Is The Earth Flat Or Round?

[GaryA]

What do FE people call the air we breathe? The atmosflat?

I wish I had thought of "atmosflat". I did not. I don't remember exactly where I saw the remark, but it made me laugh.

That is funny - I will have to remember that one...

 

[Gideon300]

Science is the observation of experimentation and designing more experiments based on the results. I've seen every star in the sky flashing pink, green and blue simultaneously. Nowhere in any school or text book will you find that. You will find nonsense about stars being billions of years old and different colours but appearing to the naked eye as white dots. This simple fact alone is enough for me to know that their claims are deception. That's before I could use any hundreds of proofs you can find videos of.

You want me to believe that scientists are smart enough to tell me the shape of the Earth, it's age, etc. Yet I can watch people debunk the Earth's curvature with lasers or a telescope showing boats that don't disappear on the horizon.

I don't think the shape of the Earth is important to men, nor is it required for salvation. I just think it's funny that Christians would rather side with scientists than what God said. Not me.



It's not my responsibility to provide hundreds of links to websites and videos of people proving that heliocentricism is satanic garbage. I'm glad that God reveals things to me, even more so when you insult me and get thumbs up emoji garbage all over your posts.

The earth is a sphere. It's proven by measurement and by observation. If you want to call the born again who landed on the moon liars, fine. I believe them. For every argument raised by FE people, there is a perfectly logical and accurate response. Star light is affected by atmospherics. Light is affected by moisture in the atmosphere, which is also affected by air temperature and such. The sky appears blue because the other wavelengths are absorbed by the atmosphere, except at sunrise and sunset. The light path through the atmosphere allows red through more readily. There are other variables including the amount of dust suspended in the air.

It's not rocket surgery. I used to work on microwave systems on a warship. The aerial on my system was located almost the highest point. I know, because I had to climb up and test it. I hate heights. The reason for the height is simple. Microwaves travel in straight lines. If the earth was flat, there would be no need to mount aerials at the highest point. Microwaves cannot follow the curvature of the earth. It's that simple. There are countless examples, but FE people reject every bit of evidence. They are deluded.

 

[GaryA]

"circle of the earth" = globe

A globe is a sphere.

A circle is a circle.

A ball is a ball.

 

[GaryA]

There are countless examples, but FE people reject every bit of evidence.

FE people only reject so-called "evidence" which is believed-without-proof.

BE people are not willing to even take a good serious look at real "evidence"...

That video in post #351 has more real science represented in it than all of the BE "evidence" contained in all of the threads on this site.

Anyone who thinks that video is about "the poles" has totally missed 95 percent of what it is actually about.

Which illustrates just how little attention people give something if they believe it has anything to do with FE.

That video is about:

45N vs 45S
50N vs 50S
55N vs 55S
60N vs 60S
65N vs 65S
70N vs 70S
75N vs 75S
80N vs 80S
85N vs 85S

If you will truly consider what that video is saying - and, apply real critical thinking (assuming that you really actually know how to apply it to the BE model) - you should quickly arrive at the conclusion that the reality we experience does not match what the BE model suggests.

 

[HealthAndHappiness]

A globe is a sphere.

A circle is a circle.

A ball is a ball.

We know that the term circle wasn't translated by a trigonometry professor arguing the two dimensional aspect of a circle, which doesn't really technically exist other than on a computer screen. We look at the moon and ask a child what shape it is and know exactly what they mean. They also comprehend that it's spherical.

 

[Gojira]

We know that the term circle wasn't translated by a trigonometry professor arguing the two dimensional aspect of a circle, which doesn't really technically exist other than on a computer screen. We look at the moon and ask a child what shape it is and know exactly what they mean. They also comprehend that it's spherical.

It's useless. They're pro-science when it supports their contention, anti-science when it doesn't. This thread is more entertainment now than real discussion.

 

[Gojira]

Flat-earth doesn't have any evidence. If you are claiming it does, present it.
6 centuries of maliciously-motivated liars, many of them Christians? That's one big conspiracy fantasy.

I must confess to being one of the agents of darkness here.

 

[Polar]

The earth is a donut hole with a pancake for an atmosflat. The earth sounds delicious! And only now are we discovering that...

and the moon is made of cheese as we all know. here you can see cheezies falling, so that proves it is falling from the moon and the moon creates snacks

 

[GaryA]

We know that the term circle wasn't translated by a trigonometry professor arguing the two dimensional aspect of a circle, which doesn't really technically exist other than on a computer screen.

We know that the word 'circle' was translated by a group of expert linguists who had the responsibility of translating the Word of God.

And, that is why we have both 'circle' and 'ball' in scripture - both the original language (Hebrew) and the language it was translated into (English) distinguish the two words and their definitions.

'circle' means circle

'ball' means ball

It is that simple.

 

[GaryA]

It's useless. They're pro-science when it supports their contention, anti-science when it doesn't.

pro-real-science; anti-fake-science

 

[awelight]

The earth in 3 or 4 dimensions is an oblate spheroid. Depending on what plane you measure it may or may not be round.

In lower or higher dimensions we need different words.

The Earth is a sphere.

