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48:9 For my name's sake will I defer mine anger, and for my praise will I refrain for thee, that I cut thee not off.

Isa 48:10 Behold, I have refined thee, but not with silver; I have chosen thee in the furnace of affliction.

Isa 48:11 For mine own sake, even for mine own sake, will I do it: for how should my name be polluted? and I will not give my glory unto another

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out of the countries wherein ye are scattered, with a mighty hand, and with a stretched out arm, and with fury poured out.

Ezk 20:35 And I will bring you into the wilderness of the people, and there will I plead with you face to face.

Ezk 20:36 Like as I pleaded with your fathers in the wilderness of the land of Egypt, so will I plead with you, saith the Lord GOD.

Ezk 20:37 And I will cause you to pass under the rod, and I will bring you into the bond of the covenant:

Ezk 20:38 And I will purge out from among you the rebels, and them that transgress against me: I will bring them forth out of the country where they sojourn, and they shall not enter into the land of Israel: and ye shall know that I am the LORD.

Mat 10:22 And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved

Let's us count how many times as Christians we have sinned....but we have a forgiving God do we not? It's the same God is it not?

The bond of the covenant is the first covenant.How does this scripture support the state of Israel if there's rebels living in it?
 
It's so ironic that some Christians will pray for the lost, the sick, even the defiled, pagans, heathens, ect.
Yet when it comes to Israel let's dig up there past, let's judge there poor choices, let's stand by there enemy.
Forgetting how much Jewish blood was shed to keep the word of God preserved.
Has it ever occurred to anyone that God picked this people in fact created Israel for this very purpose.
So did God make a mistake? I assume everyone here has the old testament attached to the new.
We would have no idea who Jesus was if the old testament was destroyed. No prophetic proof. Really hard to put in words how profound this is.
I pray and according to the scriptures they will come to know there messiah. In fact when did Jesus say its OK to curse anyone.
Did he not say it is equal to murder? To wish someone harm? To hate and discredit them?
He who has a ear let them hear what the spirit says.
I only see one Israel on the map....seems to me with all what's going on now....things have not changed much for them.
Why does Satan hate them so much. Because they brought forth that man child who is the savior of the world.
 
The bond of the covenant is the first covenant.How does this scripture support the state of Israel if there's rebels living in it?

Because God made an unconditional, everlasting covenant with them. And they will return to Him.

22 Consider therefore the kindness and sternness of God: sternness to those who fell, but kindness to you, provided that you continue in his kindness. Otherwise, you also will be cut off. 23 And if they do not persist in unbelief, they will be grafted in, for God is able to graft them in again. 24 After all, if you were cut out of an olive tree that is wild by nature, and contrary to nature were grafted into a cultivated olive tree, how much more readily will these, the natural branches, be grafted into their own olive tree!

Israel has experienced a hardening in part until the full number of the Gentiles has come in, 26 and in this way[e] all Israel will be saved. As it is written:

“The deliverer will come from Zion;
he will turn godlessness away from Jacob.
27 And this is[f] my covenant with them
when I take away their sins.”
 
Who has preserved the revealed word of God for the past 2000 years?


25 I do not want you to be ignorant of this mystery, brothers and sisters, so that you may not be conceited: Israel has experienced a hardening in part until the full number of the Gentiles has come in, 26 and in this way[e] all Israel will be saved. As it is written:

“The deliverer will come from Zion;
he will turn godlessness away from Jacob.
27 And this is[f] my covenant with them
when I take away their sins.”[g]
28 As far as the gospel is concerned, they are enemies for your sake; but as far as election is concerned, they are loved on account of the patriarchs, 29 for God’s gifts and his call are irrevocable.
 
Imagine having absolutely nothing to do with the crimes committed against them, and yet you are propagandized into the enemies to destroy; made to pay with your lives.

The facts are tragically indisputable. Only the blind refuse to see. My great hope is that a record is being kept in heaven and that the Almighty is true to His Word. He will wash away every tear, families will be reunited, truth will flourish, and evil people will be wiped from this world like excrement. And on that great day, I will shout "Hallelu YAH!"

In the meantime, my heart aches.
No doubt a record is being kept, of those against His will and those for it. Many documented videos of God's protection and defense of Israel with outright modern day miracles, only those in darkness can't see or believe them. If it wasn't for Almighty Abba watching over Israel, the haters would have erased God's designated nation and people long ago. To God be all the glory for His glorious magnificent ways and plans✝✡🙌
 
I here you. :(

I am sure He will, of this I have no doubt.

Yet the suffering in real time is inexcusable for what reason to build resorts.
And know with all the Epstein stuff coming out we learn how Clinton was blackmailed into not accepting the two state solution, imagine all the suffering that could have been avoided.

Absolutely disgusting!!

The propaganda machine is unparalleled, going back Theodore Herzl, Darby, Scofield, the Rothschild family, and down the line to people like John Hagee!
You really won't accept truth, will you? The Arabs refused to accept every offer of a two state solution. It has nothing to do with anyone. There is no two state solution and there never has been. You should brush up on history.

