Israel exists because the Rothschild made it so.
Examine the public record.
When you come to terms with this futurism falls on its face.
Israel Declares War
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Israel exists because the Rothschild made it so.
Examine the public record.
When you come to terms with this futurism falls on its face.
L
Locoponydirtman
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History matters to carnal people, when the mind is renewed as required we see through the lens of the Father as He continues to redeem His creation.
Everything is now and going forward with the Savior.
Nothing happens in the past.
It's all in the Bible, you may not find it in "religion", or leaning on one's own understanding.
blessings
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Locoponydirtman
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Locoponydirtman
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Which the jacobites and ishmealite are. So you can see the the pattern
History matters to carnal people, when the mind is renewed as required we see through the lens of the Father as He continues to redeem His creation.
Everything is now and going forward with the Savior.
Nothing happens in the past.
It's all in the Bible, you may not find it in "religion", or leaning on one's own understanding.
blessings
how about the people who simplistically label others and groups?
Our Creator knows each of us very individually and personally, as we continue being conformed to the Image of the Son, how can we do otherwise and not be in error?
Our Creator knows each of us very individually and personally, as we continue being conformed to the Image of the Son, how can we do otherwise and not be in error?
There is no quick fix here. And Trump proved that we can still wield a big stick. Where is ISIS?
I agree another proxy group will come. That's why occupation will be necessary for some time.
"Perish the Christians, perish the Jews, let there be no religion in Arabia but islame".
Were moe's last words, twisted by the satan worshipers to encourage world wide jihad, emigrate, populate, overtake has been a method they have used for years and we are seeing in the U.S. as we receive the recompense of our failure to maintain the nation we were given.
best wishes
It can be occupied by the UN Peace Keepers a neutral party or some other group.
South Africa was a mess too, returning self-determination to the people brought some measure of stability.
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Locoponydirtman
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Right Jesus was actually talking to his disciples directly, not some generation 1000s of years later. That would be very deceptive of Jesus. But Jesus isnt deceptive.
"Perish the Christians, perish the Jews, let there be no religion in Arabia but islame".
Were moe's last words, twisted by the satan worshipers to encourage world wide jihad, emigrate, populate, overtake has been a method they have used for years and we are seeing in the U.S. as we receive the recompense of our failure to maintain the nation we were given.
best wishes
You mean the nation you conquered.
Israel and the Apostate church
There is a reason why children of God and His chosen people would be left behind during the tribulation.
Isaiah 59:1 Behold, the Lord's hand is not shortened, that it cannot save; neither his ear heavy, that it cannot hear: 2 But your iniquities have separated between you and your God, and your sins have hid his face from you, that he will not hear.
On the one hand the best thing possible for a believer is to be one that God hears when you pray and responds. The worst thing is that God hides His face from you and will not hear. I believe this is what is happening right now to Israel and what is happening to the apostate church in the US.
3 For your hands are defiled with blood, and your fingers with iniquity; your lips have spoken lies, your tongue hath muttered perverseness.
It is one thing to "pray for the peace of Israel" that is fine, it does not mean that they are sinless, or forgiven or justified. The only way Israel will find peace is if they find Jesus.
4 None calleth for justice, nor any pleadeth for truth: they trust in vanity, and speak lies; they conceive mischief, and bring forth iniquity.
I am not supporting terrorists, I don't support Hamas or Hezbollah. However, you reap what you sow. Over the last 75 years the nation of Israel has sown many seeds that will reap terrorism.
5 They hatch cockatrice' eggs, and weave the spider's web: he that eateth of their eggs dieth, and that which is crushed breaketh out into a viper.
Are the Jews God's chosen people? Do they have the Abrahamic covenant? What did Jesus say? John 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
Obviously there are those who are born of the Spirit, but let us not deny that many of them are born of the flesh and their father is the devil.
6 Their webs shall not become garments, neither shall they cover themselves with their works: their works are works of iniquity, and the act of violence is in their hands.
Israel as a nation has gone all in on works of iniquity and acts of violence. You don't have a world renowned intelligence agency and a world renowned military without doing that. It sounds good to be 'world renowned' but the entire world lies in the evil one.
7 Their feet run to evil, and they make haste to shed innocent blood: their thoughts are thoughts of iniquity; wasting and destruction are in their paths.
No reasonable and unbiased observer could come to any other conclusion.
8 The way of peace they know not; and there is no judgment in their goings: they have made them crooked paths: whosoever goeth therein shall not know peace.
Who can deny this? Not one of them is claiming to know the way of peace, the only plan they have is to "wipe out Hamas". This is the way of death, not peace.
9 Therefore is judgment far from us, neither doth justice overtake us: we wait for light, but behold obscurity; for brightness, but we walk in darkness.
