Is masturbation really a sin?

[Ceph]

I'm still working on myself to overcome this.

 

[Jordon]

I'm still working on myself to overcome this.

A wife would be better for you, with a healthy loving relationship
The truth about masterbation is when it's done by yourself it's always with lustful thoughts you will intensify the lust,

 

[Jordon]

I'm still working on myself to overcome this.

Personal vows to overcome lust can only be done by yourself for so long, when you say I will never lust again or I will never drink again or whatever , sin will will taunt you or satan,

You cant do it alone you need to call on Jesus,

Jesus will help you flee from lust , as he recognises sexual sin is something satan takes advantage of, it's why he says flee from sexual immorality, it's a lust of the flesh to, which means you have to stop watching pawn by Asking Jesus to overcome the flesh as self control is fruit of the spirit.

Hope you find a wife soon.

 

[Ceph]

Personal vows to overcome lust can only be done by yourself for so long, when you say I will never lust again or I will never drink again or whatever , sin will will taunt you or satan,

You cant do it alone you need to call on Jesus,

Jesus will help you flee from lust , as he recognises sexual sin is something satan takes advantage of, it's why he says flee from sexual immorality, it's a lust of the flesh to, which means you have to stop watching pawn by Asking Jesus to overcome the flesh as self control is fruit of the spirit.

Hope you find a wife soon.

I've been in what you advise me of, and I'm currently obtaining a wife.
If God wills, I will prevail. Thank you brother for your support.

 

[Jordon]

I've been in what you advise me of, and I'm currently obtaining a wife.
If God wills, I will prevail. Thank you brother for your support.

That's Great bro, well good luck hopefully you'll catch a diamond

 

[Ceph]

That's Great bro, well good luck hopefully you'll catch a diamond

I'm sure she is.

 

[Jordon]

I'm sure she is.

your quick of the mark lol, when did that come about.

 

[Ceph]

I found this in the law while doing some reading this morning; Leviticus 15—
“ ‘If any man has an emission of semen, then he shall bathe all his flesh in water, and be unclean until the evening. Every garment and every skin which the semen is on shall be washed with water, and be unclean until the evening. If a man lies with a woman and there is an emission of semen, they shall both bathe themselves in water, and be unclean until the evening.

“ ‘Thus you shall separate the children of Israel from their uncleanness, so they will not die in their uncleanness when they defile my tabernacle that is among them.’ ”

Hope this clears things up a bit for those reading this thread.

your quick of the mark lol, when did that come about.

I've just met a let a lady through online dating who seems pretty nice.. I haven't met her physically yet, but we're close now.
She's Christian and knows Gods mysteries too.

 

[Jordon]

I found this in the law while doing some reading this morning; Leviticus 15—
“ ‘If any man has an emission of semen, then he shall bathe all his flesh in water, and be unclean until the evening. Every garment and every skin which the semen is on shall be washed with water, and be unclean until the evening. If a man lies with a woman and there is an emission of semen, they shall both bathe themselves in water, and be unclean until the evening.

“ ‘Thus you shall separate the children of Israel from their uncleanness, so they will not die in their uncleanness when they defile my tabernacle that is among them.’ ”

Hope this clears things up a bit for those reading this thread.


I've just met a let a lady through online dating who seems pretty nice.. I haven't met her physically yet, but we're close now.
She's Christian and knows Gods mysteries too.

Nice one buddy, I think that's Gid saying semen is for intimate lovee making between man and wife.

It's also saying God recognises people need help from fleeing from sexual immorality m, and it's must definitely saying semens can cause diseases.

hey I hope your relationship goes well. Take care m

 

[Ceph]

Nice one buddy, I think that's Gid saying semen is for intimate lovee making between man and wife.

It's also saying God recognises people need help from fleeing from sexual immorality m, and it's must definitely saying semens can cause diseases.

hey I hope your relationship goes well. Take care m

You too bro

 

[tourist]

I've just met a let a lady through online dating who seems pretty nice.. I haven't met her physically yet, but we're close now.
She's Christian and knows Gods mysteries too.

I hope that this goes well for you. I met my wife online too on this very site.

 

[PAC-fit]

So, is masturbation a sin? The Bible does not directly answer this question, but there are biblical principles that apply to what we do with our bodies:

(2) “Everything that does not come from faith is sin” (Romans 14:23). If we are not fully convinced that an activity is honoring to God, it is a sin for us.

Oh yes the Bible does directly deal with it, but you have just drained the power from it's answer, providing a fence to straddle for those not ''convinced'' in the valley of decision. Though I'm sure you had no such intention.

