Is masturbation really a sin?

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I have heard it taught He won't take the problem if you love it and want to keep it.
blessings:)(y)
 
Edify said:
Jesus said to lust after her in your heart was adultery. One cannot get themselves excited without thinking of SOMEONE real or not real.
So, doing the deed in their mind, thinking of someone, is adultery.
What about the Spouse? Shouldn't that be okay? More often than not, they are thinking of someone else.
So, who HASN"T committed adultery? I have, just the way Jesus said.
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Are you male?

Men just have to wake up in the morning.
 
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shittim said:
I have heard it taught He won't take the problem if you love it and want to keep it.
blessings:)(y)
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Not only that, Brother, but I seem to remember that we are to to surrender our will unto His will in our lives. So Masturbation could be defined as no total surrender!

For a person to know to do right and does not do it, it is sin for him.
 
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Hey I have a good question!

Does Masturbation open the door to demonic spirits to enter?

Is there a spirit of Masturbation?
 
We are supposed to emulate the Lord and be like Him. To take on His characteristics. Who thinks the Lord ever does such an activity, lol?!

I guess it's like they say. If you gotta ask the question, you already know the answer!
 
Edward429451 said:
Not only that, Brother, but I seem to remember that we are to to surrender our will unto His will in our lives. So Masturbation could be defined as no total surrender!

For a person to know to do right and does not do it, it is sin for him.
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Our God is a God of love, who always has and will want the best for His creation.This seems to be lapsing into legalism and rigidity that doesn't reflect Galatians c5-v22&23.
blessings
 
presidente said:
What I object to is the circular reasoning... that it's a sin because it's a sin. Where does the Bible say that 'self-gratification' is sinful? A married individual could want to have sex with a partner to fulfill one's own sexual needs. I mean, even newly weds had no desire to fulfill and ONLY did it for the other party and kept saying, "I want to if you want to" and the other says, "I have no desire whatsoever but I am only willing if you want it" and they were both sincerely, they might never do anything.

Again, lust is desire... or coveting. Where is the line of reasoning that connects with the scripture like-- 'thou shalt not gratify thyself' or some scripture that indicates that masturbation is a sin. There are a couple of pages of forbidden sex acts in Leviticus. Why isn't masturbation mentioned?




Okay, one should not covet one's neighbor's wife, or look up on the virgin with coveteousness. But how does that prove your point?



Let's say a man has no hands and his wife is out of town with the doctor needs a sample, so he uses his neighbor's wife or daughter... through intercourse, and somehow collects a sample. Does the medical exam make it not adultery or fornication.... no. Why would a medical exam make masturbation okay? Or do you think adultery for medical purposes is okay?

Do you think men or boys, or women, did not do this before the advent of photography, porn magazines, or Internet porn?



If it is a sin, why would a medical exam make it okay?



How is this self-evident? Adultery for medical purposes is not okay. If masturbation is a sin, then masturbating for medical purposes would not be okay either, would it? The Bible says thou shalt not commit adultery. Where is the scripture that says thou shalt not masturbate?

Do you think it's sinful if done to alleviate prostate issues for unmarried men? What if it is done as a preventative measure? There are lots of 'medical' reasons.



Man has no hands. Man's wife is out of town. His neighbor's wife has no hands. She offers to collect a sample. He has never thought a lustful thought about her, and isn't attracted to her, but turns off the light, and manages to collect a sample. Does the lack of lust make the adultery okay... since it's medical?

How about this scenario-- the captain of a ship in the 1700s is sent on a mission from the crown to make a treaty with a tribe in a certain country. The chief, as a matter of custom, sends one of his wives to seal the deal, and as an act of hospitality, by having the captain copulate with her. To honor the captain, he chooses the oldest and heaviest wife. The captain has absolutely no lust for this woman, but blows out the candle and does the deed so as not to offend the chief and the accomplish his mission--- sinful or not?



'Everyone knows that' is not a Biblical reason, especially when people are either disagreeing with you or asking you to provide Biblical justification for your point.


Do you drink coffee from time to time? Is that because you lack self control? What about eating pork? If you eat that is it proof of a lack of self-control? Let's establish that something is forbidden first.
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Self-gratification is more of a gentle term for over Masturbation. Masturbation is sin because it is it is an act that was not intended to be done. And if it was not worn the only example we have is one person and God was mad at him. So The only Biblical example we have is not godly.

There are many actions done today that are not listed in the Bible which if one does so is still sin.

"Remember, it is sin to know what you ought to do and then not do it." James 4:17.

Again, the married couple must work out their own issues in Thier Bedroom. FYI, I have been married for 32 years so I know fully well many of those points you use.

The truth is many people put too much priority on sex. The flip side of the coin in contrast to the husband and wife who have a great intimate relationship, yet the husband commits adultery still enrages in self-gratification. There is no issue there. What message is he sanding to his wife who is answering the "need" yet he found it elsewhere with other women or alone?
The broken Prostate issue again I said medical issues speak for themselves yet those who want to justify a sin by using and excuse that is self-evident. The ole make it sound unreasonable.

