Is This a Red Flag??

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ocean

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If you are asking, I think you know. Red flag material. There are men telling you to walk away. I think they would know.
 

Mem

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You should definitely ask him directly, open communication in crucial to the success of any relationship. No, 'here's what you should think of this' stuff. So, it would go something like this, "It's concerning, I mean, the pic of you exes do disconcert me a bit, to be truthful...but I don't want to rush to judgment so I fibbed that it didn't really bother me.... why have you kept those pics, exactly?" Although this might trigger a defensive posture, you only wish to confirm your hope that maybe, "I'm just lazy about that kind of thing,' or 'they remind me that I am, indeed, date material, and here's proof..." or your fear that you will become Miss April in his calendar.
 

Mem

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You should definitely ask him directly, open communication in crucial to the success of any relationship. No, 'here's what you should think of this' stuff. So, it would go something like this, "It's concerning, I mean, the pic of you exes do disconcert me a bit, to be truthful...but I don't want to rush to judgment so I fibbed that it didn't really bother me.... why have you kept those pics, exactly?" Although this might trigger a defensive posture, you only wish to confirm your hope that maybe, "I'm just lazy about that kind of thing,' or 'they remind me that I am, indeed, date material, and here's proof..." or your fear that you will become Miss April in his calendar.
I think it might've been Soren Kierkegaard that once said that if God required only one thing from us, He requires honesty. And we should hope for at least that in our own relationships. Even if he admitted the worst of reasons for keeping the pics, he'd get double points for honesty, in my book.
 

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I'm curious of your opinions on this: in one of my relationships the guy I was getting to know told me he had all the pics of his former girlfriends in his phone gallery still. When I mentioned this to my sister she said "That's a red flag!"

I wasn't sure what to think. I didn't really like the thought of that, but I didn't want to say it was a red flag...

For myself, I tried to delete or get rid of old pics when I had moved on. (or when I was trying to move on)

What do y'all think??
very simple. if the pics were of her, nude, that's wrong. the guy you were getting to know sounds like it was NOT a steady relationship, is that true? if it was steady, no girl or guy is going to immediately delete pics as soon as the agreement is made to go steady. if it wasn't steady & the pics were all clothed of her, nothing wrong there. keeping pics of happy memories is a joy. to each, his or her own on memoirs. although "checking & investigating" one another is at an all time high concerning dating these days, & it should be, from what you posted, there isn't anything wrong.
 

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So it was at the very beginning of our relationship and we were unofficial... he mentioned me looking thru his pics sometime and warned me of the pics of his exes. He asked if I'd be okay seeing those too. I told him I didn't mind...but maybe I did.
Hi miss Hope! Very interesting thread and very interesting responses! 😎👍

Given the context of what you said in the above quote, my first impression is that he brought it up to guage your reaction. The "unofficial" stage of a relationship can be confusing because there are feelings present but you might not know how strong the other persons feelings are, where the friendship might be headed, etc.

He might have been trying to figure out if you'd react in a jealous/possessive way. Perhaps he would see that behavior as a red flag himself. Or, maybe he's drawn to posessive girls and was hoping to see that in you. Perhaps it was all for his own personal ego-building. I do not know. But it does sound like he brought it up intentionally.

For me personally (and it looks like I'm in the vast minority here lol 😅), given that your relationship was in its infancy, I would not see the pictures themselves as red flags (unless they were racy/suggestive). It might still bother me to see them (especially if some of the girls were prettier than I am, just being honest lol 😝), but I think I would consider that a "me" problem rather than a "him" problem. My concern would be more for his reason/intentions in bringing it up.

If the relationship were to progress to something more serious (like talking about marriage), I might feel differently about ex pics at that point.

I am a good bit older than you are, and I realize that romantic histories are pretty much a given at my age. I wouldn't want a guy to try to forget the ladies of his past, but rather to remember anything good he may have gotten from them. If holding on to old photos helped him with that then I think I'd be all for it. 🤷‍♀️

But keep in mind, I'm kind of weird and clearly in the minority here, so take all that with a grain of salt! 🤓
 

Snackersmom

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You should definitely ask him directly, open communication in crucial to the success of any relationship. No, 'here's what you should think of this' stuff. So, it would go something like this, "It's concerning, I mean, the pic of you exes do disconcert me a bit, to be truthful...but I don't want to rush to judgment so I fibbed that it didn't really bother me.... why have you kept those pics, exactly?" Although this might trigger a defensive posture, you only wish to confirm your hope that maybe, "I'm just lazy about that kind of thing,' or 'they remind me that I am, indeed, date material, and here's proof..." or your fear that you will become Miss April in his calendar.
Totally! I'd consider it a MUCH bigger red flag if we couldn't have a mature, open discussion about the pics and how we both felt about them.
 

