Is this the lie that started many false teachings?
- Thread starter TMS
- Start date
-
Christian Chat is a moderated online Christian community allowing Christians around the world to fellowship with each other in real time chat via webcam, voice, and text, with the Christian Chat app. You can also start or participate in a Bible-based discussion here in the Christian Chat Forums, where members can also share with each other their own videos, pictures, or favorite Christian music.
If you are a Christian and need encouragement and fellowship, we're here for you! If you are not a Christian but interested in knowing more about Jesus our Lord, you're also welcome! Want to know what the Bible says, and how you can apply it to your life? Join us!
To make new Christian friends now around the world, click here to join Christian Chat.
How does the Bible describe it?
A. It rises from the sea (verse 1).
B. It is the composite of the four beasts in Daniel chapter 7 (verse 2).
C. The dragon gives it power and authority (verse 2).
D. It receives a deadly wound (verse 3).
E. Its deadly wound is healed (verse 3).
F. It is a strong political power (verses 3, 7).
G. It is a strong religious power (verses 3, 8).
H. It is guilty of blasphemy (verses 1, 5, 6).
I. It wars with and overcomes the saints (verse 7).
J. It rules for 42 months (verse 5).
K. It has a mysterious number—666 (verse 18).
If you can give me something that fits all of these please do.
A. It rises from the sea (verse 1).
B. It is the composite of the four beasts in Daniel chapter 7 (verse 2).
C. The dragon gives it power and authority (verse 2).
D. It receives a deadly wound (verse 3).
E. Its deadly wound is healed (verse 3).
F. It is a strong political power (verses 3, 7).
G. It is a strong religious power (verses 3, 8).
H. It is guilty of blasphemy (verses 1, 5, 6).
I. It wars with and overcomes the saints (verse 7).
J. It rules for 42 months (verse 5).
K. It has a mysterious number—666 (verse 18).
If you can give me something that fits all of these please do.
Yeah I can. It's a new beast different than any from before like it says in Daniel. It's also a new religion based upon a false god known as the antichrist.
Dan 7:7 After this I saw in the night visions, and behold a fourth beast, dreadful and terrible, and strong exceedingly; and it had great iron teeth: it devoured and brake in pieces, and stamped the residue with the feet of it: and it was diverse from all the beasts that were before it; and it had ten horns.
the Church ruled for 1260 years and forced people to believe what they taught.
When Church and state (Politics and religion), are mixed together watch and see which religious leader is leading the world. Satan doesn't care which doctrine you follow as long as it is not the truth.
I didn't say the world would become catholic. But if the papacy is the beast it will enforce a mark. What is the Catholics mark of ecclesiastical power? ??
It's been in power far longer than 1260 years. You are trying to force it into the prophecy of two witnesses. That's eisegesis.
The mark isn't Catholic at all. Pope isn't going to be the antichrist either. The antichrist will be his own god, not regarding the god of his fathers and the mark will be symbolic of his name which adds up to 666.
A. It would rise from the sea (Revelation 13:1).
The sea (or water) in prophecy refers to people or a populated area (Revelation 17:15). So the beast—antichrist—would arise amid the established nations of the then known world. The papacy arose in Western Europe, so it fits this point.
B. It would be a composite of the four beasts of Daniel chapter 7 (Revelation 13:2).
Study the comparison below to see how it all fits together:
Daniel chapter 7 Revelation chapter 13
Babylon Lion-like beast (vs. 4) "Mouth of a lion" (vs. 2)
Medo-Persia Bear-like beast (vs. 5) "Feet of a bear" (vs. 2)
Greece Leopard-like beast (vs. 6) "Like unto a leopard" (vs. 2)
Rome Ten-horned beast (vs. 7) "Having ... ten horns" (vs. 1)
The four beasts of Daniel 7 are depicted as part of Antichrist, or the beast, because the papacy incorporated pagan beliefs and practices from all four empires. She clothed them in spiritual garb and spread them to the world as Christian teachings.
The sea (or water) in prophecy refers to people or a populated area (Revelation 17:15). So the beast—antichrist—would arise amid the established nations of the then known world. The papacy arose in Western Europe, so it fits this point.
B. It would be a composite of the four beasts of Daniel chapter 7 (Revelation 13:2).
Study the comparison below to see how it all fits together:
Daniel chapter 7 Revelation chapter 13
Babylon Lion-like beast (vs. 4) "Mouth of a lion" (vs. 2)
Medo-Persia Bear-like beast (vs. 5) "Feet of a bear" (vs. 2)
Greece Leopard-like beast (vs. 6) "Like unto a leopard" (vs. 2)
Rome Ten-horned beast (vs. 7) "Having ... ten horns" (vs. 1)
The four beasts of Daniel 7 are depicted as part of Antichrist, or the beast, because the papacy incorporated pagan beliefs and practices from all four empires. She clothed them in spiritual garb and spread them to the world as Christian teachings.
Yeah which means any place. Nothing tied to the RCC at all.
lol, still no link to RCC. Obviously not regarding the god of his fathers means a pope as antichrist can't work because the pope would be teaching worship of the god as his fathers also taught. The antichrist will be teaching to worship a new god, himself.
Many do.
The one we are looking for will claim to be god, not show respect for the god of his fathers which means he will be preaching a different god than his ancestors did and he will perform miracles.
That proves it cannot be a Jew preaching the god of his fathers, or a Pope preaching the god of his fathers etc etc but you have made up your mind, well you aren't considering all the things said about that person.