IS SIN A CHOICE?
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ABSOLUTELY!!! God has to power to accomplish His will, but He will never contradict His word to accomplish His will.
it is not His will that any perish but that ALL COME TO REPENTANCE.
but not all are saved????
love must have a choice or you can't call it love. God gives man the opportunity to Love Him!!!
Yes he did die to pay for my sins, and because he paid for all of my sins, I will inherit eternal life, and no sin that I commit will be a reason for me not to go to heaven.
So God wants to save all mankind, and yet he cannot, because mankind will not let him. That does not sound like my God that has all power to do his will.
Has anyone brought up these people who sinned and definitely had no choice but TO sin. They were made to sin.
Judas
Pharoh
Adam
..........a longer list and some folks will be having hysterics
OR about Paul who claimed to be the chief sinner.....doing what he should not and not doing what he should........
Anyone who know our SOVEREIGN God knows that He does with His people as He will......as our Potter He has made pots for glory and pots for destruction. If you are a glory pot, fall on your face and thank God for NONE of His precious elect pots have done one thing to deserve His grace.
I surely think not, but our flesh sometimes does that which our Spirit would not desire to do.
Amen. That is why why confession and repentance needs to be an ongoing thing in the life of a growing believer.
I thank God that one day we will be resurrected in incorruptible Bodies. We can have hope in every trouble and trial as we are know it is not forever.
This is the day we all long for - when there is an end to the earthly battle against the old man, that is ruled by this physical mortal coil.
To think Jesus humbled Himself to also be born as we, in such limited form, that of human flesh. Laying aside His majesty and residing - and suffering daily - amidst a people who had no idea who He was and what He had given up willingly, even before the cross, for such as us.
Let’s thank God for the Hope that is set before us, and that this battle will be well worth all that is to come
God knows the spirit is indeed willing but the human flesh (as it is on earth before resurrection,) is indeed still weak
There is always forgiveness on offer for those who trust in Christ. Saved or unsaved the remedy remains the same. If not, no man could be saved.
This is the day we all long for - when there is an end to the earthly battle against the old man, that is ruled by this physical mortal coil.
To think Jesus humbled Himself to also be born as we, in such limited form, that of human flesh. Laying aside His majesty and residing - and suffering daily - amidst a people who had no idea who He was and what He had given up willingly, even before the cross, for such as us.
Let’s thank God for the Hope that is set before us, and that this battle will be well worth all that is to come
God knows the spirit is indeed willing but the human flesh (as it is on earth before resurrection,) is indeed still weak
There is always forgiveness on offer for those who trust in Christ. Saved or unsaved the remedy remains the same. If not, no man could be saved.
There is more truth to your sarcastic remark than you have sense enough to even know.
God won't force himself on nobody. Love must have a choice
O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not!
Matthew 23:37
THERE IS A BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN CANNOT AND WILL NOT!!
And they that passed by railed on him, wagging their heads, and saying, Ah, thou that destroyest the temple, and buildest it in three days, Save thyself, and come down from the cross. Likewise also the chief priests mocking said among themselves with the scribes, He saved others; himself he cannot save. Let Christ the King of Israel descend now from the cross, that we may see and believe. And they that were crucified with him reviled him.
Mark 15:29-32 KJV
He could have saved himself but he chose not to
You should be ashamed to write such garbage. GOD IS NO RESPECT OF PERSONS.
Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man:
James 1:13 KJV
Anybody with one eyeball and half a brain knows God gives every man a choice to serve him or reject him
THATS CALLED LOVE
So what about Esau? God hated Esau Malachi 1:3
AND.....when Esau sought for repentance, God would not grant it to him. Hebrews 12:17
Adam - the cross was predestined, without Adam sinning there was no need for sacrifice
PHaroh, - God hardened his heart so that he would not let the people go
JUdas -son of perditioin (hell) born to betray
Whaddya say to THAT?