Mem

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Totally! I'd consider it a MUCH bigger red flag if we couldn't have a mature, open discussion about the pics and how we both felt about them.
Ideally, we'd both like to procure a blessed assurance, definitely!
 

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I think it might've been Soren Kierkegaard that once said that if God required only one thing from us, He requires honesty. And we should hope for at least that in our own relationships. Even if he admitted the worst of reasons for keeping the pics, he'd get double points for honesty, in my book.
Honesty is the best policy.
 

HopeinHim98

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very simple. if the pics were of her, nude, that's wrong. the guy you were getting to know sounds like it was NOT a steady relationship, is that true? if it was steady, no girl or guy is going to immediately delete pics as soon as the agreement is made to go steady. if it wasn't steady & the pics were all clothed of her, nothing wrong there. keeping pics of happy memories is a joy. to each, his or her own on memoirs. although "checking & investigating" one another is at an all time high concerning dating these days, & it should be, from what you posted, there isn't anything wrong.
I'm sure it was nothing inappropriate like that. And yes you're correct it was not a steady dating relationship, we were just getting to know each other.

I wouldn't have expected him to immediately delete any photos of exes I don't think... it actually wasn't a big deal to me until my sister adamantly stated it was a red flag.
 

HopeinHim98

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Hi miss Hope! Very interesting thread and very interesting responses! 😎👍

Given the context of what you said in the above quote, my first impression is that he brought it up to guage your reaction. The "unofficial" stage of a relationship can be confusing because there are feelings present but you might not know how strong the other persons feelings are, where the friendship might be headed, etc.

He might have been trying to figure out if you'd react in a jealous/possessive way. Perhaps he would see that behavior as a red flag himself. Or, maybe he's drawn to posessive girls and was hoping to see that in you. Perhaps it was all for his own personal ego-building. I do not know. But it does sound like he brought it up intentionally.

For me personally (and it looks like I'm in the vast minority here lol 😅), given that your relationship was in its infancy, I would not see the pictures themselves as red flags (unless they were racy/suggestive). It might still bother me to see them (especially if some of the girls were prettier than I am, just being honest lol 😝), but I think I would consider that a "me" problem rather than a "him" problem. My concern would be more for his reason/intentions in bringing it up.

If the relationship were to progress to something more serious (like talking about marriage), I might feel differently about ex pics at that point.

I am a good bit older than you are, and I realize that romantic histories are pretty much a given at my age. I wouldn't want a guy to try to forget the ladies of his past, but rather to remember anything good he may have gotten from them. If holding on to old photos helped him with that then I think I'd be all for it. 🤷‍♀️

But keep in mind, I'm kind of weird and clearly in the minority here, so take all that with a grain of salt! 🤓
I definitely see your point! I took it that he was trying to be sensitive to my feelings when he brought it up...

Something I asked him was if all his 9 breakups were him or them. He said it was him, because when it came to a certain point he couldn't trust people. But he said God had since worked in his heart and he felt like he wouldn't struggle as much in that area.
 

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The guy obviously has feelings still for his ex. He's not ready to commit to a new relationship, regardless of what he may say.
If you enjoy his company and aren't looking for a commitment at present, nothing wrong with becoming friends, but if you believe he is over his past relationship, you are sadly mistaken.
 

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So it was at the very beginning of our relationship and we were unofficial... he mentioned me looking thru his pics sometime and warned me of the pics of his exes. He asked if I'd be okay seeing those too. I told him I didn't mind...but maybe I did.
Hmm... I don't why he'd want you to look through his all his pics in general, not even mentioning something specific, like, "you should checkout some of the nature vistas I captured" or whatever... and then to throw in about the exes.

I kind of agree with Snackermom that he was likely trying to read your reaction to it, or trying to make you think or feel a certain way. What that would be, I couldn't tell ya. Snackermom covered some of the usual suspects. It could even had been a quick joke to make you laugh... you'd probably have seen it in his expression.

If he was serious, maybe he wanted you to think he has lots of suiters to try to get you to want him more and compete for him. I would consider that creepy, manipulative and insulting. Or maybe he wanted to see if you were the jealous and possessive type because he was traumatized by it in the past. Or it could be a reason we'd never think up. You should ask and tell us what he says. :p
 

JohnDB

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It's usually not what you think.

He doesn't actually care about former girlfriends like he cares about you at the moment. But for whatever reason he is believing that your relationship will end because he believes he will fail for some unknown reason (like he has in the past). And pictures of you can be added to the others.

For some guys it's a badge of accomplishments....especially when they feel like they have not accomplished anything. Its a form of self soothing.

However there is a caution with this sort of self soothing....it can turn into the "thrill of the hunt" to where later he is flirting with other women. He likely isn't doing it now. But later when he is feeling too secure in your relationship he might do the flirting and possibly cheating.
 