For two separate people can ask the same question, is masturbation listed with all the other ''works of the flesh'', we know of course literally, no, spiritually, yes. YOUR'S! Problem is, those same two people have two distinct attitudes of the heart waiting to fulfill her treasured horizon - 1. A reason to act on what we don't have, or, 2. A reason to rest on what we do have, Your cited verse, glory to God!

For those still clinging to a 'list to justify', "The Jig is Up", you're willing subjects of deception with an unrepentant heart that wishes his citation had never made it's way to the thread. Repent, and turn to find the peace He provides that ALIGNS not ALIENATES itself from His holiness!!!

 

[HaveEL]

https://www.gotquestions.org/masturbation-sin.html
Masturbation—is it a sin according to the Bible?

The Bible does not mention masturbation, self-gratification, or “solo sex,” as it’s sometimes called. In its silence on the subject, the Bible does not say that masturbation is (or is not) a sin. Some people take the view that masturbation is a lustful act and is always wrong; others believe it involves a normal bodily function and has nothing to do with sin.

A passage frequently associated with masturbation is the story of Judah’s son Onan in Genesis 38. In fact, another word for masturbation is onanism, coined from the Genesis passage. Some interpret Genesis 38:9–10 to say that “spilling seed”—the squandering of semen—is a sin. However, God condemned Onan not for “spilling his seed” but for his rebellion. Onan refused to fulfill his duty to provide an heir for his deceased brother. Masturbation does not figure into the story at all; Onan’s punishment was the result of his failing to fulfill a family obligation.

A second proof text sometimes used to argue that masturbation is a sin is Matthew 5:27–30. Jesus speaks against having lustful thoughts and then says, “If your right hand causes you to stumble, cut it off and throw it away” (verse 30). While there is often a connection between lustful thoughts and masturbation, it is unlikely that Jesus was alluding to masturbation in this passage.

Though the Bible nowhere explicitly addresses masturbation, it does outline the purpose of sex. According to 1 Corinthians 7:2–5, “Each man should have sexual relations with his own wife, and each woman with her own husband. The husband should fulfill his marital duty to his wife, and likewise the wife to her husband. The wife does not have authority over her own body but yields it to her husband. In the same way, the husband does not have authority over his own body but yields it to his wife. Do not deprive each other except perhaps by mutual consent and for a time, so that you may devote yourselves to prayer. Then come together again so that Satan will not tempt you because of your lack of self-control.” Implicit in this passage are these truths:

– God’s plan for sex requires relationship, namely, that of a husband and wife (1 Corinthians 7:2). Masturbation is sex disconnected from relationship.

– Foundational to God’s plan for sex is giving one’s body to another (1 Corinthians 7:4). Masturbation is the keeping of one’s body to oneself.

– The solution to a time of deprivation is to “come together” (1 Corinthians 7:5). Masturbation is done alone, not together.

Paul taught that it was good to “stay unmarried” (1 Corinthians 7:8) due to the “crisis” facing the Corinthians (verse 26). At the same time, the apostle is careful to say that marriage is preferrable to struggling against constant sexual temptation: “If [the unmarried] cannot control themselves, they should marry, for it is better to marry than to burn with passion” (1 Corinthians 7:9). Marriage is not sinful (verse 28), but allowing passion to burn out of control will lead to sin. All believers have the responsibility to resist sexual immorality. For those not gifted with singleness, marital intimacy—not masturbation—is a good and proper deterrent to sexual sin (see 1 Corinthians 7:2).

Some see sexual fulfillment as a need akin to the need to eat or the need to scratch an itch. They point to nocturnal emissions as evidence that the body requires sexual release. Some go further and say this makes masturbation morally and ethically neutral—it is simply something the body needs and is no more sinful than urinating. However, the Bible never presents sexual fulfillment as a need, especially when the fulfillment relies on self-stimulation.

Regardless of the morality of the act of masturbation itself, certain actions often associated with masturbation are decidedly sinful: entertaining lustful thoughts, seeking inappropriate means of sexual arousal, and viewing pornography, for example. If these sins are curtailed, masturbation becomes less of a temptation. Many people struggle with guilt concerning masturbation when they would be better off repenting of the sins that lead them to masturbate.

So, is masturbation a sin? The Bible does not directly answer this question, but there are biblical principles that apply to what we do with our bodies:

(1) “So whether you eat or drink or whatever you do, do it all for the glory of God” (1 Corinthians 10:31). If we cannot give God glory for something, we should not do it.

(2) “Everything that does not come from faith is sin” (Romans 14:23). If we are not fully convinced that an activity is honoring to God, it is a sin for us.

(3) “I will not be mastered by anything” (1 Corinthians 6:12). Christians should avoid anything that might enslave them.

