has been over and over again in all these threads but he and several others continue to push this lie.
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This poster keeps repeating this lie. The land was not stolen and it's easily debunked. And has been over and over again in all these threads but he and several others continue to push this lie.
Well here's the down low. Hamas didn't come out of nowhere. They have a past
First “ Hamas “ doesn’t identify the gazan people that’s a radical sect of then tbat took power over them
and sure they do don’t come from nowhere about a hundred years ago they had a nation that Zionist came and slaughtered them from so they put the “problematic “ Jews that they didint want in tbier own countries there . I agree the gazans who live there still didint come from nowhere they been there for a very very very long time. and Hamas is a recent offshoot of the terrorism that plagued the mid east coming from Iran
what hamas did was terrible ehat they do is terrible …….what israel does to them also is terrible both sides have gripes and blame bit really the world who forced this situation is who caused it
Drawing from more than two-dozen state, army, and kibbutzim archives, in addition to journals of key figures, Raz illustrates in painstaking and often hard-to-read detail the extent to which Zionist Jewish settlers were able to confiscate the homes and properties of terrorized Palestinians who had fled the war—temporarily, they thought, having no reason to believe that their departure would be permanent. Whatever these Zionists saw, they coveted and plundered. They descended like jackals on well-maintained homes and stripped them of their furnishings; they stole from people they knew, like their neighbors, and from residents in other towns; they went on foot individually and in groups and took what they could carry, hauling larger items on trucks. They were civilians, as well as soldiers and police officers.
Adam Raz’s meticulously researched Loot: How Israel Stole Palestinian Property demonstrates in distressing detail that, far from taking over a barren, uninhabited landscape, Zionist forces and Jewish settlers violently and brazenly looted the well-furnished homes, stocked businesses, and lovingly tended farms and orchards of displaced Palestinians.
In the words of Thomas Suarez, “Israel took over an intact, ready-made country—houses, assets, money, orchards, quarries, 10,000 acres of vineyards, 25,000 acres of citrus groves, 10,000 business establishments, olive groves, and machinery.”1 For these conquerors, it was all theirs for the taking.
Adam Raz’s meticulously researched Loot: How Israel Stole Palestinian Property demonstrates in distressing detail that, far from taking over a barren, uninhabited landscape, Zionist forces and Jewish settlers violently and brazenly looted the well-furnished homes, stocked businesses, and lovingly tended farms and orchards of displaced Palestinians.
In the words of Thomas Suarez, “Israel took over an intact, ready-made country—houses, assets, money, orchards, quarries, 10,000 acres of vineyards, 25,000 acres of citrus groves, 10,000 business establishments, olive groves, and machinery.”1 For these conquerors, it was all theirs for the taking.
Agree people want to avoid the context and what gave rise to acts of terrorism, it did not start in a vacuum.
Yes that’s exactly what I think the issue is you nailed it
If you support israel they are the white knights who are being opposed and assaulted by the evil terrorists . And there’s some truth to it
and if you support Palestinians , osssel is the evil suppressor who you are freedom fighting against …. And there’s some truth to it . So if we need to slaughter some innocents and take some hostages …..then it’s justified
apt of we want to decimate and eradicate the people wanting our land and claiming it , then thier actuons “ justify “ what we’re doing in self defense …..
it’s a cycle that’s been foretold and ongoing for generations
When they finished helping themselves to home furnishings, they started to dismantle the homes themselves.
