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So far, God has said = "i'm doing very good believing His words."
Is The Earth Flat Or Round?
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So far, God has said = "i'm doing very good believing His words."
He is making a joke.
He is not saying that he believes the earth is flat.
I plan to give you a response when I can find/make time. Be patient.
In the meanwhile, you might want to study very carefully everything the Bible says about the earth, sun, moon, and stars.
I know you will probably say 'I already have.' - well, do it again and again if necessary - until you [at least] understand that the significance of the Opera House issue pales in comparison to - for example - the sun and moon standing still for ~24 hours.
Perhaps you might explain how this can even happen in the Ball Earth model...???
Nobody needs to explain it, because it's a miracle. Let's focus on what is observable, repeat(able), and testable. Miracles aren't in that category. Northward shadows South of the Tropic of Capricorn are.
Microsoft Flight Simulator 2020 shows you a globe with half lit by the sun half in the dark. You can spin it around and choose to fly anywhere including over your house. The sun in the sky in the simulation using spherical trigonometry is exactly where you see it outside in real time.
Serious: Is there a video that flat earthers recommend that best justifies their view? I honestly have never seen any evidence and always thought this theory was just people having fun joking around online.
Serious: Is there a video that flat earthers recommend that best justifies their view? I honestly have never seen any evidence and always thought this theory was just people having fun joking around online.
What???
You mean Northward shadows in Sydney are not just a miracle?How do you classify a miracle?
Anything that you cannot explain...???
Sorry - you are not getting off that easy.
Calling it a miracle is a cop-out.
I do not believe it was a miracle - in the sense of defying 'physics' as God set it up during Creation Week.
I believe God simply used a mechanism already in place since Creation Week to temporarily modify the behavior of the sun and moon.
What???
How do you classify a miracle?
Anything that you cannot explain...???
Sorry - you are not getting off that easy.
Calling it a miracle is a cop-out.
I do not believe it was a miracle - in the sense of defying 'physics' as God set it up during Creation Week.
I believe God simply used a mechanism already in place since Creation Week to temporarily modify the behavior of the sun and moon.
The mechanism me uses to make northward shadows in Sydney is called a... flashlight!
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You're welcome to your opinion, but you can neither prove it by Scripture nor by testing. It was a one-time event, outside the realm of testable science.What???
How do you classify a miracle?
Anything that you cannot explain...???
Sorry - you are not getting off that easy.
Calling it a miracle is a cop-out.
I do not believe it was a miracle - in the sense of defying 'physics' as God set it up during Creation Week.
I believe God simply used a mechanism already in place since Creation Week to temporarily modify the behavior of the sun and moon.
Meanwhile, you are STILL avoiding dealing with the Sydney Opera House shadows, YEARS after I originally posted the pictures. You're the one trying to "get off easy" by throwing up red herrings. I get it: you're busy. Not too busy to keep posting responses though.
All those videos of the rotation of the Earth! That took a lot of Photoshopping!
You do know that they had to poke a hole in the Earth and deflate it to get those pictures, don't you?
Why couldn't God
If you're in Australia, your flashlight is a torch
The mechanism me uses to make northward shadows in Sydney is called a... flashlight!
If you're in Australia, your flashlight is a torch
Scripture disagrees.
"There has been no day like it before or since, when the Lord listened to a man, because the Lord fought for Israel."
~Josh 10:14
The Sydney Opera House shadows occur naturally and regularly. God doesn't throw hailstones at The Amorites everyday.
The Biblical record confirms that there are times when God interrupts the natural order or intervenes in it.
If God's word said that the earth is flat, I would agree with you. It does not. The Bible is silent about many things. You won't find a mention of the speed of light, or the principle of gravity. It talks about the rainbow, but does not explain how a droplet of water can act as a prism. God has left these mysteries for men to discover. The shape of the earth is such a mystery.
People are no more intelligent now than they were thousands of years ago. It's been known for over 2,000 years that the earth is a globe. It takes a special kind of blindness to ignore such overwhelming evidence and believe something that is patently false. I'll say it again: when FE people explore the earth and produce a real map that shows it to be flat, I will reconsider my position. But they won't. Because they cannot. Because the earth is a globe.
Would you please see Post 1068 and let me know what you see the Scripture is saying to us.
Thank You Brother
Signing out - Good Night and God Bless you
The fact that I am a born-again Christian is outside the realm of testable science - but, I believe it!
Part of the problem is - when people treat science like it was the Bible (accepting without question whatever science says), and the Bible like it was science (not willing to believe what scripture says without proof).
Do you see how "backwards" this is? (You have Satan to thank for that.)
People of faith should be more apt to believe what the Bible says and question what 'science' (man) says.
If you put science before the Bible, it will cause you to "miss" or "overlook" what the Bible is trying to tell you.
If you put the Bible before science, you will accept what God says about the earth - it is 'stationary' / 'does not move', it 'has corners', it 'sits on pillars', etc. etc. etc. - and, you will question science when/where it does not agree with what the Bible says.
The Bible says that - on Creation Day - God created a 'firmament' with water above and below it.
The Bible says that the sun, moon, and stars are in the firmament.
The Bible says that the birds fly in the firmament.
What is the 'firmament'?
What else does the Bible say in regard to the 'firmament'?
When are you going to "forget about science" long enough to understand properly what the Bible is saying? And, then see how science measures up to what the Bible says?
You will never understand any of this properly until you are willing to take 'science' to the 'altar' at the feet of Jesus and 'sacrifice' it - forsake it entirely - forget it entirely - giving it no place whatsoever with regard to the truth of scripture - so that you may have a 'full' understanding of what scripture is trying to tell you.
Until you do this - 'science' will be your 'god' where your understanding of our reality is concerned.
I am not avoiding anything.
Don't assume so much - you don't realize just how much time I have spent looking at the pictures (and other related research) and pondering, thinking, etc. since you originally posted the pictures.
I am still looking into it - as I have time. (Which is really not a whole lot.)
Nope. Nothing like that. Absolutely not.
You don't understand my limitations in this area. Perhaps I will explain it more later. Just keep in mind that the requirements for writing longer - and, especially, more in-depth/serious posts - go up "exponentially" with the length of the post and the depth of the intent of the post.
Short responses are not nearly so "involved" as long ones.
And, another thing - when you and others "throw out" stuff that "becomes more important" in terms of "having to deal with it" - weeeeell, it pushes-off-til-even-later such a post as you are waiting for me to write. So - what is more important to you - keep producing a bunch of distraction 'crap' with the intent to constantly and continually "back me into a corner" and/or "trip me up" - or - have the more intelligent and meaningful conversations you really want sooner by not doing all of that other crazy crap...???
The choice is yours. (collectively)
It is up to you and your Ball Earth 'compatriots' - what is more important - meaningful respectful conversations or
???