Is this fish good?

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I have seen some more arguments about women teaching recently. Should all women teach, No! Should all men teach, No! Yet God had to use a donkey once to get a stubborn person to hear Him! Then what is the deciding factor? How can you know?

Something to ponder!

Sometimes we forget our brothers the “apostles”. They were just men, subjects to the same sins, temptations and failures. As anyone!

When I wrote women should be able to teach, if they are truly saved and born again in the Spirit! Haven’t they been given the same Holy Spirit, then judge not the messengers. Judge the message against the word of God. Which you should study and know. Least you be deceived by women, or man! My Lord Jesus said, who are my mothers and brothers? Here are my mother and my brothers! 50For whoever does the will of my Father in heaven is my brother and sister and mother.” Note: I see he talked about mother and brother, who is the third he added? Sister? Why?

So what is the measurement he has given in this saying? That though he has a physical mother, and brothers. They are of no more importance than these, his disciples! Including women, his sister! So who are the disciples? Those who do the will of God! What was Jesus instruction to them as he left the earth? Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,20 and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with youalways, to the very end of the age.” Anywhere in here did he say don’t save women? Don’t preach to children? Anyone excluded here? Any nation? Tribe or tongue? Now looking back with 20/20, was Jesus saying only preach to the Jew? Now during that time, only the Jews were being preached to and being converted. Why? That would soon to change too, again why? Seek and find!

I Remember they quoted Paul’s writings mainly as part of the argument against women teaching. Remember, I said they can make mistakes too? Remember how Paul went after Peter? For what? How? Now what did Christ say to do when your brother sins against you? Embarrass them in front of everyone? Or talk to them alone first? If they don’t listen, then take two or three witnesses in private. Then those witnesses should also be in agreement right? If they still don’t listen take it before the church. Hmm he seemed to skip a few steps. Now how do you think Peter handled it? Did he let his pride, which he got smacked down for before, well up and strike out quoting the master? Or, just maybe, he took him to the side and spoke with him after.. one day, we will know for sure ;-). Yet no one seems to point that out.

Paul’s closest argument about women not teaching I would say isn’t keeping silent in church. That is because out of respect they should resolve things in private since women were put under “subject” according to the scripture. Now there are arguments about translations and deep dives. Which there should be when seeking the truth however, not only did he say they should be subject, but also because of women they tempted Adam and caused the fall of man. Women teaches man, man follows the devil.

Yes spiritually and physically Eve lead to the downfall of man! This is true! Yet brothers and sisters it is also true, that though destruction and downfall came upon man a woman. So too did the spiritual and rebirth of man and the light of salvation also come through women. Does this negate the word? Or his teachings? No, but It depends on the meat. Is one wise enough to tell what meat is good and what is spoiled! How? Are we not all subject to error?

Do you not know you are born again through Christ? If then you are born again by water and Spirit through Christ and he calls God Father and instructs you to do so also when you are born again. Then who is your mother?

This should be a tip you off about something I asked you guys a while back. If you care, something about Jacob and Esau.

Was there deception between a mother, father and brothers? Or a foreshadow being cast? I was going to explain this but am now moved not to. Though I have shared this with a few. For if you feed a man a fish, he will just come to you to be fed. Just like a pet. Just like most are comfortable doing, as are some just as comfortable “feeding”. But how old is the fish, from where was it caught? There are plenty of bad water and fish. Spoiling the meat!

If you teach a man, or woman how and where to fish instead! Then, well, then you can help them help themselves, their families and others and feed the world! Through the one who makes the fish and fills the waters.

So think about this brothers and sisters, would you rather eat fish given to you, not knowing from whence it came or what water? Or would you rather catch the fish and know from where it has come and what water it is in?

To love all and give mercy with humility showing acceptance of a lost sheep is much different than giving acceptance affirming one’s sin as acceptable to God! Much like Cain and Able, one was acceptable before God, one was not!

Love all, serve all, a brother in Christ

This is the way!
 
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If we are all one in Christ and the former worldly divisions that had separated us are now gone, male,female,Greek, Samaratin, Jew, Gentile, and all that, then how can we say being a woman means you can't teach God's word?
 
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18And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth. 19Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: 20Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.
Matthew 28

15And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.
Mark 16

There are a lot of commands for men women and children to teach and preach the gospel.
I attended an independent Baptist Church that had women, men, couples going out into the world to proclaim the gospel every week. Some children even led others to Christ.