Beyond food, Zionist forces and Jewish settlers lifted Palestinians’ invaluable personal belongings. In letters to her daughter explaining her life in Jerusalem before and during the war, for example, Zakia Hajjar recounts:
Our old neighbors and friends in Lower Baq‘a helped us piece together what had happened to our house. After Daoud [her brother] was kidnapped at gunpoint from our home, Israeli soldiers and civilians looted it. All of our belongings were stolen—Papa’s leather-bound books, Mama’s paintings, the furniture, even the pots and pans. Later, three Jewish families moved into the house and subdivided it.4
https://www.jerusalemstory.com/en/blog/looting-palestinian-jerusalem-1948
Beyond food, Zionist forces and Jewish settlers lifted Palestinians’ invaluable personal belongings. In letters to her daughter explaining her life in Jerusalem before and during the war, for example, Zakia Hajjar recounts:
Our old neighbors and friends in Lower Baq‘a helped us piece together what had happened to our house. After Daoud [her brother] was kidnapped at gunpoint from our home, Israeli soldiers and civilians looted it. All of our belongings were stolen—Papa’s leather-bound books, Mama’s paintings, the furniture, even the pots and pans. Later, three Jewish families moved into the house and subdivided it.4
https://www.jerusalemstory.com/en/blog/looting-palestinian-jerusalem-1948
It may be what initiates the gathering of nations against Israel preceding Jesus return with fire
They will always lie because that's their sad little job. Not that it matters! God's word and promises will always stand. Long after their bodies decay to dust, the Jews and Israel will still be here going strong.
I really wouldn't fret that more and more of them are coming out of the wood work to express their hate for Jews, Israel and Zion. This was prophesied in the Bible after all.
I do not consider this prophetic because I do not think that the establishment of a secular state is prophetic.
God dealt with Israel in 70 AD, they were the ones with whom God had a covenant.
2000+ years in the future goes against the very words of Christ Jesus and HIS warnings all throughout the New Testament.
Very good point I failed to mention this.
Many who have written on this are Israeli, and many are persecuted severely for their honesty.
I believe they will be gathering against Jesus and his resurrected/translated people standing in the holy land.
“KEY point, Israel is fighting to survive and has given the enemy a chance to to live in peace but guess what? They don't want it.”
yet who are the ones starving and trapped like rats ? Palestinians are also fighting fornthier existsnce infact much more so than Israel . We have “recency amnesia “. You are talking aboit a conflict that began before the first millennia as if it began on Oct 7th
But ….. it didn’t . Before modern day israel became “a Jewish state “ it eas filled with from border to border Palestinians.
after ww2 the world had a Jewish problem other nations were beginning to take the approach Germany began to take in the beginning of the holocaust . People didont want in such a deoelressed financial time as tbat to have to take care of Jews tbat were scattered into all nations .
ado the warlords who were victorious in ww2 got together with the powers in the Middle East and decided mostly by the west , tbat the Jews needed to have thier own land sonthey could get out of thier lands and stop the financial burdens and social conflicts these foreigners were causing
at he current “Jewish state ofnisrael “ was created as a solution to the Jewish immigration problem that many nations were facing after ww2
were they in the wrong and terrorists when they lived peaceful lives in the land they were born in and raised in ? When the zionists came to slaughter and remove them using the excuse “ this is gods will “
they had been there hindreds of years since a time after rome ruled over israel and the Jewish dispersia….then they were attacked and slaughtered in order to push Jews into the land they had been living in for generations
things today aren’t where this began even ww2 isn’t where it began look way back to Muhammad and the Muslim crusades .
there have been atrocities on both sides for hundreds of years alternating back and forth ….as war always creates
Yeah a lot of people do . I think it’s setting this up
“But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness, looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?
Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.”
2 Peter 3:10-13 KJV
lol I was reading a review of this book which has this:
"Another senior writer at Haaretz, Gideon Levy, commented that the words “most of the Jews are thieves”, “wasn’t uttered by an antisemitic leader, a Jew hater or a neo-Nazi, but by the founder of the State of Israel, two months after it was founded.”"
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https://www.haaretz.com/opinion/202...-thieves/0000017f-e504-df5f-a17f-ffdeaf5a0000
I understand there are many views on eschatology, however, what I can NOT deal with, is when the history is not dealt with honestly
instead it is replaced with mythology (born in a day!) and propaganda and then attempting to justify the actions of the IDF/Government
by starting in the middle of the conflict!
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