I can't take you serious with the buffoonery of man with no hands. This is sounding like the excuses for Abortion in the case of rape or incest. 64 million of them done yet not even 1 percent because of rape or incest.

Now you want to take me to 1700's. ON a boat? No thank you.
 
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CS1 said:
No thank you.
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Self-gratification is more of a gentle term for over Masturbation. Masturbation is sin because it is it is an act that was not intended to be done. And if it was not a sin the only example we have is one person and God was mad at him. So The only Biblical example we have is not godly.

There are many actions done today that are not listed in the Bible which if one does so is still sin.

"Remember, it is sin to know what you ought to do and then not do it." James 4:17.

Again, the married couple must work out their own issues in Thier Bedroom. FYI, I have been married for 32 years so I know fully well many of those points you use.

The truth is many people put too much priority on sex. The flip side of the coin in contrast to the husband and wife who have a great intimate relationship, yet the husband commits adultery still enrages in self-gratification. There is no issue there? What message is he sanding to his wife who is answering the "need." Yet he found it elsewhere with other women or alone?

The broken Prostate issue again, I said; medical issues speak for themselves yet those who want to justify a sin by using and excuse that is self-evident. The ole make it sound unreasonable.

I can't take you serious with the buffoonery of man with no hands. This is sounding like the excuses for Abortion in the case of rape or incest. 64 million of them done yet not even 1 percent because of rape or incest.

Now you want to take me to 1700's. ON a boat?
 
Edward429451 said:
Hey I have a good question!

Does Masturbation open the door to demonic spirits to enter?

Is there a spirit of Masturbation?
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Lust is bad enough but if there is a spirit that makes one do this then is not man's fault? We create excuses and demons for what we have no intentions of stopping. How convenient.
 
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shittim said:
Our God is a God of love, who always has and will want the best for His creation.This seems to be lapsing into legalism and rigidity that doesn't reflect Galatians c5-v22&23.
blessings
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Legalism? You think I'm being mean by what I said?

It's not legalism and I'm not being mean. 1 Corinthians 6 explains it very well. Our Body belongs to the Lord, paid for by a high price. If we are to take on Jesus's characteristics, then we wouldn't be doing that with our body and is sin. It is written, be ye holy as I am holy. Jesus knows that we wont be perfect but if we are trying in our heart then He will see that. But if we come into agreement with the spirit of masturbation and agree to do it, then have we not committed fornication against the Lord Himself? Ephesians 5 says it real good.

Ephesians 5:3-5
3 Let there be no sexual immorality, impurity, or greed among you. Such sins have no place among God’s people.
4 Obscene stories, foolish talk, and coarse jokes—these are not for you. Instead, let there be thankfulness to God.
5 You can be sure that no immoral, impure, or greedy person will inherit the Kingdom of Christ and of God. For a greedy person is an idolater, worshiping the things of this world..../NLT

Masturbation is sexual immorality no matter how you look at it. So what I said was the truth and intended as a warning. People act like it's such a minor sin, but the scripture says, those wont be in heaven. That's dangerous Brother.
 
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CS1 said:
Lust is bad enough but if there is a spirit that makes one do this then is not man's fault? We create excuses and demons for what we have no intentions of stopping. How convenient.
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Well my understanding is that it begins with our own lust that we have in our heart. Doing the act invites demons in and the more the boy or man does it, the more of a stronghold the demon gets. Then he is addicted to it and must do it.

I've heard that, when a person masturbates that demons steal the satisfaction from it and then whoever did it feels guilty and condemned afterwards. Something I heard?

So perhaps one would feel guilty about it afterwards and feel convicted over it. Instead of that extended, Ahhh after one spends time with his wife. So why do they ask the questions in threads at times, that we see? They know or would not have started the thread I think? Looking for any justification they might find to make themselves feel better? I dunno.
 
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In our ongoing walk becoming conformed to the image of the Son we can easily try to do too much by our own hand in our zeal to grow please the Father, that is what legalism means to me. It isn't a "meanness" or "wrongness" to me and something we will leave behind before long.
blessings, friend:)(y)
 
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shittim said:
In our ongoing walk becoming conformed to the image of the Son we can easily try to do too much by our own hand in our zeal to grow please the Father, that is what legalism means to me. It isn't a "meanness" or "wrongness" to me and something we will leave behind before long.
blessings, friend:)(y)
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So, I shouldn't have said what I said? I went too far somehow?

But didn't I speak truth? Scripture? I don't understand what you are saying.
 
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Edward429451 said:
So, I shouldn't have said what I said? I went too far somehow?

But didn't I speak truth? Scripture? I don't understand what you are saying.
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Some Christians think it's mean or legalism if you're exhorting your brothers and sisters to live right in the power of God - but you're just obeying what God includes in the Bible, so don't feel bad or think you did something wrong - you didn't.

Hebrews 3:12 Take care, brothers and sisters, that there will not be in any one of you an evil, unbelieving heart that falls away from the living God. 13 But encourage one another every day, as long as it is still called “today,” so that none of you will be hardened by the deceitfulness of sin.


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