Let's get back to doing that!
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Anyone who has the Holy Spirit indwelled in them is A rightful MINISTER Ready and able to Preah God's Spiritual Message ---better than any Worldly Ordained Ministers who have not the Holy Spirit in them trying to preach God's Spiritual message which they can't do ---their Spiritual understanding is veiled --They preach to suit their own agenda not God's ----
 
I notice the word 'person' isn't in the biblical text as much as it should.
I believe we should check how 'person' should have been used in the English translation of the Bible instead of 'man'.
 
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I notice the word 'person' isn't in the biblical text as much as it should.
I believe we should check how 'person' should have been used in the English translation of the Bible instead of 'man'.


The KJV translators did an outstanding job on translating. My liberal HS English teacher didn't even like the gender neutral fake bible her feminist women's (or men or any of 100 genders you identify with), group insisted on using. Only females were invited though. Sounds sexist to me.
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1Co 11:3 But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.

Gal 3:28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.

1Co 14:34 Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law.
1Co 14:35 And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.

1Ti 2:11 Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection.
1Ti 2:12 But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.

1Co 14:26 How is it then, brethren? when ye come together, every one of you hath a psalm, hath a doctrine, hath a tongue, hath a revelation, hath an interpretation. Let all things be done unto edifying.

A man and a woman are equal in the Lord.

A woman can teach for all saints are commanded to spread the Gospel and truth to all people.

But when the congregation comes together to hear the word of God and worship Him it should be a man that takes the lead according to the authority structure of God.

Which the women have to keep silent when the man is speaking for he has the floor and she cannot usurp authority over him at that time.

When the man is finished speaking he can turn it over to the congregation to increase edification which would be both men and women for they are equal in the Lord.

It would be like working for a company and the person says no talking and hold your questions until he is done speaking.

We know a woman can speak in Church for she can converse with the other saints, sing praises to God, give testimonies.

But when the preacher is speaking he has the floor and the authority and if a woman speaks she is interrupting him but she cannot usurp authority over him because the man is speaking who is leading the congregation.

Especially if the Spirit directs the service and is leading the man.

A woman cannot interrupt but neither can a man.
 
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Yes, all women should teach........

Titus 2: 2 But speak thou the things which become sound doctrine: 2 That the aged men be sober, grave, temperate, sound in faith, in charity, in patience. 3 The aged women likewise, that they be in behaviour as becometh holiness, not false accusers, not given to much wine, teachers of good things; 4 That they may teach the young women to be sober, to love their husbands, to love their children, 5 To be discreet, chaste, keepers at home, good, obedient to their own husbands, that the word of God be not blasphemed.

1 Timothy 2: 8 I will therefore that men pray every where, lifting up holy hands, without wrath and doubting. 9 In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array; 10 But (which becometh women professing godliness) with good works. 11 Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection. 12 But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.

Keeping in mind what I have highlighted here in bold, while not ignoring the rest; Instead of facilitating the striving for authority, if we just fostered more godly, experienced, wise, "aged women" to "teach the young women", it would be a very powerful thing.
 
Women teaching is very important in local churches.
They are much better at teaching other women and children that most men are.
 
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Women teaching is very important in local churches.
They are much better at teaching other women and children that most men are.

Godly older women are the most qualified to teach "younger women". At least that's what the Bible indicates.
 
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When the Holy Spirit wrote through paul that woman arent allowed to teach, I believe deeply he was speaking about The order of Christ's Church when we come to meet together. Now the teacher of all of us is our Lord Jesus Christ and we have ears to hear him through the Holy Spirit in us. We are also specifically commanded not to call anyone teacher because we only have one teacher according to holiness (Jesus Christ). But specifically, and this is my opinion, I believe woman aren't allowed to teach in the pullpit. Using All of scripture as our foundation, it is written, woman aren't allowed to have authority over a man. Does this mean a woman has no authority, absolutely not! Its just How God has willed us to be in our roles together as men and woman living together, especially in this age. We all have different roles, and God upholds these roles Just as The Father and The Son and The Holy Spirit has different roles so does a man and a woman. Are woman any as less important or less valued? of course not! Now Are woman teachers...Of Course you are! Mothers are some of the best teachers! Woman are so blessed to be used by God to speak and teach spiritual truths into the lives of others. But as we are discussing the subject matter, In Gods Meeting place or church service, woman's roles, again in my opinion of what I believe is true by God does not permit woman to have certain authoratative positions in the church so they would not be in any position to make authority calls over a man especially the pullpit but also so they wont be tempted to.
 
So think about this brothers and sisters, would you rather eat fish given to you, not knowing from whence it came or what water? Or would you rather catch the fish and know from where it has come and what water it is in?
Either because we can check the fish to see if it is edible.