DO YOU REALLY THINK WHEN JACOB AND ESAU WAS BABIES, GOD HATED BABY ESAU? NO
God is not talking about personal but national and the word hated there is means preference
DO YOU THINK GOD REALLY WANTS YOU TO HATE YOUR MOM AND DAD OR PREFER HIM ABOVE THEM?
If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.
Luke 14:26 KJV
Look what God told Rebekah about her twins:
And the Lord said unto her, Two nations are in thy womb, and two manner of people shall be separated from thy bowels; and the one people shall be stronger than the other people; and the elder shall serve the younger.
Genesis 25:23 KJV
Esau tried to find a way for Isaac to give him his inheritance, but he could not do it. His father Isaac gave him no opportunity to retrieve his inheritance. Isaac gave Esau no opportunity to repent. The father did not change his mind once he made his decision. No matter how many appeals Esau made to Isaac, his father disqualified him from the primary inheritance.
“repentance” here does not mean to turn from sin. Esau shed tears, which means he regretted his decision about rejecting his inheritance.
God didn't override Pharohs will. GOD knew what Pharoh would do before he ever sent Moses.
Before God hardened Pharohs heart Pharoh hardened his own heart.
But when Pharaoh saw that there was respite, he hardened his heart, and hearkened not unto them; as the Lord had said.
Exodus 8:15
JUDAS DIDNT START OUT BAD, HE FELL THROUGH TRANSGRESSION.
JUDAS CAST DEMONS OUT OF PEOPLE AND WAS FULL OF THE SPIRIT OF GOD. HOW COULD HE DO THAT IF HE WAS FULL OF THE DEVIL?
And if Satan cast out Satan, he is divided against himself; how shall then his kingdom stand?
Matthew 12:26 KJV
Judas was part of the ministry and apostleship
That he may take part of this ministry and apostleship, from which Judas by transgression fell....
Acts 1:25 KJV
JUDAS CHOSE TO ALLOW SATAN TO ENTER HIS HEART AND HE FELL
I SAY YOU NEED TO ASK YOUR PASTOR IF YOU COULD GO BACK THROUGH THE JUNIOR SUNDAY SCHOOL CLASS AGAIN BECAUSE UNDOUBTEDLY YOU WASNT PAYING ATTENTION THE FIRST TIME
I affirm that God gave mankind the freedom to choose how mankind wants to live his life as he sojourns here on earth, but the scriptures support the fact that mankind has no choice in his eternal inheritance, that is given, as a free gift, by God's choice in his sovereign grace, without the help of mankind.
Christ's was a sacrifice, to take away the sins of those that his Father gave him, and he said that he would not lose any of them. Christ's sacrifice was offered to God for God's acceptance, and not offered to mankind for their acceptance.
By God's foreknowledge, he saw that, because he gave mankind the freedom to choose out how he wanted to live his life, he saw that no one would seek him, no, not one, and all mankind would have gone to everlasting hell, unless he intervened in choosing an elect portion of them to be adopted as his children.
Mankind's adoption process is patterned after the example of God adopting his children, which is; God choose the child (child did not choose God). God had his Son to pay the legal fees, by his death on the cross, God choose to rebirth them to a spiritual life, and the final phase of the adoption is when God gathers his adopted children up and brings them home at the last day. Elect = Select by implication, favorite, chosen.
Can you see God's love and mercy in his actions, when he would have been a just God if he had let all mankind choose to go to hell? All of mankind's choices, by his fleshly nature, are wrong choices, in that he cannot choose spiritual things, because he cannot discern them, and thinks them to be foolishness.
Your reference to the word "hated" as meaning "preference" seems to be a contradiction to Acts 10:34, God is no respecter of persons. verse 35, But in every nation he that feareth him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted with him.
You have the misconception that God loves all mankind.
Rev 3:19, As many (not all) as I love, I rebuke and chasten. If God does not chasten someone, that would mean that he does not love them.
