Israel Declares War
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A puppet government? And it is kinda controlled by Israel, whether officially or not. Israel tells Palestinians to leave their homes, and then bombs them into oblivion if they don't? I think that shows Israel is effectively ruling, whether it is recognised as such or not.
Democracy as a duel branch government has always failed. Once each party realises it can take bribes and collect large amounts of money. it will become corrupt. Both sides will become so divided it can not agree to much of anything. and what will happen is thje divide will be to great to overcome without one side taking power by force. or the people rebelling and having a revolution.
If nothing else we should learn by the fall of rome, that is one thing we should learn.. united we stand, divided we fall.
If nothing else we should learn by the fall of rome, that is one thing we should learn.. united we stand, divided we fall.
You gave Gaddafi. He was so well liked he was bludgeoned in the street.
No. it was not a puppet governmant, do you think HAMAS did anything to support israel or that Israel did?
As for what is happening today.
Israel is responding to an attack on its people and its country. It has every right to make sure that the people who attacked he does not have the capability to do it again.
If Hamas did not do what it did. they would be in peace today (well except Israel who continuously had to watch rockets fired at here and did nothing about it)
Yeah, after the US bombed all his supporters. Imagine Russia nuked most of patriotic America, and there were only a handful of Communist democrats left. The result would be the same with Trump. Doesn't mean he wasn't well-liked or a bad leader - just someone greatly increased the odds in the favour of his enemies.
I believe as should every Christian every human life has inalienable God given rights ... do you?
I unlike others are not given over to the relentless propaganda machine heard on the nightly news from the left and right.
You make these assertions Islam wants to take over the world, huge broad sweeping statement with no evidence to support it.
What exactly does that even mean do you know or are you just reiterating the latest talking point?
It's corruption, not the tenets of democracy, that lead to its failure. It is incumbent on free people to maintain their freedom.
Ben Franklin...it's a democratic republic, if you can keep it.
Well, not much point continuing this conversation, as our worldviews are too greatly opposed. I believe elements of the Israeli government installed Hamas. But whether or not they did, doesn't give anyone the right to commit war crimes. Giving a green light to warcrimes is exactly the same as saying terrorism is a legitimate act of war.
If Hamas did not do what it did. they would be in peace today (well except Israel who continuously had to watch rockets fired at here and did nothing about it)[/QUOTE]
Wow, peace are you kidding me, the Palestinians (both CHRISTIAN and Jews) have never had peace, they were murdered and driven from their homes in 1948 and there has been no peace since then.
Wow, peace are you kidding me, the Palestinians (both CHRISTIAN and Jews) have never had peace, they were murdered and driven from their homes in 1948 and there has been no peace since then.
Agree, most others on this thread aside from the OP, were at least willing to acknowledge that Israel has done its share of atrocities and often not in self- defense and that there are other forces at play.
I think (from what I've seen) it usually becomes Communism first. Hence my comment about the benevolent dictators. A wise dictator, king, or president who knows his stuff and loves his people, is better than a bunch of democratic, Communist politicians selling out their country as their snouts snuffle up their fill from the public trough.
I agree with this. But finding wise and loving seems to allude us in present day governance.
The problem is they tend to get assassinated by Communists who want to more easily seize power. But history has plenty of them. If you ignore what the haters say - afterall, nobody except God is perfect.
sure I do
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Continue to be unlearned.. I would suggest you study islam. and look at the world and what they are doing to the world.. try reading the charter of Hamas and what it says
here let me help you. A few articles from the official charter of Hamas
Article Thirteen:
Initiatives, and so-called peaceful solutions and international conferences, are in contradiction to the principles of the Islamic Resistance Movement. Abusing any part of Palestine is abuse directed against part of religion. Nationalism of the Islamic Resistance Movement is part of its religion. Its members have been fed on that. For the sake of hoisting the banner of Allah over their homeland they fight. "Allah will be prominent, but most people do not know."
Now and then the call goes out for the convening of an international conference to look for ways of solving the (Palestinian) question. Some accept, others reject the idea, for this or other reason, with one stipulation or more for consent to convening the conference and participating in it. Knowing the parties constituting the conference, their past and present attitudes towards Moslem problems, the Islamic Resistance Movement does not consider these conferences capable of realising the demands, restoring the rights or doing justice to the oppressed. These conferences are only ways of setting the infidels in the land of the Moslems as arbitraters. When did the infidels do justice to the believers?
"But the Jews will not be pleased with thee, neither the Christians, until thou follow their religion; say, The direction of Allah is the true direction. And verily if thou follow their desires, after the knowledge which hath been given thee, thou shalt find no patron or protector against Allah." (The Cow - verse 120).
There is no solution for the Palestinian question except through Jihad. Initiatives, proposals and international conferences are all a waste of time and vain endeavors. The Palestinian people know better than to consent to having their future, rights and fate toyed with. As in said in the honourable Hadith:
Article Fifteen:
The day that enemies usurp part of Moslem land, Jihad becomes the individual duty of every Moslem. In face of the Jews' usurpation of Palestine, it is compulsory that the banner of Jihad be raised. To do this requires the diffusion of Islamic consciousness among the masses, both on the regional, Arab and Islamic levels. It is necessary to instill the spirit of Jihad in the heart of the nation so that they would confront the enemies and join the ranks of the fighters.
It is necessary that scientists, educators and teachers, information and media people, as well as the educated masses, especially the youth and sheikhs of the Islamic movements, should take part in the operation of awakening (the masses). It is important that basic changes be made in the school curriculum, to cleanse it of the traces of ideological invasion that affected it as a result of the orientalists and missionaries who infiltrated the region following the defeat of the Crusaders at the hands of Salah el-Din (Saladin). The Crusaders realised that it was impossible to defeat the Moslems without first having ideological invasion pave the way by upsetting their thoughts, disfiguring their heritage and violating their ideals. Only then could they invade with soldiers. This, in its turn, paved the way for the imperialistic invasion that made Allenby declare on entering Jerusalem: "Only now have the Crusades ended." General Guru stood at Salah el-Din's grave and said: "We have returned, O Salah el-Din." Imperialism has helped towards the strengthening of ideological invasion, deepening, and still does, its roots. All this has paved the way towards the loss of Palestine.
It is necessary to instill in the minds of the Moslem generations that the Palestinian problem is a religious problem, and should be dealt with on this basis. Palestine contains Islamic holy sites. In it there is al- Aqsa Mosque which is bound to the great Mosque in Mecca in an inseparable bond as long as heaven and earth speak of Isra` (Mohammed's midnight journey to the seven heavens) and Mi'raj (Mohammed's ascension to the seven heavens from Jerusalem).
"The bond of one day for the sake of Allah is better than the world and whatever there is on it. The place of one's whip in Paradise is far better than the world and whatever there is on it. A worshipper's going and coming in the service of Allah is better than the world and whatever there is on it." (As related by al-Bukhari, Moslem, al-Tarmdhi and Ibn Maja).
"I swear by the holder of Mohammed's soul that I would like to invade and be killed for the sake of Allah, then invade and be killed, and then invade again and be killed." (As related by al-Bukhari and Moslem).
this is just a snapshot.. there is far more
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