It is easily observable when you are out on the ocean with a telescope. Everything sinks below or rises up on the horizon.
Is The Earth Flat Or Round?
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Both incorrect and irrelevant to my post.
Wow. What colour is the sky in your flat world? Is there even a sky?
"If I have said it once, I have said it a hundred times - you cannot examine and reason Flat Earth from a Ball Earth perspective."
The ancient Greeks did not have a ball earth perspective. They were able to determine the shape of the globe by observation and by empirical research. When flat earthers send out teams of explorers to map the world and create a real map, rather than the fake that is so often used by FE proponents, maybe they will have some credibility.
I know that I am human, a 71 year old male to be more exact. I see things from that perspective. Likewise, the earth is in fact a globe. Why would I not see things from that perspective?
The ancient Greeks did not have a ball earth perspective. They were able to determine the shape of the globe by observation and by empirical research. When flat earthers send out teams of explorers to map the world and create a real map, rather than the fake that is so often used by FE proponents, maybe they will have some credibility.
I know that I am human, a 71 year old male to be more exact. I see things from that perspective. Likewise, the earth is in fact a globe. Why would I not see things from that perspective?
Having spent 3-1/2 years on a warship, I can assure you that the curvature of the earth is obvious. You can see what ancient mariners observed thousands of years ago.
I worked on radar systems. High frequency radar beams are highly directional and so do not follow the curvature of the earth. That's why you see so many repeater stations for radio, TV and mobile phones. The aerials are as high as possible to overcome the curvature of the earth. Of course, no fact will ever convince an FE person. "None so blind....." etc.
You've got it exactly reversed. Observation and true science prove that the earth is a globe. I don't know what Occam's Razor has to do with the subject. Sure, where I'm standing is, to all intents and purposes, flat. That's because the circumference of the globe is so large. There is ample evidence that the earth is a globe, to me, "beyond reasonable doubt". I have no evidence to suggest the contrary.
Are you aware that radar beams travel in straight lines (i.e. not around curves)? Do you know how far those radar beams travel? If not, your argument is little more than sincere belief.
They're not. You're using heavenly bodies (i.e. the sun and the shadow it casts) to try to demonstrate that the Earth is a ball. If the Earth is a ball, it would be demonstrable here on Earth, not require assumptions about the heavenly bodies, which we do not fully understand.
The sky is a firmament, and it is blue.
I have observed the curve in the Alps.
When distant peaks I know to be over 2000m higher than the one I'm standing appear lower in my view.
When distant peaks I know to be over 2000m higher than the one I'm standing appear lower in my view.
I haven't made any assumptions about heavenly bodies. I have challenged you and other FE proponents to explain the observed reality in the framework of your FE model(s).
NONE of you have done so. None have even attempted to do so. Gary has attempted to explain it away, and you seem to be attempting to throw a red herring. Neither is an acceptable refutation of the observed evidence supporting globe earth.
Please define "firmament" as you understand it, without using the words "sky" or "heaven".
The further away it is from you - everything appears smaller and closer to the horizon...
Agreed. This can be demonstrated with a simple 2-d drawing.
However, the same is true of objects in the distance on a curved surface, which can also be demonstrated with a simple 2-D drawing. The apparent height of the objects will be less over a curved surface than over a flat surface.
This allows curvature to be measured, though in the real world one would need to know the actual heights and distances (from the observer) of all key features, and account for any atmospheric distortion.
I believe it's a sphere.but ill just throw this out there how can a ship laser target another ship 62.137 miles 100 km when it should be miles behind the curv unless the planet is a lot bigger than we have been told
The Bible nowhere says the earth is flat. Despite this fact, some FE'ers claim it does.
That is not from curvature but from distance whereby the further away you are from the object the smaller and lower to the horizon it becomes and eventually vanishes from view.
Scientists have used lazer technology and high powered infrared photography to see mountains that should be hundreds of feet below the supposed curvature of the earth.
Global earth is satan's end-time plan of deception that has covered the whole earthbound human intellect.
Water also proves a flat earth = 24/7 anywhere on the 'planet' (haha).
'Gravity' is also easily disproven by true science.
Keep in mind that gravity is a theory and has never been proven and cannot be proven and is another part of the Global Deception.
Ships that disappear below the horizon can be seen with high powered spotting scopes = again disproving a global earth.
The Lord Jesus Christ is Truth and HE always leads us into truth IF you dare to follow.
The consequences for believing Truth is death to this life and Life Eternal in Him.
Gravity is easily proven. Climb a tree and jump. If you go up then you are right. If you don't at least consider the alternative.
Where were you when I laid the foundations of the earth?
Tell Me, if you have understanding.
5Who determined its measurements?
Surely you know!
Or who stretched the line upon it?
6To what were its foundations fastened?
Or who laid its cornerstone,
Job ch38
The earth has foundations and it is not a ball spinning thru space.
Edumacate yourself on the Truth and review the 'supposed' pictures of the earth taken from space by NASA.
That has nothing to do with (non-existant) gravity.
It has to do with science facts such as your body density pushing downward on air that cannot support your body mass/density.
The theory of gravity is easily disproven by true science and physics.