Is The Earth Flat Or Round?

[Moses_Young]

No, i am referencing your belief in a non-existent gravity in which the clear factual science that i have presented exposes the theory of gravity as unreliable and unproven.

Peace Brother Dino

i am signing out

To have a meaningful discussion, I think the word gravity should be defined, as I believe the Globalists are using a different definition of gravity to everyone else. Globalists tend to think of the observable phenomena that "things fall down" when the word "gravity" is used, although they don't understand that the theory they believe in requires that the force due to gravity act in any direction. When a Flat Earther indicates he doesn't believe in the theory of gravity, this refers to the unproven theory that gravity can act in any direction. Things always fall downward due to density (heavier fluids displacing lighter fluids) - no one disputes this observable phenomena, right?

 

[DavidTree]

To have a meaningful discussion, I think the word gravity should be defined, as I believe the Globalists are using a different definition of gravity to everyone else. Globalists tend to think of the observable phenomena that "things fall down" when the word "gravity" is used, although they don't understand that the theory they believe in requires that the force due to gravity act in any direction. When a Flat Earther indicates he doesn't believe in the theory of gravity, this refers to the unproven theory that gravity can act in any direction. Things always fall downward due to density (heavier fluids displacing lighter fluids) - no one disputes this observable phenomena, right?

Correct as you stated = "Things always fall downward due to density (heavier fluids displacing lighter fluids) - no one disputes this observable phenomena, right"

 

[Dino246]

To have a meaningful discussion, I think the word gravity should be defined, as I believe the Globalists are using a different definition of gravity to everyone else.

Also, the Flat Earth proponents need to stop calling ball Earth proponents "globalists". That term has other, unrelated implications.

Globalists tend to think of the observable phenomena that "things fall down" when the word "gravity" is used, although they don't understand that the theory they believe in requires that the force due to gravity act in any direction. When a Flat Earther indicates he doesn't believe in the theory of gravity, this refers to the unproven theory that gravity can act in any direction.

I can't speak for others, but I do understand and believe that gravity acts in all directions.

Things always fall downward due to density (heavier fluids displacing lighter fluids) - no one disputes this observable phenomena, right?

Gravity explains it perfectly. Density does not because it doesn't account for acceleration. Acceleration is only possible through the application of a force. Density, by itself, is not a force.

 

[Moses_Young]

Also, the Flat Earth proponents need to stop calling ball Earth proponents "globalists". That term has other, unrelated implications.

Disagree. Globe refers the shape of the Earth, not a political belief (although the latter politics is likely the ultimate result of the former worldview). Globalist correctly, in the true meaning of the word, should be applied to those who believe the Earth is a globe.

I can't speak for others, but I do understand and believe that gravity acts in all directions.

And yet all your examples to prove it are based on examples of it working in the downward direction, which nobody denies, irrespective of its name.

Gravity explains it perfectly. Density does not because it doesn't account for acceleration. Acceleration is only possible through the application of a force. Density, by itself, is not a force.

As stated above, gravity only works downward. When a Flat Earther asks a Globalist to prove gravity, he is not asking for demonstration of the downward force that is readily observed by all, irrespective of what name is applied to it. He is interested in a demonstration of this force in any other direction (upward would be useful), to demonstrate it does indeed exist as the theory of gravity implies.

 

[DavidTree]

That's what I said. Oh, wait, you could not see beyond your ego. Never mind

And due to your ego, you cannot answer the question.

Magenta Ego = Provide evidence of exactly what technology/science is in use/application whereby the theory of gravity is negated in the helium balloon.

 

[Dino246]

Disagree. Globe refers the shape of the Earth, not a political belief (although the latter politics is likely the ultimate result of the former worldview). Globalist correctly, in the true meaning of the word, should be applied to those who believe the Earth is a globe.

Incorrect. A globalist is a person who seeks a centralized global government. Belief in a ball Earth has nothing to do with government or political agendas. I do not appreciate being slandered with the wrong term.

And yet all your examples to prove it are based on examples of it working in the downward direction, which nobody denies, irrespective of its name.

As stated above, gravity only works downward. When a Flat Earther asks a Globalist to prove gravity, he is not asking for demonstration of the downward force that is readily observed by all, irrespective of what name is applied to it. He is interested in a demonstration of this force in any other direction (upward would be useful), to demonstrate it does indeed exist as the theory of gravity implies.

