Is Obedience Necessary for Salvation?

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Kidron said:
thank you for posting something to me that was not levels of confusion.

Maybe you could just post a question instead next time.


For example.......let say i stated that "the blood of Jesus that Saved you, keeps you saved"..

Then YOU post......" how can that be".
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No thanks! Be well!
 
Jackson123 said:
and Muslim misunderstood us they think only believe that Jesus god not believe His teaching
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They dont believe that Jesus is the SON of God......as the Islam cult teaches that "allah had no son".
They teach that Jesus is a Prophet, only.
 
Kidron said:
They dont believe that Jesus is the SON of God......as the Islam cult teaches that "allah had no son".
They teach that Jesus is a Prophet, only.
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I know but they also think as Christian you can rob the bank or murder and still go to heaven without repent because salvation by grace
Muslim believe salvation by work
Here the trick yes salvation by grace but trough faith on His teaching
Noah save by grace through faith his faith cause him work to build an arch
 
Psalm 19: 7

The law of the LORD is perfect, converting the soul: the testimony of the LORD is sure, making wise the simple.

Hmmm wondering how many agree with King David on this forum ???

I believe it is correct ...​
 
Jesus also said Stop sinning before something worse happens. and Be ye perfect as my father in heaven is perfect. That's why we are to take the narrow road not the WIDE road.
 
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LaVura said:
Jesus also said Stop sinning before something worse happens. and Be ye perfect as my father in heaven is perfect. That's why we are to take the narrow road not the WIDE road.
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He narrow road is faith in christ

the wide road is legalism and all its works
 
Jackson123 said:
So Noah take legalism way by work for thousands of hours to build an arch, Abraham take legalism way by walk thousand of hours move from Iran to israel
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Abraham believed god and was counted righteous before works
Noah was saved the moment he believed.
Their works were a byproduct of their faith. Not the men’s of it
you can’t work enough to get one sin forgiven my friend. You need to put your faith in Christ and take them off yourself
 
eternally-gratefull said:
Abraham believed god and was counted righteous before works
Noah was saved the moment he believed.
Their works were a byproduct of their faith. Not the men’s of it
you can’t work enough to get one sin forgiven my friend. You need to put your faith in Christ and take them off yourself
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So work is not product legalism
 
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Jackson123 said:
So Noah take legalism way by work for thousands of hours to build an arch, Abraham take legalism way by walk thousand of hours move from Iran to israel
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That should be "Iraq" (formerly Mesopotamia). Anyway, there was no legalism in what Noah and Abraham did. That was a result of their faith in God.

Legalism was when Judaizers claimed that salvation meant believing on Christ + the works of the Law (e.g. circumcision).
 
Nehemiah6 said:
That should be "Iraq" (formerly Mesopotamia). Anyway, there was no legalism in what Noah and Abraham did. That was a result of their faith in God.

Legalism was when Judaizers claimed that salvation meant believing on Christ + the works of the Law (e.g. circumcision).
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Thank for correction
And I believe Paul say salvation not by work in the context not by do jjudaizer law like what you say, animal sacrifice etc not because Christian work to Haley the poor than Paul say not by work to stop Christian work to helping the poor with love
Paul encourage work of love in 1 for 13
 
eternally-gratefull said:
it Is if your doing them like the pharisees did, to earn or maintain salvation.
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Matt5:6

And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.”

Pharisees is when we do pray or worship for show of in front of man not to maintain salvation
 
Jackson123 said:
Matt5:6

And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.”

Pharisees is when we do pray or worship for show of in front of man not to maintain salvation
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No, pharisee is when you obey God with the expectation that you will get to heaven because of your obedience.

Its why they hated Christ, Because christ told them their works would never help them get to heaven. They were lost, dead, and needed salvation.
 
eternally-gratefull said:
No, pharisee is when you obey God with the expectation that you will get to heaven because of your obedience.

Its why they hated Christ, Because christ told them their works would never help them get to heaven. They were lost, dead, and needed salvation.
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Would you give me a verse to support you opinion?
 
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