Psalms 73:1-5, Truly God is good to Israel (Jacob, surnamed Israel), even to such as are of a "clean heart" (a heart that has been changed from stoney to fleshy in the new birth). But as for me, my feet were almost gone; my steps had well nigh slipped. For I was envious at the foolish, when I saw the prosperity of the wicked, for there were no bands in their death; but their strength is firm. They are not in trouble as other men; neither are they "plagued" (devinly punished = chastened) like other men. verse 16-17, When I thought to know this, it was too painful for me; until I went into the sanctuary of God; then understood I their end.
You have the misconception that God loves all mankind.
Rev 3:19, As many (not all) as I love, I rebuke and chasten. If God does not chasten someone, that would mean that he does not love them.
Psalms 73:1-5, Truly God is good to Israel (Jacob, surnamed Israel), even to such as are of a "clean heart" (a heart that has been changed from stoney to fleshy in the new birth). But as for me, my feet were almost gone; my steps had well nigh slipped. For I was envious at the foolish, when I saw the prosperity of the wicked, for there were no bands in their death; but their strength is firm. They are not in trouble as other men; neither are they "plagued" (devinly punished = chastened) like other men. verse 16-17, When I thought to know this, it was too painful for me; until I went into the sanctuary of God; then understood I their end.
YES. God hated Esau in Rebecca's womb.
Romans 9: 9-13
9 For this is the word of promise: “At this time I will come, and Sarah will have a son.”
10 And not only that, but there was also Rebekah, when she had conceived twins by one man, our father Isaac;
11 for though the twins were not yet born and had not done anything good or bad, so that God’s purpose according to His choice would stand, not because of works but because of Him who calls,
12 it was said to her, “The older will serve the younger.”
13 Just as it is written: “Jacob I have loved, but Esau I have hated.”
I cant believe you actually teach that Jesus didn't die for everyone when the bible is so plain.
I'm sure while you preach this nonsense you believe God has chose you to go to heaven?
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
John 3:16-17 KJV
Notice the words: world, whosoever (not elect)
World might be saved
All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the Lord hath laid on him the iniquity of us all.
Isaiah 53:6 KJV
Notice the word: ALL (Not some)
He that spared not his own Son, but delivered him up for us all, how shall he not with him also freely give us all things?
Romans 8:32 KJV
Notice; for us all
For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour; Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.
1 Timothy 2:3-4 KJV
Notice: ALL MEN
And we have seen and do testify that the Father sent the Son to be the Saviour of the world. Whosoever shall confess that Jesus is the Son of God, God dwelleth in him, and he in God.
1 John 4:14-15 KJV
SAVIOUR OF THE WORLD....
WHOSOEVER SHALL CONFESS
Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: and every one that loveth him that begat loveth him also that is begotten of him. By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments.
1 John 5:1-2 KJV
Not elect but whosoever
And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely.
Revelation 22:17 KJV
CASE CLOSED!!!!!
Case not closed. All evidence must be submitted. First of all, we must consider who the "us", "all", and "whosoever", are.
I hope that you do realise that the scriptures are written as a mystery to some that do not keep sentences in context, and do not reference a Greek concordance.
Saved, according to Greek = "delivered"
There is a deliverance to the newborn babe in Christ when they mature enough to come unto a knowledge of the truth (the gospel), but it is not eternal deliverance, because they already born again with being in Christ, and Christ in them.
Isaiah 28:9-10, Whom shall he teach knowledge? and whom shall he make to understand doctrine? them that are weaned from the milk, and drawn from the breasts. For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept, line upon line, line upon line, here a little, and there a little.
World, according to Greek = Any aggregate or general collection of particles of any sort. Used of believers only. John 1:29, 3:16, 3:17, 6:33, 12:47, 1 Cor 4:9, 2 Cor 5:19.
The scriptures that you have quoted has reference to regenerated children of God. The natural man, before he has been regenerated, cannot discern the things of the Spirit, and thinks them to be foolishness.
I'm never amazed at anything people do. ALL have gone astray, NONE seek for God Romans 3
Because per Eph 1:11....In Him we also have obtained an inheritance, having been predestined according to the purpose of Him who works all things in accordance with the plan of His will,