Snackersmom

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One of my guy friends told me this guy showed him a pic of his last gf. I was immediately insecure and asked him, "Was she really pretty?" Lol.
OK, THIS part does strike me as a red flag 🚩. Of course, as always it would depend on the context. Maybe your guyfriend brought it up and asked to see a pic. But if not..... yeah that definitely sounds like conquest/trophy behavior. 😕
 

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Something I asked him was if all his 9 breakups were him or them. He said it was him, because when it came to a certain point he couldn't trust people. But he said God had since worked in his heart and he felt like he wouldn't struggle as much in that area.
9 different breakups characterised by the same trust issues would've been enough for me to pull the plug on any potential date. Nothing worse than entering a relationship with a repeating sentence which already murdered its full stop.

I would be dubious about anyone who kept a compendium of their exes photos. I fed the digital album of my last girlfriend to a file shredder, to eliminate any prospect that I might try and forensically exhume her photos from my storage drive in a moment of stupidity.

And showing friends a photo of an ex would be like trying to recap the ruins of a past victory. (n)
 
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I definitely see your point! I took it that he was trying to be sensitive to my feelings when he brought it up...

Something I asked him was if all his 9 breakups were him or them. He said it was him, because when it came to a certain point he couldn't trust people. But he said God had since worked in his heart and he felt like he wouldn't struggle as much in that area.
Sounds like maybe he just has a high level of sensitivity (neuroticism) and was trying to let you know ahead of time so you wouldn't get surprised if you saw pics of his exes on his phone.
 

kinda

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That's KINDA how it seemed. If I'm being honest.
There is no need to yell.
Not sure why your dragging me into this, but red flags are different, than pictures.


Below is a red flag...

Below is pictures on a phone...

Completely different really.

Actually, @Cameron143 , is an expert on red flags, and collecting tin foil.
 

HopeinHim98

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Hi HIH,

Everyone here has already given you stellar advice, so I just wanted to comment on this one detail.

It sounds like he was definitely a newer Christian and maybe he didn't know or even consider that deleting pics of his old girlfriends was a good way to clean the slate. I didn't have many boyfriends and I held on to pictures as a way of reminding myself that I'd found someone in the past, so hopefully this meant I could still find someone in the future. I was putting my faith in the past and not God.

One day, years later, God convicted me and I got rid of any pictures of any guy I had an attachment to, even childhood crushes. It was tough. I remember I had some pics from summer camp I really wanted to keep, but they included a counselor I had a huge crush on and God said, "Those have got to go!", even though it had been 15 years or more.

Now, it might just be a me thing, as I do tend to get attached to people and sometimes God will have me go through and get rid of certain things I'm apparently too emotionally drawn to.

But it took years to do this and again, it might be something more specific God convicts in me, and might not be as strict in others.

Since this guy you were around was a newer Christian, maybe God hadn't convicted him of deleting his pictures yet -- I'm not saying you should have had to accept it, I'm just saying, maybe God would have said he needs more time to be able to let go.

We would all be rich if we got a dollar every time someone quoted, "Do not be unequally yoked." But that's always spoken in the context of a believer with an unbeliever.

One of my frustrations with the church is that they never talk about being unequally yoked with another believer who is at a very different stage in their Christian walk. I've experienced this and personally feel it can be detrimental to relationships, because one person might have the time and experience to know certain things aren't right, but the other person has yet to learn this.

Now of course, believers in different stages MIGHT work out -- but I still think it's important to be mindful of where each person is in their journey.

Years ago, I was friends with a guy who was a new Christians (about 2 years,) but had to say no to dating because of our different stages. He was in a stage of discovering how rewarding it was to give in the name of the Lord. But he was also hooked on the feeling and attention it can bring, to the point where he was giving away so much, he needed help himself.

He was a great guy and had only the best of intentions. I tried to him about it, but he insisted that as followers of Christ, we are to help others -- and I think he was becoming very co-dependent on the reactions he got when he gave.

I could see very quickly that it would soon come down to me paying his bills while he gave what he had away, chasing that feeling of people's appreciation, and I knew this was not going to work.
Hey thanks seoul, I just saw this reply for some reason. I really appreciated your thoughts there! Esp about how you can be unequally yoked even with a Christian that's at a very different stage. Maybe it's extra important for the girl not to be too much further than ahead than the guy she's considering marrying because that would make respecting/submitting harder I think...
 
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As someone who gets around to cleaning pics off my phone about once every three years, I might suggest it was an innocent (though careless) oversight. His reaction when you ask about it determines whether it's a problem.
 

Lynx

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Yeah... I clear my pictures by just not copying them over when I get a new phone. (And that's not even a joke, just the truth.)