Is God nice?

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umzza said:
I don't understand why He allowed the world to be filled with so much bad and pain and evil.
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Seems to me you should get your mind out of the gutter and onto God.

When God saw that the human he created was choosing to allow the knowledge of evil in this world, God immediately made plans for us to live with good. The world is geared so that if the right actions are put in it abundance, joy, and all good will result. God has spent thousands of years giving law that tells us how to operate the world for good and abundance. God even gives us the plans for our future life to be good.

As proof, look to Hitler and to the Jewish race. Hitler guided his country into rebellion of God's ways and the Jews have obedience as part if their culture. It led Germans to starvation, and you can go to statistics to find the achievements of the Jews even in spite of being blinded by the Lord to Christ.
 
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umzza said:
I don't understand why He allowed the world to be filled with so much bad and pain and evil.
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I'd say because the idea of it is to bring believers to him. He says to trust him so if you believe and trust in those hard times then that will help strengthen your relationship with God bad things that happen are for the good. Everything that God does is for good even if we can't see it right away.
 
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GraceAndTruth said:
Never answer a fool according to his folly Proverbs 26:4
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Oh come on now that is uncalled for. She may not share your theological opinion still that dose not entitle you to answer her this way .
Blessings
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umzza said:
I don't understand why He allowed the world to be filled with so much bad and pain and evil.
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When God created the earth God made it so we have opposites in everything. For every up there is down, for good there is bad. He put Adam in a place on earth that didn't share that, the evil was in a place Adam was warned never to eat of the fruits of that place. Adam decided to do so, God knew all and if he also knew all he could be like God. So we live in a world, and inherit the knowledge of evil.

When this happened, God showed Adam how to live in the world that contains evil but be protected, a world that had all the good in it. Scripture is like a how to manual to operate our life so it follows the good to abundance. Only we shouldn't read that word abundance to mean in money only as part of the manual we are given for living is to not love money.
 
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It doesn't make sense though why God who knows the future would make a world that he knows will be bad. I don't see proof that the God of the Bible exists. The Bible is not clear and is confusing. Christians don't act like they really believe what they are saying. Between the Bible not making sense and Christians not acting like they really believe what they say about God, I don't see a lot where I want to be a Christian. It just doesn't make sense why God allowed the world to exist as it does if he is as caring as people say. Why is there eternal pain for people who God created and knew how their lives would go?
 
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umzza said:
It doesn't make sense though why God who knows the future would make a world that he knows will be bad. I don't see proof that the God of the Bible exists. The Bible is not clear and is confusing. Christians don't act like they really believe what they are saying. Between the Bible not making sense and Christians not acting like they really believe what they say about God, I don't see a lot where I want to be a Christian. It just doesn't make sense why God allowed the world to exist as it does if he is as caring as people say. Why is there eternal pain for people who God created and knew how their lives would go?
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When God created the world, he knew people would do bad things... including YOU.

Yet he made the world anyway.

He could have chosen NOT to make this world... the world where YOU eventually showed up and did bad things.

Why he chose to let YOU exist... I dunno.

He must like you.

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umzza said:
It doesn't make sense though why God who knows the future would make a world that he knows will be bad. I don't see proof that the God of the Bible exists. The Bible is not clear and is confusing. Christians don't act like they really believe what they are saying. Between the Bible not making sense and Christians not acting like they really believe what they say about God, I don't see a lot where I want to be a Christian. It just doesn't make sense why God allowed the world to exist as it does if he is as caring as people say. Why is there eternal pain for people who God created and knew how their lives would go?
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Do you think you could direct the making of a world that is better than ours? One where there is no down, only up. No evil only good. No cold only hot--or how would you work that have only moderate?

Scripture is like an instruction manual on how to manage in this world so only good happens. The first five books sets out how the earth was made and the principles we are to live by. The people who act out those principles lived 6,000 years ago and culture has changed so it got hard to understand how they thought and reacted. God had prepared for this, God had scrolls hidden so we would find them now and they would act as a bridge of understanding between us in 2,000AD and 6,000BC. Scholars are digging through this information and it is gradually coming through to us peons.

You can follow the bible as a manual for how to live and make all life to the good, even living with the evil that our actions has brought on. We are told to discipline our minds so we monitor our thoughts and it gives the filter we are to use in Phil. 4:8. We are told not to waste any time thinking of other's behavior, that is only for the Lord to do. No one can demoralize us or make us sad because God is above everyone and God has put His stamp of approval on us, we have only to go to Him. Even if we must live with an ill body, the Lord can fill us with His love. There is even pain management in this, as biofeedback training teaches.
 
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It simply can't be that there is no God. Twice in my life I have been made aware of the angels that God sends for us and aware of the work for me they were doing.

