Israel Declares War

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Moses_Young said:
Those who call themselves Jews are unrepentant - they have not turned to Christ. Therefore, the curses God promised for disobedience, rather than the blessings He promised for obedience, apply.
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But not to the Abrahamic Covenant. That's the Replacement Theology talking, the church gets all the blessings the Jews get all the curses.
 
HeIsHere said:
I do believe God has fulfilled all His promises regarding the land, but a very good point He does not need our help to keep His word,

neither does He use very evil rich men with the power to create nations with a stroke of pen, having first sent young men to their

deaths by the hundreds of thousands.
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Maps, facts, prove you wrong. They have never fully possessed the all the land.
 
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HeIsHere said:
Also the Jewish remnant became Christians at the siege of Jerusalem in the first century.

Jesus ended the sacrifice, they denied the Messiah, from then on everything changed.


“O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets and stonest them that are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not!
Matthew 23:37
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Romans 11 Is talking about the Jewish people, not the church. "Even so then at this present time also there is a remnant according to the election of grace."
 
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HeIsHere said:
First hand account,

I am Israeli and my family came to Israel in the 1940s from East Europe Romania before the official creation of the state of Israel as an official country. My grandfather was Hagana soldier that participated in the raids, expulsion and exile of Palestinians in the land between 1947-1948. He stole furniture from homes, expensive prized possessions and pushed the Palestinians from a village called Huj into the Gaza strip.

Before he passed away he told me the story of what led to the war of 1948 and how they attacked with pure impunity while British soldiers watched. He mentioned a story about catching Palestinians of the village sneaking out at night to tend to their lands and fruit and shooting indiscriminately to scare them off into Gaza. He said he's never had a good night sleep in all his years after that and lived with a shame inside him until his death.

At the time the soldiers were emboldened to do whatever they wanted as long as the villages were wiped cleaned. He said he remembers how easy it was to demolish the homes there because they were made of dirt and fell like sand castles.
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We are so blessed to have a Savior in Jesus Christ, that when we confess, forsake, and ask for forgiveness with sincerity and remorse flowing within us, we are made clean again. I hope the grandfather utilized the atonement of Jesus Christ and received peace while he was alive. I can say I would never do that, but I am in no less need of a Savior than he was.

What isn't often talked about is how Britain straight up lied to the Palestinians, that if they helped fight against the Ottoman empire, they would be given a state. Instead, many of them lost their homes years later. No good deed goes unpunished.
 
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ThereRoseaLamb said:
Maps, facts, prove you wrong. They have never fully possessed the all the land.
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Yes.

Ultimately this is the biggest dilemma with the Amils. I'll use that term broadly although I recognize there are many shades of Amils.

THE JEWS ARE THERE!!!! That should have forever squashed the Amil position in 1948.
That FACT alone should remove any doubt about the veracity and specificity of God saying He would RE gather them in that Land a SECOND time.

So people either accept they were mistaken in their interpretation of Scripture, or they build a deep, and increasing animosity against the Jews, and Israel.

And it doesn't matter what, or who is partly or mostly responsible for them being there. I am in total agreement that the Rothchilds are evil to their core. Totally irrelevant to God's plan. He can use anything or anyone to accomplish it.
 
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ThereRoseaLamb said:
Maps, facts, prove you wrong. They have never fully possessed the all the land.
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Does Israel have to possess all the land for God to have fulfilled His promise? I ask because both seem to be true...God says He fulfilled the promise in Joshua, but even at that time, Israel didn't do all that it should have done to possess all the land.
 
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PennEd said:
Yes.

Ultimately this is the biggest dilemma with the Amils. I'll use that term broadly although I recognize there are many shades of Amils.

THE JEWS ARE THERE!!!! That shouldr have forever squashed the Amil position in 1948.
That FACT alone should remove any doubt about the veracity and specificity of God saying He would RE gather them in that Land a SECOND time.

So people either accept they were mistaken in their interpretation of Scripture, or they build a deep, and increasing animosity against the Jews, and Israel.

And it doesn't matter what, or who is partly or mostly responsible for them being there. I am in total agreement that the Rothchilds are evil to their core. Totally irrelevant to God's plan. He can use anything or anyone to accomplish it.
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Agreed, even to the point of changing facts of history. God said He would place them in the land never to be uprooted again. Boy some of these false doctrines die hard. Every few years replacement theology by another name comes round again with the same lies. The land belongs to the Jews. Period, end of story.
 
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PennEd said:
I am in total agreement that the Rothchilds are evil to their core. Totally
irrelevant to God's plan. He can use anything or anyone to accomplish it.
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Romans 8:28
 
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Cameron143 said:
Does Israel have to possess all the land for God to have fulfilled His promise?
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Yes, I believe so. We use to sing hymns that backed up these foundational doctrines. But since the church has moved to repetitive worship music, much of these truths have been lost.

Cameron143 said:
I ask because both seem to be true...God says He fulfilled the promise in Joshua, but even at that time, Israel didn't do all that it should have done to possess all the land.
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Yes, true on both counts, but God said He would put them in the land never to be uprooted again. That hasn't happened yet. Therefore the promise has not yet been fulfilled.
 
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Smoke said:
I think he was quoting me when I had a Joe Biden moment and said the opposite of what I wanted to (I meant to say I was pro-life). :oops:
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Meh, we all do stuff like that. Misspellings miswording get ahead of ourselves. All good in the hood.
 
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