Is the Earth flat?

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gb9 said:
in a roundabout, you are proving my point.

instead of saying " i believe the earth is flat, you do not. we can agree to disagree, be blessed in Christ", you say all this.
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I "say all this" because I care...

As a "watcher" of sorts, it is my 'ministry' and my "duty" to try to "wake up my slumbering brethren" concerning the true nature of the world we live in. And, of course, not in any kind of "forced" way; but rather, as in invitation to "escape the MATRIX" (as it were) and grow in the knowledge-of-the-truth.

What you said above in the last line of your post - I have said that many times (in so many words in my own way, not those exact words) - and, continue to say it. You may certainly consider that I have now said it to you again. However, to get your attention - to get you to thinking about these things - I must say other things. Of course, you may do as you wish with what I have said - that is your prerogative. We can agree to disagree agreeably.

What you want me to say is akin to saying "take the blue pill, continue to sleep, believe what you want, nothing matters except your comfort" - I would much rather encourage you to take the red pill, wake up, and realize and understand the truth about the world you live in.

I always try to be polite when I try to "nudge" others to awaken - but, if what I say should "sting" a bit - perhaps, you should consider and think about why that might be happening...???

It is "with all of the Christian love I can muster" that I say these things. I am only trying to "jar you awake" in the hope that you will consider what I have said with the good purpose of helping others to better understand the truth about the world they live in.
 
GaryA said:
I "say all this" because I care...

As a "watcher" of sorts, it is my 'ministry' and my "duty" to try to "wake up my slumbering brethren" concerning the true nature of the world we live in. And, of course, not in any kind of "forced" way; but rather, as in invitation to "escape the MATRIX" (as it were) and grow in the knowledge-of-the-truth.

What you said above in the last line of your post - I have said that many times (in so many words in my own way, not those exact words) - and, continue to say it. You may certainly consider that I have now said it to you again. However, to get your attention - to get you to thinking about these things - I must say other things. Of course, you may do as you wish with what I have said - that is your prerogative. We can agree to disagree agreeably.

What you want me to say is akin to saying "take the blue pill, continue to sleep, believe what you want, nothing matters except your comfort" - I would much rather encourage you to take the red pill, wake up, and realize and understand the truth about the world you live in.

I always try to be polite when I try to "nudge" others to awaken - but, if what I say should "sting" a bit - perhaps, you should consider and think about why that might be happening...???

It is "with all of the Christian love I can muster" that I say these things. I am only trying to "jar you awake" in the hope that you will consider what I have said with the good purpose of helping others to better understand the truth about the world they live in.
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Why is this topic so important to you?
 
GaryA said:
Are you sure you are not thinking about the New Jerusalem rather than the New Earth?
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Some think that will BE the new earth.

"A cube that big, sitting on the ground?"

Look, I never said they were the brightest people...
 
GaryA said:
I "say all this" because I care...

As a "watcher" of sorts, it is my 'ministry' and my "duty" to try to "wake up my slumbering brethren" concerning the true nature of the world we live in. And, of course, not in any kind of "forced" way; but rather, as in invitation to "escape the MATRIX" (as it were) and grow in the knowledge-of-the-truth.

What you said above in the last line of your post - I have said that many times (in so many words in my own way, not those exact words) - and, continue to say it. You may certainly consider that I have now said it to you again. However, to get your attention - to get you to thinking about these things - I must say other things. Of course, you may do as you wish with what I have said - that is your prerogative. We can agree to disagree agreeably.

What you want me to say is akin to saying "take the blue pill, continue to sleep, believe what you want, nothing matters except your comfort" - I would much rather encourage you to take the red pill, wake up, and realize and understand the truth about the world you live in.

I always try to be polite when I try to "nudge" others to awaken - but, if what I say should "sting" a bit - perhaps, you should consider and think about why that might be happening...???

It is "with all of the Christian love I can muster" that I say these things. I am only trying to "jar you awake" in the hope that you will consider what I have said with the good purpose of helping others to better understand the truth about the world they live in.
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Yep, we got watchers. Boy do we got watchers. Watchers thick as skeeters round here lately. Being a watcher is doggone popular these days.
 
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GaryA said:
I "say all this" because I care...

As a "watcher" of sorts, it is my 'ministry' and my "duty" to try to "wake up my slumbering brethren" concerning the true nature of the world we live in. And, of course, not in any kind of "forced" way; but rather, as in invitation to "escape the MATRIX" (as it were) and grow in the knowledge-of-the-truth.

What you said above in the last line of your post - I have said that many times (in so many words in my own way, not those exact words) - and, continue to say it. You may certainly consider that I have now said it to you again. However, to get your attention - to get you to thinking about these things - I must say other things. Of course, you may do as you wish with what I have said - that is your prerogative. We can agree to disagree agreeably.