(4) “I discipline my body and keep it under control” (1 Corinthians 9:27, ESV). Self-discipline is difficult but necessary to “receive the prize” in the spiritual race we run (1 Corinthians 9:24).

(5) “The fruit of the Spirit is . . . self-control” (Galatians 5:22–23). Masturbation is almost always a sign of a lack of self-control.

(6) Do “not gratify the desires of the flesh. For the flesh desires what is contrary to the Spirit, and the Spirit what is contrary to the flesh. They are in conflict with each other, so that you are not to do whatever you want” (Galatians 5:16–17). We are called to self-denial, not self-gratification.

In light of these principles, it is doubtful that masturbation can be a God-honoring activity. If masturbation could be done with
• no lust in the heart
• no immoral thoughts
• no pornography
• no self-gratification of the flesh
• full assurance that it is good and right
• thanks given to God
then perhaps it would be allowable. But those qualifiers seem to negate the most common reasons people masturbate.

In the beginning, God intended a husband and wife to be “united” to each other, becoming “one flesh” and being unashamed in their nakedness with each other (Genesis 2:24–25). The very least we can say about masturbation is that it departs from God’s design for sexual expression and is thus not His best for us.

Onan's sin was birth control. Not masturbation.

 

[HaveEL]

Excuse the crude nature of this post, I just have really been struggling with this lately. Is it a sin? Where is the line drawn?

In order for something to be a sin in the eyes of God it would have to be against the law that God gave Moses on Mount Sinai. But there's no mention of it in the law of Moses at all. Some people say that masturbation falls under the broad sexual sins of Fornication. But in order for it to fall under the broad umbrella of Fornication it would still have to be mentioned in the law of Moses as a sin. We know that adultery is a sin, homosexuality is a sin, incest is a sin, Transgender and transvestic are sins etc. and therefore they all fall under the category of fornication. But masturbation is not among them.

 

[Mwestton]

Excuse the crude nature of this post, I just have really been struggling with this lately. Is it a sin? Where is the line drawn?

What are your thoughts when it happens? Are you thinking of the opposite sex in a pleasing flesh way? If so yes. That's lust. It's hard to stop. It takes time. The more you do it the more your mind craves the dopamines the harder it is to stop. Paul talks about controlling our vessel. I think sexual desires are the hardest to break. And I'm not being a hypocrite. I have pain where I don't want it cuz of testicular buildup. Yeah it's a sick thing to share. But I'd rather take some pain for the Lord than sin. I hope I don't get in trouble for telling this on this site.

 

[Ceph]

Nice one buddy, I think that's Gid saying semen is for intimate lovee making between man and wife.

It's also saying God recognises people need help from fleeing from sexual immorality m, and it's must definitely saying semens can cause diseases.

hey I hope your relationship goes well. Take care m

I hope that this goes well for you. I met my wife online too on this very site.

Never mind friends, it was a scam.

 

[Ceph]

Don't worry, don't grieve for me. The spirit sustains me, and lifts me up.

 

[Jordon]

Don't worry, don't grieve for me. The spirit sustains me, and lifts me up.

How's your new relationship with the lady you mentioned going

 

[Ceph]

How's your new relationship with the lady you mentioned going

I can't be too sure if they're a lady now...
But I do think it's the first time I've confronted a truly evil being. They know alot about scripture, but when they made their scheme apparent and I called them out, they used every tactic possible to distort & twist the truth to condemn me and make them innocent (even though they objectively threatened and abused what I entrusted to them to attack me, while I did nothing of the sort.)
It ultimately boiled down to them being unable to confess that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh, where the conversation ended.

They were a pure liar, denying the truth even when it was evident. I tried to get them to confess their sin and repent of their doings.
Thanks to God, the circumstances weren't painful to me. I'm just confounded that such a person even exists.

 

[Jordon]

I can't be too sure if they're a lady now...
But I do think it's the first time I've confronted a truly evil being. They know alot about scripture, but when they made their scheme apparent and I called them out, they used every tactic possible to distort & twist the truth to condemn me and make them innocent (even though they objectively threatened and abused what I entrusted to them to attack me, while I did nothing of the sort.)
It ultimately boiled down to them being unable to confess that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh, where the conversation ended.

They were a pure liar, denying the truth even when it was evident. I tried to get them to confess their sin and repent of their doings.
Thanks to God, the circumstances weren't painful to me. I'm just confounded that such a person even exists.

Oh sorry to hear that it sounded like you had got of to a good start and it hit it of with a female companion.

What changed because you said she was a Christian ?

Is there more than one person your chatting to ?

You said they are given you bad information, are you sure your chatting to the first woman you talked to ?

I would ask if you feal it's worth asking,