This has nothing to do with the Bible. It is simply historical fact. Every attempt by anyone to resolve the issue has been sabotaged by the Arabs.

John Hagee? You forgot a vast number of preachers and teachers who accept what the Bible says, rather than interpret it according to their own logic and reason.

Avoid suffering? Israel would cease to exist under your plan. 8 million people. You should also know that Islam is coming for you. "First the Saturday people, then the Sunday people". Muslims are successfully white-anting the Western world and using the false narrative of Israeli oppression to do it. The difference between you and me is that I know what is going on. You live in some kind of bubble of ignorance that suits radical Islam just fine.
 
Through murder, lies, and deception? Not The Almighty's m.o. But if I were completely wrong, then there's no hope for any of us because it would mean The Almighty doesn't stick to His word. So these "miracles" are from the enemy or, at best, manufactured by men.

Consider this:

David was said to be a man after God's own heart. We know that he had the absolute right to claim the crown from the corrupt king Saul, but he refused to kill Saul even though he had multiple chances. Again, it was his by promise of God...but he would not take action until it was given to him. The true Israelites have God's heart and spirit. They wouldn't claim anything by force until the Messiah returns to give it to them.

There is no true or false Israel. Whole Israel is blind for the Messiah till he comes for to rescue them as the bible tells us so.
Till then Isarel is in a way under the protection of the Lord. We know the world/nations will finaly march against Israel. Maby we/Israel expierience present the beginning of this. What ever the reason is. Gaza or anything else.
 
While anyone from any background can and has turned to Christ (praise God), the secular nation state in question will never do so. It will be absolutely destroyed by the Almighty in time.




The god of this world is indeed protecting his chosen kingdom as best as he can, but truth is prevailing and people's eyes are opening.
1. In time the remnant will be rescued from the Lord and turn to Him.
2. The God of this world, if you use this Phrase, is the satan. You mean him?
 
Because God made an unconditional, everlasting covenant with them. And they will return to Him.

22 Consider therefore the kindness and sternness of God: sternness to those who fell, but kindness to you, provided that you continue in his kindness. Otherwise, you also will be cut off. 23 And if they do not persist in unbelief, they will be grafted in, for God is able to graft them in again. 24 After all, if you were cut out of an olive tree that is wild by nature, and contrary to nature were grafted into a cultivated olive tree, how much more readily will these, the natural branches, be grafted into their own olive tree!

Israel has experienced a hardening in part until the full number of the Gentiles has come in, 26 and in this way[e] all Israel will be saved. As it is written:

“The deliverer will come from Zion;
he will turn godlessness away from Jacob.
27 And this is[f] my covenant with them
when I take away their sins.”

The Isaiah verses quoted by God-fearing is a prophecy that is fulfilled by spiritual Israel not the state of Israel.The land given to the Israelites in the OT was conditional and was unfulfilled by the people not holding unto their end of the covenant.
The state of Israel didn't fulfil that prophecy since they're unrepented.
 
There is no true or false Israel. Whole Israel is blind for the Messiah till he comes for to rescue them as the bible tells us so.
Till then Isarel is in a way under the protection of the Lord. We know the world/nations will finaly march against Israel. Maby we/Israel expierience present the beginning of this. What ever the reason is. Gaza or anything else.
You need to get up to date. The nations already marched against Israel. God protected Israel and ensured that she survives and thrives to this day. The nations are again attacking Israel. Nothing new here, it's been on and off for nearly 80 years.

20 years ago, there were very few Christians in Israel and little interest. That has changed dramatically. Israelis are turning to Jesus. I've seen figures of 25,000 Jewish believers in Israel now. Note that there are virtually no Christians or Jews in the Middle East.
 
You really won't accept truth, will you? The Arabs refused to accept every offer of a two state solution. It has nothing to do with anyone. There is no two state solution and there never has been. You should brush up on history.

This has nothing to do with the Bible. It is simply historical fact. Every attempt by anyone to resolve the issue has been sabotaged by the Arabs.

John Hagee? You forgot a vast number of preachers and teachers who accept what the Bible says, rather than interpret it according to their own logic and reason.

Avoid suffering? Israel would cease to exist under your plan. 8 million people. You should also know that Islam is coming for you. "First the Saturday people, then the Sunday people". Muslims are successfully white-anting the Western world and using the false narrative of Israeli oppression to do it. The difference between you and me is that I know what is going on. You live in some kind of bubble of ignorance that suits radical Islam just fine.


This has nothing to do with the Bible.

Hmm, are we ditching dispensationalism, making some progress ... Awesome!!

The Arabs refused to accept every offer of a two state solution.

Beyond simplistic, I do not even have the words to respond to how utterly simple a statement this is.

On related issue do some real research on AIPAC.

To start in the middle of the story, is to present a half truth, and that is unjust.
 
John Hagee? You forgot a vast number of preachers and teachers who accept what the Bible says, rather than interpret it according to their own logic and reason.

That vast number are graduates of schools like the Dallas Seminary, which was started by Scoffield's mentor, Lewis Sperry Chafer. So they're just repeating what they've erroneously been taught.
 
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