What you want me to say is akin to saying "take the blue pill, continue to sleep, believe what you want, nothing matters except your comfort" - I would much rather encourage you to take the red pill, wake up, and realize and understand the truth about the world you live in.

I always try to be polite when I try to "nudge" others to awaken - but, if what I say should "sting" a bit - perhaps, you should consider and think about why that might be happening...???

It is "with all of the Christian love I can muster" that I say these things. I am only trying to "jar you awake" in the hope that you will consider what I have said with the good purpose of helping others to better understand the truth about the world they live in.
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I am wondering why exactly it's so important because i have heard people actually point to it as a deciding factor in their salvation. I can't agree, but there were testimonies some have given that make it sound like they've seen to the holy Grail type experiences and an evangelistic enthusiasm.

I'm not sure how far you take it Gary and don't want to include you with those, but it just seems strange how I'm being shared articles from strange websites that insist that two weeks of hot weather is because of multiple SUNS and testimonials that FLAT earth is a life changing discovery, Bigfoot is worth a chunk of life searching for. These are a few of many such theories. It might be a fun diversion to read about for some, I suppose, but why is it more important than the hard core programming that is literally convincing boys to become girls, air and water pollution, people injected with literal toxins designed to attack our families?
These I have described exactly why we should take specific steps to protect loved ones.
However, the Flat Earth theory?
 
GaryA said:
That, of course, is ridiculous. I know folks IRL - who I am convinced are true Christians - who do not want to make that leap of faith in believing what the Bible says about the earth. By no means does that mean that they are not true Christians. They are simply "happy where they are at" in the knowledge-of-the-truth area of their Christian walk - having no desire to grow in knowledge and understanding where the true nature of the world they live in is concerned.

Most of the [active] members of this site seem to be in this predicament.

Flat Earth folks need to always remember that everyone - Christians and others alike - have been so perpetually bombarded since birth with the Ball Earth theory to the point of experiencing severe cognitive dissonance when presented with the truth concerning the true nature of the creation of the earth. For whatever reason(s), they are simply not willing to let go of it so that their eyes may be opened so that they may see the truth.

However, at the same time...


What is really sad to see is that the majority of Christians are willing to defend-to-the-death the Ball Earth theory having never actually proven it to themselves with their own God-given senses and ability to think it through to a proper conclusion.

What is really sad to see is that the majority of Christians are not willing to believe the words "which deceiveth the whole world" in Revelation 12:9. Just because God is truly ultimately in control does not mean that the devil is not wreaking havoc upon the world - deceiving in every possible way.

What is really sad to see is that the majority of Christians are not able-or-willing to put aside all of the stuff that has been pushed on[to] them since birth and do a good-and-proper study of what the Bible says about the earth. If they did/could/would do that, they could/would discover that they have been lied to since birth concerning the true nature of the creation of the
earth. (And, not to mention, other things as well.)

This is probably where the idea comes from whereby a Christian just cannot fathom why another Christian is not able-or-willing to see and understand what they can see and understand - to the point that they decide that the other Christian must not really be a real Christian. Only, they are overlooking the fact that even Christians may experience cognitive dissonance at times - until they are ready to put everything else aside and relieve their perplexity by placing the Word of God above and before all else.
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If you spent as much time and words on explaining how and why you know the earth is really flat as you do ranting about how all ball earthers are wrong blind and stupid someone might listen to you?
 
Edward429451 said:
If you spent as much time and words on explaining how and why you know the earth is really flat as you do ranting about how all ball earthers are wrong blind and stupid someone might listen to you?
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I love your optimism.
 
Lynx said:
Yep, we got watchers. Boy do we got watchers. Watchers thick as skeeters round here lately. Being a watcher is doggone popular these days.
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In fact we got so many SAWs - Self Appointed Watchmen - that they can't be the watchmen on the wall anymore. We ran out of wall. It's all full up.

They are either going to have to find a cliff to be the watchmen on the cliff from, build some more wall or maybe just be the watchmen standing on the ground from now on.
 
I hate to repeat myself, but practicing flat earthers aren’t allowed in a cockpit or the bridge on a ship because of their flawed logic when it comes to navigating. They are what a psychologist or a psychiatrist would label delusional.
 
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The Flat Earth Society,yes they are real, chartered a ship to sail to Antarctica years ago. Their aim was to prove the Earth is flat and they were going to find the ice wall that keeps that continent from falling off the edge.


Netflix made a documentary about the flat Earth.



Flat earthers are not intelligent. It's really that simple.
 
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They already DID that? And nobody told me?!

Strange that they have not been trumpeting their findings... A group that loud, you would think they would talk a lot louder about what they found out there. But they have been so quiet about the trip that I never knew they had been out there.
 
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