Tides: "upward gravity".

 

[Dino246]

And due to your ego, you cannot answer the question.

Magenta Ego = Provide evidence of exactly what technology/science is in use/application whereby the theory of gravity is negated in the helium balloon.

As I have explained, helium balloons don't negate gravity, but rather confirm it.

 

[DavidTree]

You are so right!

The 2nd Book of Anti-Gravity Chaper 5 clearly states that an interest in alchemy is the unpardonable sin.
And scientists are unforgivable.

What??? Selling brains? I thought you believed that God was the creator.
Have you taken your medication today.

Hopefully, we will see Newton in Heaven.

"You believe that there is one God. You do well. Even the demons believe—and tremble!" James 2:19

Newton also believed in and studied the occultic ways of the ancients.

"many will say to me 'Lord, Lord................" Matt 7:21

Peace to you today Lucy

 

[DavidTree]

As I have explained, helium balloons don't negate gravity, but rather confirm it.

How so? Please explain - Thank You

 

[Dino246]

How so? Please explain - Thank You

See post 813.

 

[DavidTree]

See post 813.

You said: "air is heavier then helium is due to gravity"

That's truly amazing = Please provide evidence of such you claim.

 

[Dino246]

You said: "air is heavier then helium is due to gravity"

That's truly amazing = Please provide evidence of such you claim.

No. I'm not going to waste any more time explaining things that you refuse to understand.

 

[DavidTree]

No. I'm not going to waste any more time explaining things that you refuse to understand.

i understand that the 'theory of gravity' is unproven.

i understand that the question cannot be answered due to 'gravity'.

The balloon falls back to earth because it is heavier(key word) then the air which it travels thru and the air cannot support the weight(key word) of the balloon.

This is observable science in action.

This is the world which the Creator has fashioned for us to dwell in while in our physical bodies.

There is a mysterious Power that holds all things together, and it is not gravity.

"God, who at various times and in various ways spoke in time past to the fathers by the prophets, has in these last days spoken to us by His Son, whom He has appointed heir of all things, through whom also He made the worlds;
who being the brightness of His glory and the express image of His person, and upholding all things by the word of His power,"
Hebrews 1:1-3

Peace Brother Dino

 

[Dino246]

i understand that the 'theory of gravity' is unproven.

i understand that the question cannot be answered due to 'gravity'.

The balloon falls back to earth because it is heavier(key word) then the air which it travels thru and the air cannot support the weight(key word) of the balloon.

This is observable science in action.

You have observed the phenomenon of falling. Now account for the phenomenon of acceleration.

 

[tobewholeagain]

PS - any mass that falls to the ground when dropped is 100% purely due to the fact that it is heavier then the air around it - Period.

That heaviness is the pull of gravity.

 

[DavidTree]

That heaviness is the pull of gravity.

This is hysterically funny and 100% unscientific.

Peace to you in the LORD Jesus Christ who holds all things together by the Power of His Word.

 

[Dino246]

This is hysterically funny and 100% unscientific.

 

[Magenta]

That heaviness is the pull of gravity.

The Flat Earth idea is not compatible with Gravitational Theory. How Flat Earth enthusiasts
reconcile this with the idea of objects falling can be varied. However, a common "go to" answer
is one that attempts to explain gravity away with the concept of density. This type of gravity
denial is examined, along with a demonstration that poses some questions.

 

[tobewholeagain]

This is hysterically funny and 100% unscientific.

In physics, gravity (from Latin gravitas 'weight' is a fundamental interaction which causes mutual attraction between all things with mass or energy.

Every planetary body (including the Earth) is surrounded by its own gravitational field, which can be conceptualized with Newtonian physics as exerting an attractive force on all objects. Assuming a spherically symmetrical planet, the strength of this field at any given point above the surface is proportional to the planetary body's mass and inversely proportional to the square of the distance from the center of the body.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravity#Earth's_gravity
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[Polar]

i see your snoozing
its time you wake UP

A helium balloon rises up into the atmosphere.
What special ant-gravity technology is being implemented?

make sure you stay anchored with cement blocks or equivalent at all times. all that helium yah know

I've read all kinds of baloney in the forum with regards to trying to prove the earth is flat but you take the pancake