Israel has taken a path, an intentional path since David Ben Gurion, to wall up the Palestinians and crush them. That is not justice.
10 We grope for the wall like the blind, and we grope as if we had no eyes: we stumble at noon day as in the night; we are in desolate places as dead men.
Listen to the people trying to come up for a way to peace, they are like blind men groping in the dark.
11 We roar all like bears, and mourn sore like doves: we look for judgment, but there is none; for salvation, but it is far off from us.
Completely foolish, you have to pay the price if you want peace and in the end the price will be pennies on the dollar compared to what war will cost. This war will lead to Ezekiel 38 war and that will lead to Armageddon.
12 For our transgressions are multiplied before thee, and our sins testify against us: for our transgressions are with us; and as for our iniquities, we know them; 13 In transgressing and lying against the Lord, and departing away from our God, speaking oppression and revolt, conceiving and uttering from the heart words of falsehood.
You can't live in Israel apart from God, and God is not going to grant you peace until you receive that Jesus is the Messiah and you say "blessed is he that comes in the name of the Lord".
14 And judgment is turned away backward, and justice standeth afar off: for truth is fallen in the street, and equity cannot enter.
This started when you denied Jesus. Israel was punished, sent to the four winds. Yes, they have been brought back, their "time out" is over. But you still need to repent and come to Jesus.
15 Yea, truth faileth; and he that departeth from evil maketh himself a prey: and the Lord saw it, and it displeased him that there was no judgment.
Look at what happens to the Palestinians if they try to depart from the war zone, they make themselves a prey to Hamas. There are powerful forces on both sides that want war, if you stand against that and try to depart you are made a prey. You cannot reason your way out of this coming judgment, the line is drawn in the sand, choose Jesus or face God's wrath.
16 And he saw that there was no man, and wondered that there was no intercessor: therefore his arm brought salvation unto him; and his righteousness, it sustained him. 17 For he put on righteousness as a breastplate, and an helmet of salvation upon his head; and he put on the garments of vengeance for clothing, and was clad with zeal as a cloak. 18 According to their deeds, accordingly he will repay, fury to his adversaries, recompence to his enemies; to the islands he will repay recompence.
Anyone who is proposing solutions without seeing that God is at the very center of what is going on is hopelessly blind.
19 So shall they fear the name of the Lord from the west, and his glory from the rising of the sun. When the enemy shall come in like a flood, the Spirit of the Lord shall lift up a standard against him.
If Israel wins against Gaza they will have to reduce Damascus to rubble, if they do that it will galvanize the muslims against them, and it will bring the Ezekiel 38 war and when they win that it will bring Armageddon as a flood.
20 And the Redeemer shall come to Zion, and unto them that turn from transgression in Jacob, saith the Lord.
This is the plan, put Israel into a corner until there is no hope of salvation other than Jesus.
21 As for me, this is my covenant with them, saith the Lord; My spirit that is upon thee, and my words which I have put in thy mouth, shall not depart out of thy mouth, nor out of the mouth of thy seed, nor out of the mouth of thy seed's seed, saith the Lord, from henceforth and for ever.
There is a reason why children of God and His chosen people would be left behind during the tribulation.
Isaiah 59:1 Behold, the Lord's hand is not shortened, that it cannot save; neither his ear heavy, that it cannot hear: 2 But your iniquities have separated between you and your God, and your sins have hid his face from you, that he will not hear.
On the one hand the best thing possible for a believer is to be one that God hears when you pray and responds. The worst thing is that God hides His face from you and will not hear. I believe this is what is happening right now to Israel and what is happening to the apostate church in the US.
3 For your hands are defiled with blood, and your fingers with iniquity; your lips have spoken lies, your tongue hath muttered perverseness.
It is one thing to "pray for the peace of Israel" that is fine, it does not mean that they are sinless, or forgiven or justified. The only way Israel will find peace is if they find Jesus.
4 None calleth for justice, nor any pleadeth for truth: they trust in vanity, and speak lies; they conceive mischief, and bring forth iniquity.
I am not supporting terrorists, I don't support Hamas or Hezbollah. However, you reap what you sow. Over the last 75 years the nation of Israel has sown many seeds that will reap terrorism.
5 They hatch cockatrice' eggs, and weave the spider's web: he that eateth of their eggs dieth, and that which is crushed breaketh out into a viper.
Are the Jews God's chosen people? Do they have the Abrahamic covenant? What did Jesus say? John 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
Obviously there are those who are born of the Spirit, but let us not deny that many of them are born of the flesh and their father is the devil.
6 Their webs shall not become garments, neither shall they cover themselves with their works: their works are works of iniquity, and the act of violence is in their hands.