I should like to examine this claim and two passages from Scripture on which it is based, using a sample of creationist literature. First, Eastman's article states:

Despite contrary assertions, the fact of a spherical earth was clearly proclaimed in the Bible by the prophet Isaiah nearly twenty-eight centuries ago ... "It is He who sits above the circle of the earth, and its inhabitants are like grasshoppers [etc.]" Isaiah 40:22 (NKJ). When Isaiah wrote this verse he used the Hebrew word "khug" to describe the shape of the earth. Although this word is commonly translated into the English word "circle," the literal meaning of this word is "a sphere."​

The Bible, Eastman writes, offers

an astonishing piece of scientific foreknowledge ... While speaking of the incredible power of God, Job states of the earth [26:7]: "He stretches out the north over empty space; He hangs the earth on nothing" (NKJ). When we consider that twenty-eight centuries ago the prevailing view of the earth was that it was flat and resting on the back of an animal or Greek god, the biblical view of a spherical earth suspended on nothing is astonishing.​

 

[Lucy-Pevensie]

pro-real-science; anti-fake-science

The map that is shown in that video isn't even a flat-earth map. It's an azimuthal equidistant projection of the globe.
A map of the globe taken from a perspective above the NP with it's surface flattened to a plane to make it possible to view
a 3-dimensional surface in 2 dimensions. That's why everything looks distorted with no consistent scale.

You can see an azimuthal equidistant map from above the NP, SP or any other earth location.
Here: https://www.flatearthlab.com/WebGL/#

There don't appear to be any surveyors or cartographers in the FE camp.

 

[posthuman]

The Earth is a sphere.

I should like to examine this claim and two passages from Scripture on which it is based, using a sample of creationist literature. First, Eastman's article states:

Despite contrary assertions, the fact of a spherical earth was clearly proclaimed in the Bible by the prophet Isaiah nearly twenty-eight centuries ago ... "It is He who sits above the circle of the earth, and its inhabitants are like grasshoppers [etc.]" Isaiah 40:22 (NKJ). When Isaiah wrote this verse he used the Hebrew word "khug" to describe the shape of the earth. Although this word is commonly translated into the English word "circle," the literal meaning of this word is "a sphere."​

The Bible, Eastman writes, offers

an astonishing piece of scientific foreknowledge ... While speaking of the incredible power of God, Job states of the earth [26:7]: "He stretches out the north over empty space; He hangs the earth on nothing" (NKJ). When we consider that twenty-eight centuries ago the prevailing view of the earth was that it was flat and resting on the back of an animal or Greek god, the biblical view of a spherical earth suspended on nothing is astonishing.​

funny thing about a sphere is that its outline is always a circle no matter what direction you look at it from.

 

[posthuman]

The map that is shown in that video isn't even a flat-earth map. It's an azimuthal equidistant projection of the globe.
A map of the globe taken from a perspective above the NP with it's surface flattened to a plane to make it possible to view
a 3-dimensional surface in 2 dimensions. That's why everything looks distorted with no consistent scale.

You can see an azimuthal equidistant map from above the NP, SP or any other earth location.
Here: https://www.flatearthlab.com/WebGL/#

There don't appear to be any surveyors or cartographers in the FE camp.

this one is the most Biblically accurate 'flat-earth' co-opt.
Jerusalem being the center

 

[Gojira]

and the moon is made of cheese as we all know. here you can see cheezies falling, so that proves it is falling from the moon and the moon creates snacks

Wow, the moon is delicious too!

 

[Gojira]

pro-real-science; anti-fake-science

And I could swing back with the opposite to you.

Round and round we go. Weeeeeeeee!!!!!!!

 

[Lucy-Pevensie]

And I could swing back with the opposite to you.

Round and round we go. Weeeeeeeee!!!!!!!

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[Gojira]

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eggzactly.. see what I did there? an egg's sort of spheresque

 

[Gojira]

The Earth is a sphere.

I should like to examine this claim and two passages from Scripture on which it is based, using a sample of creationist literature. First, Eastman's article states:

Despite contrary assertions, the fact of a spherical earth was clearly proclaimed in the Bible by the prophet Isaiah nearly twenty-eight centuries ago ... "It is He who sits above the circle of the earth, and its inhabitants are like grasshoppers [etc.]" Isaiah 40:22 (NKJ). When Isaiah wrote this verse he used the Hebrew word "khug" to describe the shape of the earth. Although this word is commonly translated into the English word "circle," the literal meaning of this word is "a sphere."​

The Bible, Eastman writes, offers

an astonishing piece of scientific foreknowledge ... While speaking of the incredible power of God, Job states of the earth [26:7]: "He stretches out the north over empty space; He hangs the earth on nothing" (NKJ). When we consider that twenty-eight centuries ago the prevailing view of the earth was that it was flat and resting on the back of an animal or Greek god, the biblical view of a spherical earth suspended on nothing is astonishing.​

It's not going to sink in you know. Your efforts are going to fall... flat. Get it? See what I did there?

 

[GaryA]

And I could swing back with the opposite to you.

Round and round we go. Weeeeeeeee!!!!!!!

So - you are saying that you are pro-fake-science and anti-real-science...???