I saw the Grand Canyon, something no man could engineer the building of. I spent seven years as a commercial fisherwoman and watched the order and majesty of the ocean. I've made a study of the Jewish nation, God's chosen people. They prove God's ways as good ways, even though God blinded them to Christ.
 
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I take His existence and His Holiness very seriously. So because I put a post up of the parting of the Red Sea's actual events, I am foolish? Yet, you approve of putting up a quite hilarious post of someone fishing during this miraculous moment. Reaches out my hand and says, Hi, nice to meet you. My name is Charli. I think we might be Sisters. I think we have the same Dad. :)
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I have a feeling she meant to reply to the post below yours and hit the wrong reply button by mistake.
 
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zeroturbulence said:
I have a feeling she meant to reply to the post below yours and hit the wrong reply button by mistake.
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That makes sense.. :) but the other one was funny. I had to pay it forward, elsewhere. My stepfather would so be that one fishing, lol.
 
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umzza said:
It doesn't make sense though why God who knows the future would make a world that he knows will be bad. I don't see proof that the God of the Bible exists. The Bible is not clear and is confusing. Christians don't act like they really believe what they are saying. Between the Bible not making sense and Christians not acting like they really believe what they say about God, I don't see a lot where I want to be a Christian. It just doesn't make sense why God allowed the world to exist as it does if he is as caring as people say. Why is there eternal pain for people who God created and knew how their lives would go?
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While I don't think it wise to even suggest we can understand His ways, I think it to be the most prudent choice is to believe in Him.

First, you do not know all the Christians, so making that call seems a bit broadly brushed.

I will agree, however, that choosing God based only on our human behavior is not such a good idea. Our choices often point to satan and our own devilish ways. If we really look at humans capacities, though, with Him leading the way, wow, that has God all the way.

Creation, our existence and the rest of nature, is intelligent by design. Looking at this Christian, myself, I know the difference He has made inside. If you could see the mess I was, not believing, to the less messy I am because I believe in Him, you'd have visual proof. You taste Him for yourself and see that He is good.

So you see...not believing in the God of the bible and or the one living in my heart, the one now helping me breathe the breath of His, makes zero, not one iota, sense to me. I don't believe because I have to but because I get to. You have the same choice. I highly recommend you pick the right One, He is the only way, the truth and the life, nobody gets to God without Him.

He is available to your knowing, as well, but you must stop the pondering on His existence and start pondering on His ways. Dig in, there is plenty to fill your heart and mind's belly.
 
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No, God isn't what one would describe as nice. The word "nice" suggests agreeableness and a sort of personality he surely would not exhibit as he is perfect and so has the right to judge and condemn us.
He is, at times, kind, but he has absolutely no obligation to be - he just is . However this doesn't mean he refrains from being just in favour of forgiveness after being offered it all your life.
God allows suffering because he allows free will and greater good. Doing this doesn't make him mean or cruel, because he still loves us and is trying to show us all the way to heaven.
 
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Blik said:
When God created the earth God made it so we have opposites in everything. For every up there is down, for good there is bad. He put Adam in a place on earth that didn't share that, the evil was in a place Adam was warned never to eat of the fruits of that place. Adam decided to do so, God knew all and if he also knew all he could be like God. So we live in a world, and inherit the knowledge of evil.

When this happened, God showed Adam how to live in the world that contains evil but be protected, a world that had all the good in it. Scripture is like a how to manual to operate our life so it follows the good to abundance. Only we shouldn't read that word abundance to mean in money only as part of the manual we are given for living is to not love money.
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Genesis 3 speaks of “the knowledge of good and evil”, not just knowledge of evil. Your position is indefensible.
 
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umzza said:
I don't understand why He allowed the world to be filled with so much bad and pain and evil.
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To answer your question. God made man, gave man dominion and authority over the earth and man allowed evil in the world.
 
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umzza said:
But what if God isn’t real? How do I know?
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About 10 years ago, I earnestly asked God if He was real driving my way home from work. About 2-4 weeks later, I got my answer.

Lol funny lot we are, asking a being that we don't know is real a question.

You just ask, doesn't have to be sanctimonious, no candle lighting or animal sacrificing or whatever, just an earnest heart.
 
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If there wasn’t bad in the world this would be called heaven. Life is a test and God is ultimately in control.
 
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umzza said:
I don't understand why He allowed the world to be filled with so much bad and pain and evil.
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There is NO person more loving and good than God, HE IS LOVE! 1John 4v8,16.

The world/heavenlies is filled with evil and pain because the free will beings in it, angels and humans, choose that line of thought and behaviour! Isaiah 53v6

Simples!
 
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Dino246 said:
Genesis 3 speaks of “the knowledge of good and evil”, not just knowledge of evil. Your position is indefensible.
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I assumed that no one was stupid enough not to know the knowledge of good was there, it was all knowledge Adam and Eve received.

If I am wrong, say so. Don't accuse me of taking a position.
 
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