Israel as a nation has gone all in on works of iniquity and acts of violence. You don't have a world renowned intelligence agency and a world renowned military without doing that. It sounds good to be 'world renowned' but the entire world lies in the evil one.
7 Their feet run to evil, and they make haste to shed innocent blood: their thoughts are thoughts of iniquity; wasting and destruction are in their paths.
No reasonable and unbiased observer could come to any other conclusion.
8 The way of peace they know not; and there is no judgment in their goings: they have made them crooked paths: whosoever goeth therein shall not know peace.
Who can deny this? Not one of them is claiming to know the way of peace, the only plan they have is to "wipe out Hamas". This is the way of death, not peace.
9 Therefore is judgment far from us, neither doth justice overtake us: we wait for light, but behold obscurity; for brightness, but we walk in darkness.
Israel has taken a path, an intentional path since David Ben Gurion, to wall up the Palestinians and crush them. That is not justice.
10 We grope for the wall like the blind, and we grope as if we had no eyes: we stumble at noon day as in the night; we are in desolate places as dead men.
Listen to the people trying to come up for a way to peace, they are like blind men groping in the dark.
11 We roar all like bears, and mourn sore like doves: we look for judgment, but there is none; for salvation, but it is far off from us.
Completely foolish, you have to pay the price if you want peace and in the end the price will be pennies on the dollar compared to what war will cost. This war will lead to Ezekiel 38 war and that will lead to Armageddon.
12 For our transgressions are multiplied before thee, and our sins testify against us: for our transgressions are with us; and as for our iniquities, we know them; 13 In transgressing and lying against the Lord, and departing away from our God, speaking oppression and revolt, conceiving and uttering from the heart words of falsehood.
You can't live in Israel apart from God, and God is not going to grant you peace until you receive that Jesus is the Messiah and you say "blessed is he that comes in the name of the Lord".
14 And judgment is turned away backward, and justice standeth afar off: for truth is fallen in the street, and equity cannot enter.
This started when you denied Jesus. Israel was punished, sent to the four winds. Yes, they have been brought back, their "time out" is over. But you still need to repent and come to Jesus.
15 Yea, truth faileth; and he that departeth from evil maketh himself a prey: and the Lord saw it, and it displeased him that there was no judgment.
Look at what happens to the Palestinians if they try to depart from the war zone, they make themselves a prey to Hamas. There are powerful forces on both sides that want war, if you stand against that and try to depart you are made a prey. You cannot reason your way out of this coming judgment, the line is drawn in the sand, choose Jesus or face God's wrath.
16 And he saw that there was no man, and wondered that there was no intercessor: therefore his arm brought salvation unto him; and his righteousness, it sustained him. 17 For he put on righteousness as a breastplate, and an helmet of salvation upon his head; and he put on the garments of vengeance for clothing, and was clad with zeal as a cloak. 18 According to their deeds, accordingly he will repay, fury to his adversaries, recompence to his enemies; to the islands he will repay recompence.
Anyone who is proposing solutions without seeing that God is at the very center of what is going on is hopelessly blind.
19 So shall they fear the name of the Lord from the west, and his glory from the rising of the sun. When the enemy shall come in like a flood, the Spirit of the Lord shall lift up a standard against him.
If Israel wins against Gaza they will have to reduce Damascus to rubble, if they do that it will galvanize the muslims against them, and it will bring the Ezekiel 38 war and when they win that it will bring Armageddon as a flood.
20 And the Redeemer shall come to Zion, and unto them that turn from transgression in Jacob, saith the Lord.
This is the plan, put Israel into a corner until there is no hope of salvation other than Jesus.
21 As for me, this is my covenant with them, saith the Lord; My spirit that is upon thee, and my words which I have put in thy mouth, shall not depart out of thy mouth, nor out of the mouth of thy seed, nor out of the mouth of thy seed's seed, saith the Lord, from henceforth and for ever.
It is an interpretation of scripture, I'd rather consider that then look at all the spouting of everyones opinions.
There is always wheat amongst the tares. Jesus is always the ultimate answer. Unless you are Ezekiel, preaching to bones isn't my recommendation. God has people from every nation, kindred, and tongue. There is the part of history that men record. Within that history, and often unseen by men, God is working. Ultimately, that's what is important, and what I think Christians should be ultimately looking for. But we should also look for practical solutions."Perish the Christians, perish the Jews, let there be no religion in Arabia but islame".
Were moe's last words, twisted by the satan worshipers to encourage world wide jihad, emigrate, populate, overtake has been a method they have used for years and we are seeing in the U.S. as we receive the recompense of our failure to maintain the nation we were given.
best wishes